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Old 01-04-2002, 07:19 PM   #1
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there are more than a couple people who have mentioned a raw fuel smell in their cars in various sections of the board. so far, no service department has been able to duplicate this problem. as it has been a recently starting, but now regularly occuring problem for my WRX, i am attempting to gather information about who else has the problem.

i see any type of fuel leak as a potentially dangerous problem and want to get to the bottom of it.

please log any occurances of a raw fuel smell (i.e. gasoline smell) in the passenger cabin or engine compartment that cannot be attributed to gasoline on your person/clothing/shoes/etc.

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date of manufacture (Your build date will be on an aluminum rectangular plate at the bottom right corner of the driver's door frame, it will give you the month/year.... MM/YY)
any mods to your car (although i don't see this as a cause. the problem has occured in both highly mod'ed and unmod'ed cars.)
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Old 01-04-2002, 07:28 PM   #2
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date of manufacture: 03/01

location of origin: somewhere on the passenger side of the engine, in front of and below the intercooler and manifold. currently no visible residue or fuel.

mods: catback exhaust, intake silencer removal, boost gauge, oil temp gauge.

known triggers: occurs when car is cold, colder than 32 degrees. for example, when parked outside (not in home garage for more than an hour) in colder than 32 degree temps. RECIRCULATE is off. within a few moments smell begins to build in cabin. open window, smell dissipates. builts when car is not moving, but still noticable when moving. sometime later (after 20 minutes-half an hour) smell ceases.
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Old 12-02-2009, 11:49 PM   #3
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date of manufacture: 03/01

location of origin: somewhere on the passenger side of the engine, in front of and below the intercooler and manifold. currently no visible residue or fuel.

mods: catback exhaust, intake silencer removal, boost gauge, oil temp gauge.

known triggers: occurs when car is cold, colder than 32 degrees. for example, when parked outside (not in home garage for more than an hour) in colder than 32 degree temps. RECIRCULATE is off. within a few moments smell begins to build in cabin. open window, smell dissipates. builts when car is not moving, but still noticable when moving. sometime later (after 20 minutes-half an hour) smell ceases.
I now get the SAME EXACT THING. in an 02 wrx. only when its cold out though.
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Old 02-28-2010, 12:42 PM   #4
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date of manufacture: 03/01

location of origin: somewhere on the passenger side of the engine, in front of and below the intercooler and manifold. currently no visible residue or fuel.

mods: catback exhaust, intake silencer removal, boost gauge, oil temp gauge.

known triggers: occurs when car is cold, colder than 32 degrees. for example, when parked outside (not in home garage for more than an hour) in colder than 32 degree temps. RECIRCULATE is off. within a few moments smell begins to build in cabin. open window, smell dissipates. builts when car is not moving, but still noticable when moving. sometime later (after 20 minutes-half an hour) smell ceases.

I have the exact same problem. mods are 3inch cattless dp, catback, pulley and cobb stage 2

sub Mech says its the passenger side fuel line.
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Old 01-05-2002, 03:31 PM   #5
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Hey fluffybunny,
i havent had a whole lotta luck posting in here about this, but ill post to give this a bump:

causes: cold, and more cold. Originally mine did it all the time, after a trip to the dealer it now only does it when the motor's cold. After a 30 min trip to or from work, it doesnt produce the smell anymore. The dealer tightened a PCV hose i pointed out was leaking. The pcv hose was attached to the intake in the front of the motor.

heres some pics:




The yellow circle was the pcv hose that was leaking on mine.

My build date was also 03/01
My only mod is a cat-back exhaust.

The smell is still there after a trip to the dealer, I'm waiting for others on the midwest board to take thiers to a dealer and see if somone else can find the problem.

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Old 01-05-2002, 08:53 PM   #6
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Default I have it too!

Seems to be when cold weather is in... below freezing.... car sitting outside (non-garaged) Does not seem to matter if engine is cold or warmed up.

Build Date: 03/01

Cat-back exhaust, and a little more.... not relevant here....

Fuel smell seems to come from the areas in the pics above....

If you take a mini-mag lite, and stick it in the "V" opening of the manifold on the passenger side, and look as far down towards the block, I have seen fuel puddle there. (in a crevice on the block)

Can not tell where the leak is actually coming from.

I have to turn of the "fresh Air" and heater, then open windows to breathe....

Sometimes this happens as often as a dozen times a day (full day of driving around.. shopping etc....)

I have brought my car to the dealer 4 times for this issue. They can not duplicate the scent, nor can SOA tell them anything special except that I shouldn't use any "fuel additives"
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Old 01-06-2002, 09:39 PM   #7
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Old 01-09-2002, 08:58 PM   #8
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Old 01-09-2002, 09:32 PM   #9
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making this a sticky.... no need to bump any longer...

