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Old 02-01-2002, 09:23 PM   #1
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Talking Omori gauges worth it

Just finished up my Omori gauge install. Ordered them in December from Malaysia got 'em in January. They look like the dash gauges! I have the boost, oil temp, egt gauges. All the hardware from the face plate to the sensors are top notch! I was a little aprehensive about drilling into to my exhaust manifold but, I went ahead with it ( number 3 cyl). Just took the shield down and found the best place to drill and tap for it. Not too sure if I should of used a 1/8 bspt or not. That egt gauge is quick too. (rises with rpms) Omori gauges are black faced with green lights and yellow needles and I'm glad I chunked down the change for them. (course they had a special going in December). Any e-mails I sent to Michael Pang were responed to very quickly. (one was in just 2 hours! Thanks to all of you here at the I-Club. It's a great resourse!!!!
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Old 02-07-2002, 10:25 AM   #2
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I'm waiting for mine to arrive. I sent my payment to them and it's just sitting in the post office in Malaysia...

Michael Pang was very prompt with his replies. Very polite too. I'll update this thread when I have more info.

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Old 02-07-2002, 11:52 AM   #3
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hey xstar, you'll find that they look great once your done. I had to shave "notches" in the stock pod where the gauge face brakets are. it came out a tight fit so I didn't have to bolt the brackets to the stock metal "shelf". Just remember you won't get the dimming feature with any "electronic" gauges" The light circuit is not separate. Use that lone plug that is taped to the radio harness for the diming if you got a boost gauge. Then tap off the acc power from the clock. I ran a grd wire to the radio bracket. it took only 4 days once it shipped to get to me. And your right, it's almost like Micheal is sitting at his computer waiting for e-mail.
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Old 02-07-2002, 12:48 PM   #4
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Omori gauges ROCK.

try www.omori-na.com so you don't have to order from other countries...
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Old 02-07-2002, 04:45 PM   #5
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Omori gauges ROCK.

try www.omori-na.com so you don't have to order from other countries...
Yes, I agree, but it costs $200 more if I order the same stuff (boost, oil pressure, EGT) from omori-na... I'd rather wait.
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Old 02-07-2002, 04:48 PM   #6
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hey xstar, you'll find that they look great once your done. I had to shave "notches" in the stock pod where the gauge face brakets are. it came out a tight fit so I didn't have to bolt the brackets to the stock metal "shelf". Just remember you won't get the dimming feature with any "electronic" gauges" The light circuit is not separate. Use that lone plug that is taped to the radio harness for the diming if you got a boost gauge. Then tap off the acc power from the clock. I ran a grd wire to the radio bracket. it took only 4 days once it shipped to get to me. And your right, it's almost like Micheal is sitting at his computer waiting for e-mail.
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thanks for the tips Dave. I'll need them.
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Old 02-10-2002, 10:16 PM   #7
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I talked to the guys at Omori-Na, and they said that if you order from the Malysia site, that you will have NO warranty for your gauges. Omori-NA is the ONLY north American autorhized dealer, and if you get your gauges from Malysia, that it COULD cost more and take longer due to getting them into the US.
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Old 02-11-2002, 12:36 PM   #8
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Hey ddman I pm'd ya. And you are right there is no warranty. if you don't have them installed by a "certified" auto mechanic "as stated in the warranty info" you won't have one either! no matter where you buy them. Cost's? well except for the pain of going thru Western Union and the Express mail charges I still can save a 100 dollars. Once they get the "yellow" needle treatment it only took them 4 days to get to me. (plus no taxes) Atleast we have choices...... Dave
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Old 02-12-2002, 12:32 AM   #9
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true....

ah well, hopefully ill have enough cash for the EGT and Voltage gauges soon, then i got to put together a ghetto setup for my 1 1/2 nitrous gauge which will go in the center hole
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Old 02-17-2002, 07:20 PM   #10
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Just got my Omori gauges and they look great! I got the small ones and the subaru stock pod. Only problem was it was a PITA to get the gauges to fit in the pod. I had to remove the top and bottom of the faceplate, PLUS file down the pod a little.

They do look awesome now though. Just a bit brighter than stock but otherwise perfect. I'm very happy with them.

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Old 03-29-2002, 11:37 AM   #11
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Hi guys:

Im planning on getting this gauges too, though I have a question... Im replacing the stock radio with a single din Kenwood 911DVD unit. I will have the second din place free... And I thought of installing the gauges there...Do you think it could be done without much problems? Im not doing the installation...a shop will be doing it for me.

How much did you pay for Boost+EGT+Oil Pressure?

Any e-mail I can contact Omori-Malasya?
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Old 03-29-2002, 08:58 PM   #12
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Glad to hear that the gauges are working well. I ordered from omori-malaysia (oil pressure/egt/boost) too.. Payment sent on february 5, but I haven't gotten them yet.

