I raced one of those stage 2s in my EVO. It wasn't really a planned race so I didn't get any room on the launch. SHE started about a half-full car infront of me then I got on it. We were neck and neck the whole way but at the top of every gear I would gain on her a little. They are freaking fast for a N/A and they are so comfy. And you can drift. Drew F the suby I want to see you drift that biatch.