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Old 01-05-2007, 08:37 PM   #1
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Default Incredibly simple question.

I have been sitting here searching for the last hour, but I cannot find an answer.

How do I data log my car?

I just installed an AP Stg 1. 91 oct. base map tonight and went for a drive. I think I may be getting some knock. I heard it while accelerating so I let off and came straight home.

So far I have downloaded Tari Racing software and started to read through the manual, but it just sounds like another language at this point.

How do I data log my car using TARI so that I can see if I am detonating?

Thank you!!!

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Old 01-05-2007, 09:35 PM   #2
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Old 01-05-2007, 09:50 PM   #3
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Maybe I am missing something, but I do not see anything that relates to how to use Tari on that page.

I am on the Tari forums and reading, but there isn't a whole lot of info on using it. More just how to interpret the logs.

I checked the FAQ's. I have searched for a long time tonight.
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Old 01-05-2007, 09:52 PM   #4
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from the FAQ:

What are some helpful tools to use if I want to monitor my engine’s functions? Some engine management solutions come bundled with engine monitoring software, which is an excellent way to see hard data on your tuning results. If this software does not come bundled with your engine management, consider one of the following solutions:
Simple data logger
TARI DL1 (Diagnostics Level 1) Data Logger
DeltaDash
LogMapper
MPS UTECLogger
Auto-Logger
Scanmaster 3
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:06 PM   #5
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Yes, I understand that I am supposed to use TARI. My question is HOW do I use TARI?

I appreciate you helping me, I really do, I just don't see how that explains how to use TARI.

BTW- I just went to radio shack and picked up a USB to serial cable, but I realized that the serial end looks nothing like the OBD port below my steering wheel.

Did I get the wrong cable? It says it is an RS-232...
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:21 PM   #6
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You use the usb-to-serial adapter to convert the AP cable to usb. You datalog by plugging the AP cable into the OBD-2 port and the usb-serial adapter into your laptop.

When properly connected to your car, in the left side column in ecuExplorer, your ecu ID should appear where it says "ECU (Disconnected)" when you are not connected to your car (car has to be either running or iginition in the "ON" position for you to be connected). Click on that and then go to "realtime data view". Select the items you wish to datalog.

Then to actually perform the datalogging, the best way is to select the rear defog switch under the bottom set of data items. This way to start and end a log, all you have to do is push your rear defog button (You may only have to select the option when you right click on the data items that says "trigger logging on Defog switch" in the latest version). Also select a logging directory for your files to be saved in by right clicking over the data items.

Next go drive and experiment around. Finding the IAM and engine load values can also be done, but thats another story.
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Old 01-05-2007, 10:24 PM   #7
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errr

you need an OBDII cord. they sell them with both serial and USB ends, depending on which you need.

http://www.tactrix.com/


they can be found there. i never used that particular SW, but i've used cobb's and it was INCREDIBLY simple. like load the SW, plug you laptop into your OBDII, hit connect to ECU, select the parameters you wish to log, and hit Go.
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Old 01-05-2007, 11:14 PM   #8
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Ok so I have a question then.

Then AP cable has the OBDII adapter end that goes to a serial end. I then went out and bought a Serial to USB adapter cord like I was told i needed to do. The Serial Adapter end will plug into the Serial end of the AP cord, and then the USB will plug into my lap top.

Will this work?

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yes that looks correct to me!
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Old 01-05-2007, 11:21 PM   #10
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boundy3:

Thank you so much for that post. You have no idea how much you helped me. I think I understand most of it. The parts I don't understand, I am sure I will once I am connected and see everything working on the lap top.

Is that the correct way to connect to my lap top?

Thank you again!
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Old 01-05-2007, 11:21 PM   #11
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Excellent, thank you hondaeater69!

You guys helped out so much tonight.

Thank you!
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Old 01-06-2007, 12:05 AM   #12
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Ooook, so here is the problem now.

TARI says I am not connected when I open it. Everything is connected properly...Ignition is on, USB is in..Serial cables are connected.

Something to note:

When I plug the USB cable into my lap top, it asks me to find the software for it...When I say search and install, it comes up with "cannot find software and install"...

I think this has something to do with it but I have no idea what to do because the cable didn't come with any additional material or software. The accessport software is installed on my comp, but when I try to connect to that, it says something about a COM error.

THis might have something to do with it as well.

Any ideas?

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Old 01-06-2007, 01:23 AM   #13
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Forget that last message. I just got home from logging some runs.

Got everything to work perfectly fine.

However, I think I have bad news. I believe I am detonating pretty badly. I am going to post a few of my logs.
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Old 01-06-2007, 10:57 AM   #14
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Do you have any other mods besides the AP? Like a manual boost controller?
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Old 01-06-2007, 03:18 PM   #15
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Nope, and that is why I am amazed and bummed at the same time.

If I find out how to post a log, I will post a few today to be sure.
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