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Old 03-05-2008, 12:00 AM   #1
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Question School me on the Nissan Hardbody pickup truck.

Here's a thought that popped into my head tonight.

Trade my beater Nissan 200SX for a Nissan Hardbody pickup, via selling the 200SX, then using the cash to buy a hardbody. The 200SX has about 250,000 miles on the odometer, so I probably won't get much for it. The only real selling point is the 37-42 miles per gallon. That said, if regular gas hits $4.00/gallon this summer, it might be a great time to sell the 200.

Questions.

What years did they make the hardbody?
What years should I avoid?
Easy to fix?
Common problems?
What to look out for?
4 cylinder or 6 cylinder?
gas mileage?
how many miles on the odometer is too many?
forums for the hardbody?
how cheap can I get one? (if over $2,000 I'll probably scrap the whole idea)
reliable as old toyotas?
is the old Datsun 720 as reliable?
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Old 03-05-2008, 12:10 AM   #2
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Old 03-05-2008, 12:32 AM   #3
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I don't remember what year they started making them but the last year for hardbodies was 97.
I had a 97 se 4x2 automatic...that thing was slow as hell.
Gas mileage wasn't great. Usually around 24mpg.
I don't know what years you should avoid.
I didn't really have any issues with mine but I got rid of it when I got the rex. It only had around 65k on it. I do remember having an issue with the power locks but I got that fixed.
My quick search of autotrader leads me to believe that you'll get a fairly used and abused hardbody for 2k.
check the nissan forums, they usually have a section on the trucks http://forums.nicoclub.com/zeroforum/36
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:00 AM   #4
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Almost no one knows that its name is Hardbody.
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:14 AM   #5
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1986.5 was the first year. I had a '87 V6 extended cab 4x4, beat the **** out of it. I loved it, the only problem was driveline balance problems when it was 4x'd hard. It runs a rear split driveline with a bearing in a supporter in the middle, wears out quick.
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Old 07-06-2011, 10:11 PM   #6
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Almost no one knows that its name is Hardbody.
D21.

They suck. You can buy mine. Get a Toyota.
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:09 AM   #7
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I had an 86 hardbody with well over 100k miles on it. I sold it to a friend when I joined the military and he drove the piss out of it too. I had a 2x4 frontier and I currently have a frontier "desert runner". The can take a serious beating and if you treat them to regular maintenance, they will last forever. All of my nissan trucks had suspension kit on them so the majority of my mechaincal issues evolved from me beating them up in the dirt. If you're interested in some kick ass suspension for it you should check out chaosfab.com
The black frontier is my old truck.
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Old 03-05-2008, 01:12 AM   #8
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Here's a thought that popped into my head tonight.

Trade my beater Nissan 200SX for a Nissan Hardbody pickup, via selling the 200SX, then using the cash to buy a hardbody. The 200SX has about 250,000 miles on the odometer, so I probably won't get much for it. The only real selling point is the 37-42 miles per gallon. That said, if regular gas hits $4.00/gallon this summer, it might be a great time to sell the 200.

Questions.

What years did they make the hardbody?
What years should I avoid?
Easy to fix?
Common problems?
What to look out for?
4 cylinder or 6 cylinder?
gas mileage?
how many miles on the odometer is too many?
forums for the hardbody?
how cheap can I get one? (if over $2,000 I'll probably scrap the whole idea)
reliable as old toyotas?
is the old Datsun 720 as reliable?

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Old 03-05-2008, 01:36 AM   #9
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It's a pickup truck with a tight, hard body waiting to be caressed by your manly, yet sensual hands.
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:20 AM   #10
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day crew bump.
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:22 AM   #11
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It's better than the Softbody pickup.
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:40 AM   #12
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I have a nissan 720, 1984.

say herro to jard




I don't know what you want to know about it. Its from 84 and still runs on original drivetrain (including clutch), thats pretty good I guess.
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Old 06-27-2011, 01:21 PM   #13
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I have a nissan 720, 1984.

say herro to jard




I don't know what you want to know about it. Its from 84 and still runs on original drivetrain (including clutch), thats pretty good I guess.
I call chop.


Jard would be sitting in the middle so he could do some "downhill skiing".
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Old 06-27-2011, 01:23 PM   #14
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Jard would be sitting in the middle so he could do some "downhill skiing".
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:44 AM   #15
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another question. what year did they add fuel injection? I'm not sure I want to get a carbureted (sp?) motor.
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:47 AM   #16
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another question. what year did they add fuel injection? I'm not sure I want to get a carbureted (sp?) motor.
86 was the last year you could have a carburetor in any car I believe.
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Old 07-05-2011, 07:27 PM   #17
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86 was the last year you could have a carburetor in any car I believe.
You believe incorrectly. My '88 Corolla was carbureted, last year of that for the Corollas.

