I agree with what you said, but I can't say personally I haven't ran them on my car. Also, I think the only way I would run these is if I go back to running a more negative camber in the rear, as my front end is toed in to compensate for the pull to either side. I'm glad you posted all the information and didn't make a smart ass remark about the thread I has posted. And with saying that, with the career or experience you have behind you, what tires would you recommend for us enthusiasts that like to run a really negative camber. I know another member had posted about the neo gens, any other input that you may have will be appreciated.