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Old 01-31-2001, 07:08 PM   #1
Rich L
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Cool Watch out for a mad Z-28 driver in Mapleshade/Philly area

Cuz he got a good pimp-smackin, Scoobie style.

Going down Rt73N...toward Philly. This jerk was weaving in and out of traffic, cutting several people off. He got stuck behind someone going slow in the rightlane and I started to pass him on the left. The slow guy in front of him turned off the road, then he came up and started to mess with me. At this point there wasn't any traffic and I figured out he had a 5 or 6 speed manual tranny because he would downshift and jerk his car forward and back, making all kinds of noise, then he got in front of me. This was a blatant attempt to bait me into racing him...
and it worked!

Doing about 55mph, I swerved into the right lane and downshifted into 4th, he reacted... and it was a dead even race as his car was howling next to mine. (I let off of the gas at around 80mph!) He was slow to let up, and got 7 car length lead coasting to the next red traffic light.
Being the nice person I am, I was going to tell him that was a fun little burst of speed. I really had no idea if I could even hang with a 6 speed Z-28, especially from 0-60mph. At the Traffic light, I was going to ask if he modded his car any, but even with his window open, he didnt want to talk. I honked and the jerk angrily pointed his finger/fist forward. As to say "pay attention to the light because when it turns green, Im going to roast you"
This kinda irked me. So I hoped for the best and trusted that if I could get a good launch, I could give him a little competition.
The light turned green, and I got the perfect launch. 3500rpms and slipped the clutch...
Zoom! At the end of first gear I had a full car length on him! Boom! I shifted sooooo hard into second gear (man I though something in the drivetrain was going to break!) and the turbo was hissing and working hard! Shifting into third I increased my lead to 1.5-2 carlengths... and he couldnt catch me. I wussed out at about 90mph. But the race was over.
The Best part was that... the next light turned red, and that punk ran right through it!

I guess he was too ashamed to race again!

2 things though. Can anyone help me with this?
1) He has a strange exhaust setup. This car was DEFINATELY a late model Z-28, but he had only 1 tail pipe! (Im pretty sure of this).
2) also, does that car have a 5 or 6 speed?
3) What is the typical 0-60 time for that car?

This guy is definitely gonna think twice if he pulls up next to your Scoobie! Just rev your engine, maybe he'll run away through the red light!

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Old 01-31-2001, 07:30 PM   #2
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One tailpipe to the drivers side could be the SLP exhaust, like the ones on the SS and Firehawk. My buddy had that one on his car till he rebuilt the motor (blown 355 with 53rwhp). The SLP flows pretty well, but nothing great when it comes to high hp cars.

Can't help you with the 6 speed, but sounds like it could have been. I would imagine 0-60 around 6sec flat?
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Old 01-31-2001, 07:32 PM   #3
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Rich,
As I have said many times before, DON'T SHIFT HARD INTO SECOND GEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, but you are either going to take my advice or start stocking transmissions

I saw in your mods section that you have a custom Rallispec setup. What turbo are you running? What are you using to get your fuel? FPR? Are you going to the Philly auto Show? I would really like to see Rallispec's intercooler pipes, as well as their end tanks. Andy had shown me the cardboard sketch, but I wasn't down there when he finished yours. Are you still running a 2.25" exhaust? Quite a lot of power is to be had in a 3" number. Much louder though


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Old 01-31-2001, 07:48 PM   #4
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Z28 6spds can hit 60 in low 5's. One exhaust pipe could also mean it was a V6 car.
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Old 01-31-2001, 09:32 PM   #5
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Matt,

Currently I'm running a small Mitzu TDO5-12A-8CM2 turbocharger with a 2.25 exhaust (I probably have the smallest turbo than anyone else on this board! ).With the Rallispec IC, I can get 6 safe psi.

I dont have as good of a setup as you do, its not designed for top HP,(I didnt have the money for a TECII ) but the car does runs strong. (I intentionally chose a smaller diameter exhaust for better torque. Rallispec installed a Toyota Supra TT fuel pump and Bell FPR, so I should be ok up to 7 psi.
If you are going to the Cape May trip, I show you what they did. Andy welded all the IC piping by eye, and it looks good. Im not sure about the Autoshow yet.

Nat & RidinLow:
Thanks for the info. I know this Z-28 was not a v-6 and the tailpipe was on the driver's side.