Michael Pang has been very polite and quick to respond to my inquries, so I'm not too worried (yet!). Nevertheless, I't's good to hear that the quality is top notch. BTW, I'd love more details about the install, such as what size drill bit should you use to drill into the manifold, should you use a sealant?
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Old 03-31-2002, 02:52 AM   #13
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I don't think they have the gauges ready when you order them...if you got the yellow needle treatment it takes awhile...it's all custom...I used a 5/16 drill bit with a 1/8 bsp tap (british standard) don't go all the way thru the tap do a little at a time. It supposedly pipe threads on the probe. I just put some Anti-seize goop on the probe...sealant is probaly useless with the temp. that it see's. I drilled number 3 cly. un-did the bolts on the sheild got it out of the way and found a spot to drill in with the motor runnin'.....no problems in 1000 miles....Dave
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Old 04-11-2002, 01:15 PM   #14
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Well, I went and asked Omori NA why they're prices are so much more than Omori Malaysia... here's the reply:

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Scott-

Unfortunately, no.

One thing you need to keep in mind. Regardless of what you may have been
told, Omori Malaysia is no longer authorized to sell here because of a lack
of customer service and support that was becoming detrimental to our product
line and image. They simply act as an agent that passes orders to the
factory in Japan, where they are drop shipped. Since Omori set us up here
to handle the North American market, they no longer ship any orders through
Malaysia to the US. Hence, you may pay, but you won't receive it, and the
documentation is here on my desk to confirm that. It's something we have
been battling, but in the end it is good for everyone. We can bring you a
superior and unique product, and top-notch service, and avoid the hassles
that you'd face if you got a shipment from 3000+ miles away that was
damaged, or included improper parts for your application.

Regardless, orders from them will not be backed by any warranties or
guarantees of any kind by the manufacturer or by us. I'm sorry you feel our
prices are high, but I assure you we are not ripping anyone off. We are not
an agent. We are a stocking distributor. We are building a warehouse of
parts to allow ready access should a customer need immediate assistance or
warranty replacements. An agent such as Omori Malaysia does not do this.
They simply take your order, mark it up, and pass it to the Mfg. He has no
costs, no inventory, does not need staff to help you with problems, and does
not have to care if you have to wait 4 weeks to get part, because he's 3000
miles from you. As a distributor, we have to sell at retail. As we develop
our distribution network here you will see some flexibility in that regard.
We are currently working with a very well known WRX specialist/tuner to
carry this line of product exclusively, and as they know the market, they
are free to adjust prices accordingly to match the Subaru enthusiasts'
demands. But the prices we give are set by the manufacturer. I'd ask that
you give us a couple of weeks to settle things with them, and then the WRX
product will be available readily all over the country.

Thanks for hearing us out. We will do and are doing everything we can to
satisfy all our current and future customers.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perry.Scott
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:10 PM
> To: 'Omori North America'
> Subject: RE: WRX Gauges
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> Hi Greg,
>
> Thanks for the reply! I'm very interested in the Omori gauges,
> however I am concerned that your prices are too high. Omori Malaysia is
> able to offer me the same package, with the Electric boost gauge for about
> $500, including international shipping and money transfer fees. I'd much
> rather order from Omori-NA, but not at a $200 markup. Is there anyway you
> can come closer to the Omori Malaysia prices?
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Anyone care to comment on their experiences with Omori Malaysia? I'd like to order locally for all the reasons Greg gave me, but not at a 40% markup!

--Scott

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Old 04-11-2002, 04:18 PM   #15
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I respect the points that omori NA made. I did have to wait close to 2 months for my meters to get here from Japan. Nevertheless, they did get here and in good condition. I also received prompt and courteous email responses from the Malaysian rep, Michael, and I saved a lot of money. I went into the deal based on other i-clubbers feedback and fully understanding that if there were problems I wouldn't have the same kind of recourse that I might have with a domestic distributor. So far so good. As the NA rep stated, if you wait you might be able to get them domestically for a better price. Wherever you get them, the gauges are excellent and I recommend them highly, and as a bonus the instructions are very entertaining to read: ex)

"Exhaust temperature gives effect to engine, especially at speed driving, if not good in condition, occures (sp) engine trouble, give damage to engine and turbo."

Right! Perhaps omori NA will include instructions that are a little easier to understand (at least for idjits like myself.)

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Old 04-11-2002, 04:30 PM   #16
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Omori North America has their installation manuals available online:

http://www.omori-na.com/manuals.htm

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Old 04-11-2002, 06:11 PM   #17
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I figure I'll give Omori NA a week or two to establish a reseller that can offer the gauges at below MSRP since I have some time before I absolutely need them for my Vishnu Stage 0 install that I'm planning this summer.

