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Old 06-26-2007, 01:59 PM   #1
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2008 Impreza: Facts, not opinions.
By: Ryan Douthit, Subiesport Magazine

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At last we had a chance to test drive the 2008 Subaru Impreza. What do we think of it? Unfortunately, you’ll have to wait until August for our driving impression, which will be available at Subiesport.com. The in-depth review will appear in an upcoming print edition of the magazine. In the meanwhile, we have some solid facts we wanted to share with you about this new car.

First, the automatic transmission is new. Out with the 4EAT, in with the ACT-4 with Sportshift. When asked, Subaru claimed the new transmission was lighter than the 5EAT, performed better than the 4EAT and was a cost effective solution. For manual-tranny fans, the 5MT has received some additional improvements, though these are evolutionary design changes.

The motor, too, is new to the Impreza. Basically it’s a Subaru Legacy GT 2.5 flat-4 with a Mitsubishi TD04 turbo. According to Subaru engineers any current LGT turbo should fit the plumbing no problem. VF40 upgrade anyone?

Moving to the back, there are even more fresh changes. The rear suspension is now a sophisticated double-wishbone configuration. This opens up trunk space and, “enhances driving dynamics.” For buyers looking to immediately upgrade to coilovers, the market will need time to respond to this new design. The 2007 coilovers simply will not fit.

In addition to a new suspension setup, the car is also riding on a longer wheelbase. This adds greater legroom for both front and backseat occupants.

Gone is the rear limited-slip differential in the WRX. Instead Subaru chose to focus on the Vehicle Dynamics Control (VDC), standard on the WRX, and an option on the non-turbo 2.5i. Again, we asked the Subaru engineers if the 2007 differentials will work in the new chassis, and they said it should be an easy installation, if someone was so inclined.

The stereo is trick. The optional navigation system will play DVDs (when the handbrake is engaged, of course), or your choice of video when plugged into the RCA jacks located in the elbow rest. Otherwise, it is very similar to the navigation system previously available in the 2007 Tribeca and other upscale Subaru models.

There is a whole laundry list of new features designed to create a more enjoyable driving experience. Pricing has not been officially announced, but it was suggested that pricing will be similar to the outgoing 2007 models. The 2008’s will be available near the end of August.
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:03 PM   #2
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good stuff... except for maybe the focus on vdc... I thought that wasn't available on 5mt subarus. I guess either I was wrong or the 5mt will have open diffs.
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:08 PM   #3
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So the rear diff is open now? Why would they do that?
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:12 PM   #4
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So the rear diff is open now? Why would they do that?
haha, so the owners of the new corrola S, oops I mean WRX don't get over confident and street race.

At least they are using a double wishbone suspension, if anybody has ever been behind the wheel of a vehicle using all wheel idwbs it handles like it's on rails.
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Old 06-26-2007, 03:41 PM   #5
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So the rear diff is open now? Why would they do that?
Even if it is, trust me, you won't notice. This last winter there was no difference between how my RS (open rear diff) and the WRX drove on snow/ice. And they both are identical when I practice rallying in the dirt.
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Old 06-26-2007, 04:10 PM   #6
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Even if it is, trust me, you won't notice. This last winter there was no difference between how my RS (open rear diff) and the WRX drove on snow/ice. And they both are identical when I practice rallying in the dirt.
I tend to agree. Tires > LSD on snow and ice. I'm anxious to see the car in person, as I'm in the minority thinking that the pictures look to be an improvement in terms of styling.
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:10 PM   #7
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good stuff... except for maybe the focus on vdc... I thought that wasn't available on 5mt subarus. I guess either I was wrong or the 5mt will have open diffs.
I asked about VDC on the 5MT and the reply was "Yes, the 5-speed also has VDC." Since I didn't think that was possible, I apparently need to do more reading on this.

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Old 06-26-2007, 05:06 PM   #8
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I asked about VDC on the 5MT and the reply was "Yes, the 5-speed also has VDC." Since I didn't think that was possible, I apparently need to do more reading on this.

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Is there an off switch for the VDC?
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Old 06-26-2007, 05:11 PM   #9
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Is there an off switch for the VDC?
Yes, there is an "off" switch.
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Old 06-26-2007, 05:15 PM   #10
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Yes, there is an "off" switch.

