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Old 01-21-2002, 02:10 PM   #1
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Question 2002 2.5 TS Sport Wagon

Thinking of buying 2002 2.5 TS Sport Wagon. After reading about WRX problems (ABS, clutch, noise etc.), I am not sure any more.

Are these problems specific only to WRX Wagon or the same is applicable to 2.5 TS Wagon?

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Old 01-21-2002, 05:10 PM   #2
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I was looking at the TS but for a variety of reasons I got the OBS. I've only about 3000 miles on it, it's been great! The biggest 'issue' I have is with the factory floor mat!

I've engaged the ABS just a few times on gravel roads and it worked as expected. I think a lot of those issues *are* WRX issues. I say with my fingers crossed )

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Old 01-22-2002, 03:46 PM   #3
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Get the WRX, I have had mine for 4months with 7k and have had no problems. Don't base your disision on a few people having problems. You don't know how those people drive or take care of their cars. I love my WRX Wagon!!!!!
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Old 01-22-2002, 05:28 PM   #4
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You'll only read about problems here, not successes. No one posts "I drove to work today and didn't get a CE light."

That said, Sube ABS is Sube ABS. I've had it successfully engage, and I've had it engage unnecessarily (IMHO). It is also possible that the TS will suffer from clutch shudder, if that's what you're referring to. I had a case of it a while back, but now in the coldest months it is a lot less apparent. Not bad enough to bother taking it to the dealer.

Test drive one and see if it exhibits the things you're looking for. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Sube.
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Old 01-22-2002, 06:49 PM   #5
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I'm sure that cars from all mfg's have problems occasionally.
Subaru is no exception.
I have had lots of problems with my WRX because I believe that Subaru under-engineered the US version.
The Japanese version is beefier in just about every way (especially in high-wear items like the clutch and brakes)
to those who think that it's because of the way they are driven, i have to say in my case you are wrong. I've gone fast - it's marketed as a performance car. BUT i've never had transmission problems and clutch problems with ANY other manual car before.

I drove my 90 legacy into the ground...literally, i truly abused it and it kept on going. I did have to replace the transmission, but that was entirely my fault.


Back to the subject, these do seem like problems specific to the WRX and I wouldn't worry at all about the new sport wagon.
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Old 01-22-2002, 11:38 PM   #6
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I'm on my 4th Subie wagon (TS now) and because I didn't want a turbo, got the TS. All I can tell you is that I love it. My best Subie ever! No rattle, smooth, it's an auto but plenty of power like the RS.
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Old 01-23-2002, 09:46 AM   #7
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Thinking of buying 2002 2.5 TS Sport Wagon. After reading about WRX problems (ABS, clutch, noise etc.), I am not sure any more.

Are these problems specific only to WRX Wagon or the same is applicable to 2.5 TS Wagon?

The missus has an '02 OBS and let me tell you, the car is perfect. Its just over two months old and has 9000 miles on it. No CE light, no problems, nothing. It is great. I don't expect to have any trouble with it, that is why I didn't get a turbo, maintenance is lethal, and I travel to several remote areas that I just couldn't trust the availability of premium fuel.

Plus the car has the same drivetrain as my '01 RS that has 32k miles on it. No CE light ever and zero warranty claims. This is why I've had 6 Subarus. As long as you perform scheduled/basic maintenance, the car will run forever.
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Old 04-06-2002, 10:39 AM   #8
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Yeah, show me any marque of car that doesn't have some problems.

Of all the problems you stated, none affect the reliability or the performance of the WRX. Your WRX will still be more reliable than 90% of the cars out there. Cluch shudder is common on all cars with clutches. AWD just magnifies it.

The ABS is the only valid concern you have. You just have to get used to Subaru's version of ABS. Its not bad and just as safe once you know how its going to react. You should always practice panic braking in a safe enviroment in any car to learn how it handles. It sucks to find out how your car really brakes/handles for the first time during a real panic stop or manuver.

If you want that kind of "perfection", go spend your money on an Accord or something. You can't expect a $24K car as fast as a WRX to be perfect can you? Its pretty damn close though

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Old 06-02-2008, 02:41 PM   #9
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"It is also possible that the TS will suffer from clutch shudder"

Is "clutch shudder" a slipping clutch? I sometimes have that when I have just started my car and it's cold.
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:23 PM   #10
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"It is also possible that the TS will suffer from clutch shudder"

Is "clutch shudder" a slipping clutch? I sometimes have that when I have just started my car and it's cold.
My '00 OBS does the same thing when it (the car) is cold. I don't know that I would call it "slipping". It is more of (go figure) a shudder, that is a pronounced pulsating vibration. Slipping (in simple terms) is when your RPMs go up but the car does not accelerate as it should. Slip a lot, and it will get stinky. Put yourself into a small snow drift to avoid getting hit by an out-of-control driver and then rock back and forth for 5 minutes to get out - that gets you stinky AND smoke (and a shortened clutch life).

The remedy for shudder - just give it a little more gas.
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