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Old 01-10-2002, 12:44 AM   #10
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hey subiegal?
where was this moved to? (i couldnt find it?)

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Old 01-10-2002, 12:45 AM   #11
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nevermind, im a moron....
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Old 01-11-2002, 12:11 PM   #12
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just had this happen the other day for the first time, so i don't really know yet what the causes/triggers are.

no mods to the car yet.

built 6/01

sorry - not very helpful, i know

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Old 01-14-2002, 02:15 AM   #13
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don't feel bad, it is helpful...keep the info coming.
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Old 01-19-2002, 03:39 PM   #14
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Thought I smelled gas in the cabin yesterday. Windchill was -35 degrees Celsius. Not sure what that is in F. I also keep my car out in the elements.
Edit: -35 C is -31 F
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Old 01-19-2002, 04:25 PM   #15
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well i'm fed up with the problem yet again, made another appointment to bring it in thursday, will post results if they find anything wrong this time.
i've tried a different contact at my same dealership, this service manager apparently listened to everything i had to say, i never got the same impression with the other guy. i explained what he needed to do to replicate the problem, basically, let it sit all night, start it up cold, sit in it and turn on the air full blast. i garunteed he would be nautios in minutes.

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Old 01-19-2002, 05:12 PM   #16
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I've been trying to troubleshoot a similar problem. At first I thought it was a leak in the uppipe, however, I'm certain I don't have an exhaust leak. I'm going to try putting zip-ties on everything. Yea, it sounds silly, I know.

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Old 01-19-2002, 11:52 PM   #17
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Well, guess what... it got a little cold.. my car sat outside again... started it... and VOILA! Gas smell... all over... just when I thought it was gone....

And I checked again, and there is definitely liquid fuel puddling in that area "crevice" of the engine block that you see when you look all the way down in that V shape of the manifold......

This sucks......

I guess I'll go to the dealer again... this time a diff. one... this will be the 5th time.
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Old 01-20-2002, 12:10 AM   #18
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I also have the gasoline smell in the cabin of my 98 Legacy GT sedan. I have not been able to figure out what is trigering it and it has not goten below 35 degrees F where I live. I kept thinking it was not coming from my car, but then I smelled it a few times when no other cas were around. I don't know. Maybe I will take it in to be looked at.

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Old 01-20-2002, 01:33 PM   #19
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Perhaps you could post a picture of where your refering to. Perhaps a picture of your own or a picture previously posted.
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Old 01-21-2002, 07:36 PM   #20
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Old 01-23-2002, 01:39 PM   #21
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i had an appoinment today, but its to warm out, and the smell is gone, the dealer wouldnt be able to recreate the problem and i'd wasted a day of work.
ill bring it in when it gets colder and the smell returns, but i will try to look at it myself tonight after seeing the above thread.

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Old 01-26-2002, 06:25 PM   #22
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hey everyone,

my 03 WRX has the same problem. there is a fuel smell in the cabin when warming up in cold weather. I called the dealer and they said there is a fuel hose that shrinks in the cold and seeps fuel causing the smell. while they said there has never been a fire, they do sell a longer hose to fix it. I guess the hose is under the intake manifold not sure where. I was quoted $650 to fix it though. info is from service dude named Phil at Continental Subaru 907-562-2722
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hey everyone,

my 03 WRX has the same problem. there is a fuel smell in the cabin when warming up in cold weather. I called the dealer and they said there is a fuel hose that shrinks in the cold and seeps fuel causing the smell. while they said there has never been a fire, they do sell a longer hose to fix it. I guess the hose is under the intake manifold not sure where. I was quoted $650 to fix it though. info is from service dude named Phil at Continental Subaru 907-562-2722
If nothing else call Subaru directly. It will set up a claim and have contact the dealer. That may get it done for you for free. I've had that service done two/three times now and never paid a penny, except to lease a car for a day.
Never take the dealer's word that it will cost you!
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my 03 WRX has the same problem. there is a fuel smell in the cabin when warming up in cold weather. I called the dealer and they said there is a fuel hose that shrinks in the cold and seeps fuel causing the smell. while they said there has never been a fire, they do sell a longer hose to fix it. I guess the hose is under the intake manifold not sure where. I was quoted $650 to fix it though. info is from service dude named Phil at Continental Subaru 907-562-2722
There has been 1 documented fire from this.
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SUBARU ALSO REPORTS ONE FIRE ON A MY 2002 WRX VEHICLE THAT OCCURRED IN FEBRUARY 2006.
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