I know its hard to believe, I know my car isnt the greatest, but it really happened!
Anyone who is stuck on the fence between staying NA or getting a turbo...
jump off with both feet to the turbo side because its worth EVERY dam penny!
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Old 02-01-2001, 06:14 AM   #6
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I intentionally chose a smaller diameter exhaust for better torque
FWIW that theory only applies to NA cars. With a turbocharged car you are only hurting the performance by going with a smaller exhaust. You are lowering the pressure differential across the turbine wheel (takes longer to spool up) and increasing your EGTs due to the increased back pressure.

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Old 02-01-2001, 09:19 AM   #7
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Sounds like someone has been brushing up on their turbo-homework. Possibly making a deposit at the banko de Rallispec para el charger de turbo? O el charger de super?
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Old 02-01-2001, 10:30 AM   #8
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I'm just a know-it-all

Actually I've been considering ditching the RS in favor of a Galant VR4, but that's a whole 'nother story.

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Old 02-01-2001, 04:40 PM   #9
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Tony,
Thanks for the info, but Andy at Rallispec felt that the smaller piping wouldn't hurt performance considering my "low-power" setup.

I was looking for stats on the Camaro and found this: http://carpoint.msn.com/Vip/Heraud/C...maro/2000S.asp

also, stick with your RS. Its nicer looking and has great potential.
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Old 02-02-2001, 06:04 AM   #10
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Yeah, at 6psi you're probably fine but a larger exhaust can only help w/ a turbo.

As for keeping the RS: I'm tired of the boy racer thing (and the cops notice it too) and it definitely doesn't have the tuning potential of a DSM except in the handling department. I want a sleeper car that really hauls ass, and a VR4 is the ticket.

Anyone want to buy a MY99 RS with a killer suspension package (coilovers, etc) and Rallispec 2.5" exhaust for $13.3k? ($12.9k w/ stock suspension and exhaust)

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Old 02-02-2001, 08:55 AM   #11
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WOW Tony, that's pretty low. I would wait until the WRX craze is over, not to mention this years AutoX season.

I would love a VR4, but there kinda...old. If I were you I'd find a very tired VR4 and start a project. There great cars, but they need constant attention. I don't know how reliable they would be for everyday use. I know all of my friends DSM's are always on jack stands on somebody's lawn.

What about the dreaded Miata. Oh, did I just say the M word? They do have great tuning potential, handle like no other, and I really like how the new ones look. I don't even want to imagine how bad you'd beat me in a Miata


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Old 02-02-2001, 11:13 AM   #12
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It's pretty simple. I would like to reduce my payments a bit. The RS costs too much money to get horsepower out of (Matt, I know you won't disagree) and it gets all the wrong kind of attention. I must be getting old because the big wings and scoops don't do it for me anymore, I want subtle but fast. The speak-softly-but-carry-a-big-stick approach. I can get a good VR4 for 5-7 grand and throw on some bolt ons and I'm dusting an RS (in a straight line anyways). I'll give it a good suspension but nothing like the setup I have on the RS. That too has grown old. It handles awesome but at the cost of comfortable daily driving (again, getting old I guess). Also the VR4 is easier to work on, cheaper to work on and more is known about it than the RS. I have gotten accustomed to AWD so the VR4 is about the only choice out there for me.

And with lower payments I can afford my future autox car, a Triumph TR6

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Old 02-03-2001, 03:36 PM   #13
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Tony, whaddya lookin' to retire soon? you might wanna get a walker with that VR4 the way you are talking about getting old. I think you should have the medic alert thing thrown in for good measure.

gotta raz granpa Tony!

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Old 02-03-2001, 04:11 PM   #14
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Tony,

I'll totally agree with everything you said, especially the part about RS's being so damned expensive to upgrade, besides that working on them is easier. Have you ever done a clutch on a 4G63? You have to remove the power steering pump, and then this gets in the way, and that bolt was stripped away 5 years ago...

7 of my friends own dsm's. Four 1st gen's, two 2nd gen's, and one mint VR4. I must have done at least 5 alternators, 4 clutches, 8 cv axles(yes, 4 on one car and 2 on another), pulled the head on one after the timing belt went, and various other tedious and annoying work. The motors are always filthy from oil puking all over the place, making every last crevasse a place for hibernating oil sludge

Contrary to what my post reads, I really do love these cars. The "20psi ain't enough for ya? What the hell, lets try 22psi." mentality is great, as I live in a world where 1psi can mean the difference between ultimate power, and complete distruction

In any case I'll keep a look out for you, as I tend to see a lot of DSM's for sale.


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