Originally Posted by myrt1987
You think if you guys met on the street youd be cordial or just continue the feud? lol
Or maybe settle it once and for all with a good ol' fashioned dance-off...
Nah we just disagree, he thinks my facts are opinions, or anybody who claims to be getting EPA numbers with their impreza is lying or driving in a zero gravity environment (flat land, actually). He also thinks that because the EPA rating is 36mpg, we should all expect much higher than that, because, hey, isn't that a reasonable expectation if his corolla does better than EPA ratings and two standard deviations and....
And I continually point out his "facts" are really just his opinions.
A neutral observer can read the evidence, as presented, and decide. No fisticuffs are needed in this case.
As to the facts? It is a fact that some people are getting the EPA numbers or better driving a CVT impreza at the highway speeds the EPA uses for their estimates.
It is also a fact that some drivers do not get these numbers.
The reasons why seem obvious when you look into the 'style' of driving, the speed they are driving it, and the distances they are driving it.
Well, among those factors the 'style' is hard to quantify, of course.
But there is pretty good evidence on the forum, including at least one case of a father/son who have very different mpg outcomes driving the same exact car around town...
But if how the car is driven affects mpg's, that would not make the Impreza an outlier. All cars have varying mpg's depending much upon how they are driven. This is not blaming the victim, it is factual.
I have already conceded that the Impreza is unlikely to exceed the EPA numbers much, even with hypermiling. It is easy and possible to get crappy mpgs if you never let it warm up, or drive it too fast, or aggressively.
By the way, it is also a fact that Consumer Reports recommends the car for its excellent mpg's for an AWD car. Not too shabby, should keep his trade in value high when he goes to pick up his next corolla.
PS: And like him, I can compare my Impreza to my previous FWD 2008 Hyundai Elantra, also a 5 speed. On the same exact drive, same speeds, and same driver (me) that car exceeded its EPA rating by about 1-2mpg (so it got 3.5mpg better than my Impreza for the same exact drive). The Impreza only meets the EPA combined number. Don't expect me to sharpen my pitchfork for a protest march on the EPA/SOA.