ok, that's nice djderickd, but i already have them and there's no point in you telling me this, i'd be able to decide if it's worth it AFTER i use them, and i asked things relating to how to use them, not a review of the product. i see alot of this on the board, ppl ask questions and others discourage them by posting this kind of thing in the thread. plus, anyone who complains about having to wash the car before you do something like this doesn't really inspire me to heed the warning.
and blaznasn, the reason i ask is the polish and wax i don't remember saying how much to use, the cleaner said to apply liberal amounts but that's quite vague. does that mean the whole bottle? half? what?