Had an '84 720 kingcab 4x4. Cracked the head twice, a common problem on the Z24 4-cyl which, as everyone else has stated, is a totally gutless motor. Also broke the transmission and wore out the driver's side lower control arm mount on the frame. Don't know how that compares to the '86 and newer. I sold it when the engine started making rapping/knocking noises on cold startup.

If you get a 720 rather than a hardbody, make sure you get '84 or '85. The earlier ones had a retarded strut-rod/ I-beam lower control arm setup. The strut rods were out in front of the control arm and were the lowest thing on the truck in the front. Guaranteed to get bent if you wheel it.
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:45 AM   #18
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I have a nissan 720, 1984.

say herro to jard




I don't know what you want to know about it. Its from 84 and still runs on original drivetrain (including clutch), thats pretty good I guess.
Have you guys seen that video called, "Three Dudes, One Bench Seat"?
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:47 AM   #19
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Have you guys seen that video called, "Tres Vatos, Uno Bencho Seato"?
I love that one!
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Old 03-05-2008, 09:51 AM   #20
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Have you guys seen that video called, "Three Dudes, One Bench Seat"?
nope, but how about three dudes, three shockers, and one bench seat (and some sea foam smoke for that oontz effect)?

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Nice wheels.. bra
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Old 03-05-2008, 10:32 AM   #22
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Questions.

What years did they make the hardbody? 86-97 I believe
What years should I avoid? None, I think all of them are pretty decent
Easy to fix? pretty much. I did all my own maintenance etc.
Common problems? Common problems for the later KA24's in the trucks were ****ty timing chain tensioners . They would wear out and chain would rattle for the first few seconds of a cold start. Not a huge issue obviously, mine did it for 100k (140k on it when I got rid of it)
What to look out for? On older models, look for rust on the frame, undercarriage and body panels
4 cylinder or 6 cylinder? I had the KA24 (Obviously). Decent torque, not alot of power. Decent mileage. The six'er has more power and torque, but you trade off in gas mileage
gas mileage? I generally got around 22 in the city, 25ish on the highway because of gearing
how many miles on the odometer is too many? Assuming regular maintenance: n/a. I know someone still driving their 88 with 350k on the original motor.
forums for the hardbody? Not sure
how cheap can I get one? (if over $2,000 I'll probably scrap the whole idea)
reliable as old toyotas? Older ones can probably be had for around that kind of coin pretty easily, but be picky (especially on the rust issue)
is the old Datsun 720 as reliable?No idea
The only other thing I would look for is one with the LSD in the rear (if shopping for 2WD). Mine had it, and it saved my rear end in the snow a few times. Also, ABS isnt the greatest thing in the world on the standard cab models, especially with the rear drum brakes, so keep that in mind as well.

I replaced normal wear and tear items on mine (belts, hoses, tires, clutch etc), none of which were overly expensive. I changed the oil every 3500 miles until I started running M-1, and then every 7500 miles, according to my Blackstone analysis. Overall, it ran like a sewing machine for the years that I had it.
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Old 03-05-2008, 12:26 PM   #23
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i have had 2 hard body trucks
one was an 86.5
the other a 90

the 86.5 had the Z24 motor in it, although a great motor was completely gutless.
i would go with the newer KA motor if you choose a 4 cyl.

the 90 was a fully loaded SE truck
I really miss it and it had 300k on the original motor.
as said keep an eye on the rear frame rail just above the rear tire for rust. that is why i got rid of this one.

deff look for the LSD option the V6 is also a very reliable motor and can run much longer than the KA, a timing chain is pretty costly to repair and that is a common problem in the KA's the V6 has a belt and is just as simple to change as any subie is.

as far as reliability these trucks are rediciliously reliable. i was a service manager at nissan for 2 years and these trucks had very few problems outside of normal maintance.
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GIS for japanese hardbodies... returned this result... i dont know if it helps...

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My friend's family got one of these a few years back when his sister bought a house. It was sitting in the driveway with the title on the front seat and the keys in the ignition!!! It was an early one, (maybe an 87?) with the Z24, and it was really rusty. Like others have said, rust is an issue with these. It ran like a champ for about 4 years, and it had well over 200K on the odo when they got it. It had the 4-speed manual and no options. My friend used to beat the bag out of it too. It finally did one day, with upwards of 300K on the original drivetrain. These trucks are super durable.
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