'Course if they don't have their setup soon, I'll be forced to get the gauges from Malaysia because the shipping takes sooooo long!

Of course, I could always go with Greddy gauges... they also look pretty stock-like, and are probably easier to find... maybe www.optauto.com has them in stock by now...?

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Old 04-11-2002, 07:18 PM   #18
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Thanks for the dialog on the Omori gauges.

I have 3 of the 60mm GReddy gauges in my center pod, and 3 of the 52mm GReddy gauges in my A pillar pod.

But, now, I need to find a 52mm oil temperature gauge to fit in my left hand corner pod, and GReddy doesn't make it in 52mm size.

Sounds like I should give Omori a close look.

Thanks again, GoodFinder
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Old 04-12-2002, 12:20 AM   #19
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The service from Omori-NA is outstanding. I have had numerous issues with my gauge installs (all little problems, mostly with parts). Greg has been more than helpful with me to get more parts I needed.

The boost gauge I received from Malaysia was a little flawed. The number plate under the glass was screwed a little to far into the gauge. So I have a thin white line around the gauge with it's lit. I don't think I want to bother with another 2 way international shipment... (the other 2 gauges were delivered perfectly)

So for stuff like that, Omori-NA would obviously be the better choice when something goes wrong. But IMO, I think Omori's quality control is pretty good (I haven't heard of a problem posted in i-club).

Lastly, I received my gauges from Malaysia (more like Japan) in 5 weeks.

Take a chance and save money? Pay for quality of service and ease of mind? It'll be a choice you'll have to make yourself.

good luck,

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Old 04-15-2002, 02:38 PM   #20
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Omori-NA has been lacking in one important way: setting up a reseller who is willing to deal.

This has really been dragging. I referred Bottle to Omori-NA a few months ago. I think his interest was refused. I'll believe it when I see it.

It should be obvious from this thread and others that there is a strong demand for these at the Maylasia type pricing.

I held off from buying from Maylasia for some time, but I have heard about only good experiences dealing with Michael Pang, and he has been timely about replying to several emails from me.

I have the Vishnu kit sitting patiently in my living room, waiting on Samco IC hoses. Rather have gauges in prior to install...
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Old 04-15-2002, 03:24 PM   #21
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I ordered my Omori's form Michael Pang in Malaysia. Received my three 45mm gauges (mechanical boost, electrical EGT, electrical oil temp) and all the fittings I could ever need. There were no problems other than the long wait for the shipment. I received everything in good condition and with extra fittings for oil temp, since I wasn't sure where I would install it.

The installation went off without a hitch. Boost gauge is tapped off the BOV signal line. EGT is tapped off the driver's side manifold where all 4 runners meet, a little farther out than most. For oil temp, I used a sandwich plate bored out to allow full oil flow. The oil temp sensor is mounted in one of 3/8NPT ports in the sandwich plate. Gauge power is taken from the clock harness.

The only complaint I have is that each gauge has a dim spot where the lighting is dimmer than the rest of the gauge. Does anyone else experience this problem? Is there a way to solve it?

xstar,

Did you order from Omori-NA or from Malaysia?

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and I have the same problem you do regarding some spots are brighter than the others. Like what I posted above, my mech. boost gauge actually came with a flaw.

they're all minor to me... but it is a bummer nontheless.
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Do these gauges work with the stock dimmer switch?

The installation manual off Omori-NA's site tells you to wire one of the leads to a line that's on only with the headlights... is this the actual power to the lights (so the dimmer will work) or is this just used as a signal to tell the gauges to turn on the lights?

If the dimmer doesn't work, how easy is it to take these gauge's apart? Perhaps disabling the gauges lights and adding your own LEDs on the stock dimmer will allow the gauges to dim, and even-out the lighting for those people who have uneven backlighting.

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My dimmer does not work with the Omori gauges. So they're either on or off. I used the clock harness. But I did not try tapping another location, YMMV.

If you want to take apart the gauge, kiss that Omori-NA warranty goodbye... (in case you didn't know...)
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My dimmer does not work with the Omori gauges. So they're either on or off. I used the clock harness. But I did not try tapping another location, YMMV.
does that mean your gauges are lit all the time? Basically if, they're working, they're lit?

Is this how you wired it?

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From Omori NA Electric Boost Gauge installation instructions:
Connect the red wire to switched power, on only with ignition. Black wires to ground, white wire to illumination. (Powered only when headlights are on) Tape the brown wire back to the harness, as it is unused.
It sounds like if the white wire is connected to the dimmed light switch, the gauges should dim, but since I don't have the gauges, I can't try it. Did your gauges have all the wires listed above?

And, yes, I know that my warranty will be nil if I open the gauges up... but since I'll be ordering from Malaysia anyway (unless Omori NA gets their act together in the next week or so) my warranty will be pretty much non-existant as it is...

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