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Old 08-11-2007, 05:43 PM   #11
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good stuff... except for maybe the focus on vdc... I thought that wasn't available on 5mt subarus. I guess either I was wrong or the 5mt will have open diffs.
Since VDC utilizes the brakes and throttle to work, it is my understanding VDC only uses the VTD system to address the clutch pack it should work on 5mt and 6mt no problem.
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Everyone is complaining about the smaller intercooler, but if you remember that when the 06's came out, they too had a different size IC than what the 02-05 had. Remember. Just because it is more like a square rather than a rectangle does not mean the surface area is smaller. BTW the plastic intake manifold is lighter, no heat soak and has a smoother interior than what the aluminum had. So why is this such a big deal. The tranny in the 08 is designed to help the tranny last. Boost settings are set lower in 1-3 to help. The gears have the same ratios as the LGT, and the final drive is 3.90 rather than 3.70. I really think that this will be a nicer WRX. Plus it more low key. Yea its not as aggressive as previous models, but it dosent scream look at me either a.k.a. sleeper. Most have not warmed up to the look yet, but if you ask most people (non WRX community) about how previous models look 02-07 they will tell you that there not that good looking of cars. Kind of like only a mother could love
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:06 PM   #13
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Finally a cool stereo!
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:04 AM   #14
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:15 PM   #15
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ricochet,
by what you said about the turbo upgrading, does that mean we will be limited to what we can upgrade because of space?
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:17 PM   #16
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by what you said about the turbo upgrading, does that mean we will be limited to what we can upgrade because of space?
So long as it fits in the Legacy, it should fit on the new Impreza. Of course, that's just based on information, and not based on real-world application. Your mileage may vary.
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Old 06-26-2007, 02:30 PM   #17
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I think the addition of VDC is going to be good for this car, hopefully the crash rates will decrease, thus lowering the insurance costs for the 08 model. Although I am not sure how well the VDC system will work without the LSD in the rear. My mom has a 3.0R wagon with VDC, I am really impressed how that thing handles on the occasional freeway on ramp.
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I think the addition of VDC is going to be good for this car, hopefully the crash rates will decrease, thus lowering the insurance costs for the 08 model. Although I am not sure how well the VDC system will work without the LSD in the rear. My mom has a 3.0R wagon with VDC, I am really impressed how that thing handles on the occasional freeway on ramp.
The ONLY vehicle with VDC, that comes with a rear Limited slip differential is the Legacy GT Spec-B. In fact that is the only vehicle till date, that came with a stick-shift and VDC.

All other vehicles with VDC, automatically have the rear LSD deleted. This includes the Outback VDC and all other models equipped with VDC, including your mom's 3.0R wagon, which comes with an open rear diff.
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The ONLY vehicle with VDC, that comes with a rear Limited slip differential is the Legacy GT Spec-B. In fact that is the only vehicle till date, that came with a stick-shift and VDC.

All other vehicles with VDC, automatically have the rear LSD deleted. This includes the Outback VDC and all other models equipped with VDC, including your mom's 3.0R wagon, which comes with an open rear diff.
That might be true for US built models, but i have a Japan built 2006 Subaru Outback with 4EAT tranny and VDC and rear LSD.
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That might be true for US built models, but i have a Japan built 2006 Subaru Outback with 4EAT tranny and VDC and rear LSD.
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I just moved half of my belongings to my new house in my little 03 TS. Any thoughts or numbers on the interior cargo space in this hatch version? Bigger wheelbase and more rear legroom should equal quite a bit more cargo capacity, right?
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I just moved half of my belongings to my new house in my little 03 TS. Any thoughts or numbers on the interior cargo space in this hatch version? Bigger wheelbase and more rear legroom should equal quite a bit more cargo capacity, right?
umm maybe you should buy a truck.
Man subaru has gone to crap, hope they straighten out in the next few years,friggin toyota.
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umm maybe you should buy a truck.
The point is that my TS has a lot of room inside. Just curious about the capacity of the new car. If I wanted a truck, I wouldn't be here.
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Ryan,

When I talked to a SPT rep at the Wicked Big Meet he said the new turbo is Mitsubishi but has never been used before. The TD04 does not point upward like the VF40 or VF46.

Did they say TD04?
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Ryan,

When I talked to a SPT rep at the Wicked Big Meet he said the new turbo is Mitsubishi but has never been used before. The TD04 does not point upward like the VF40 or VF46.

Did they say TD04?
Yes, I was told, specifically, the Mitsubishi TD04 with a max boost of 11.9psi. That was as of last Thursday.

All of the facts in this report are either from the press kit or answers to specific questions from Subaru engineers or product reps.
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