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Old 01-30-2009, 12:27 AM   #1
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got a supercharged/turbocharged o6 sti under the knife . the original set up used a gt35 w a .86 ar the new setup will have a 4088 , not too sure of the exact trim and stuff .
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:43 AM   #2
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Unless you have 2 sets of those PE850s your going to run out of injector in a hurry. Super charger and 4088? post pic's or.

Fail Boat!
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Old 01-30-2009, 06:25 AM   #3
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Unless you have 2 sets of those PE850s your going to run out of injector in a hurry. Super charger and 4088? post pic's or.

Fail Boat!
I agree

needs way more injector
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Old 01-30-2009, 08:23 AM   #4
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WOW you guys are working on this car!!! when I first got my WRX in 2004 I remember seeing this thing on on your guys website, brings back memories haha.
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:47 PM   #5
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needs way more injector
This is FAT - They were running STi Pinks on a GT35R and claiming something like 450 whp a long time ago.
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:12 AM   #6
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This is FAT - They were running STi Pinks on a GT35R and claiming something like 450 whp a long time ago.



i love FAT and they hooked me up so good. my motor is actually built by them...

but they did send me away with a 2.5l sti motor and a vf39 running 340cc legacy turbo injectors and a stock JDM version6 sti ecu...

but like i said, fats work is top notch, and twincharged kit is an awesome feat... i would love to test drive that beast

where is they one where the supercharger is part of the manifold?
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Old 01-30-2009, 10:37 AM   #7
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Also, why the eagle rods....are you doing things on a budget??
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Old 01-30-2009, 11:19 AM   #8
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Also, why the eagle rods....are you doing things on a budget??
you can say that about the wiseco pistons too....

I'd bet all the money went into the rest of the setup, like the billet crank and those things...oh what are they called?...oh yeah a supercharger and a turbo


Oh and its tomorrow, now where are the pics?!!
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Old 02-26-2009, 04:20 PM   #9
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you can say that about the wiseco pistons too....
just because wiseco's are a bit cheaper than the competitors pistons does NOT mean they are inferior quality to the competitors

show me one example of where a wiseco failed and a competitor wouldnt have

wiseco has been making pistons for racing applications forever, they are high quality, and work well. And they dont kill you on pricing, that should be a good thing, never thought of a bad
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:28 PM   #10
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Old 01-30-2009, 12:50 PM   #11
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Old 01-30-2009, 03:13 PM   #12
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Unless you have 2 sets of those PE850s your going to run out of injector in a hurry.
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This is FAT - They were running STi Pinks on a GT35R and claiming something like 450 whp a long time ago.
You guys all know what this things for right? Can you tell me off the top of your heads how much the injectors will flow with the fuel pressure at 45 psi or 50 psi?
Well in case you're wondering with the fuel pressure at 50psi the injectors would flow right around 1000cc.

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For what its worth i was running STi pinks with a 60 lb/min turbo. Just cause most people choose to run huge injectors and no FPR doesnt mean its not possible to run smaller injectors and a higher fuel pressure.
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Old 02-07-2009, 10:02 AM   #13
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So when is the car going to be up for good

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Old 01-30-2009, 03:18 PM   #14
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Well, injector size really depends upon the power he is shooting for doesn't it? Maybe he is just shooting for an autocross monster! I miss the instant boost that damn supercharger gives out! And not just the boost, the massive torque!
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Old 01-30-2009, 03:41 PM   #15
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A typical 40R puts out about, what, 60lb/min of air at the top of its max efficiency range? A typical conversion of HP -> lb/min is 9-10:1. So that is ~570hp.

Using RC Engineering's handy-dandy injector sizing utility, and using it recommended settings, they would need to run the injectors at 100% duty cycle and 52psi.

Now let's add the supercharger into the equation...

Yes, they probably need more injector, or not use such a large turbo.
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Old 01-30-2009, 03:49 PM   #16
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While yes, the supercharger CAN make more boost when compounding, the use of the supercharger is more inportant in making big boost (and big torque) SOONER.

If all you are after is big boost, then there is no reason for the supercharger, just go big turbo. But if you want a monster all the time, then compound/twincharge!
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Old 01-30-2009, 03:57 PM   #17
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^^ maybe meth and/or racegas also.

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custom lines
Doesnt the diameter of the line also come into play? If you're flowing 50 psi worth of fuel through 1/4" pipe or 50psi worth of fuel through a 1/2" pipe arent you flowing way more in the 1/2" pipe?

Anyway, for a build like this I wouldnt expect the IDC to be a problem. At least not a "build stopping" problem.

The first time the IDC gets high you either try raising the FP or simply stop and install bigger injectors.

really not that big of a deal.

although, i will agree at first glance its shocking to see 850's with a gt40, let alone a compound gt40.
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:37 PM   #18
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^^ maybe meth and/or racegas also.



Doesnt the diameter of the line also come into play? If you're flowing 50 psi worth of fuel through 1/4" pipe or 50psi worth of fuel through a 1/2" pipe arent you flowing way more in the 1/2" pipe?


Not sure what you are saying here, but that doesn't come into play with 850cc injectors. Not sure why they chose custom lines. Maybe to avoid any fuel differences from cylinder to cylinder? Or maybe intercooler/intake pipe routing.
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:44 PM   #19
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i was saying if they increased the diameter of the fuel lines doesnt that raise the effective cc's also, especially with an increased FP?

I was asking a question. Im not that familiar with FPR's, fuel lines, etc. But it would seem to me that if you increased the size of the fuel lines, you would flow more fuel, right?
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:46 PM   #20
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i was saying if they increased the diameter of the fuel lines doesnt that raise the effective cc's also, especially with an increased FP?

I was asking a question. Im not that familiar with FPR's, fuel lines, etc. But it would seem to me that if you increased the size of the fuel lines, you would flow more fuel, right?
Nope, it doesn't affect the rate of flow since fuel cannot be compressed. The smallest opening controls the max rate of flow. Intercooler and exhaust piping is another story.
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:49 PM   #21
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On a side note, I always wonder why people upgrade their fuel rails and not the lines. The diameter of the fuel lines are much more restrictive than the rails.
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Old 01-30-2009, 04:59 PM   #22
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:01 PM   #23
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its now tomorrow, where are pics?
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:45 PM   #24
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This is the reason I like to twin charge. Look at the boost level skyrocket! This is from a rolling start on the dyno @ 3000 rpm. Full boost 26 psi @ 4000 rpm. The first run I popped the wastegate line off and hit 32 psi @ 4000 rpm.... Wheels slipped so no dyno plot for that one.



And when you are driving around @ higher rpms, the moment you step on the pedal, its is about 1 second to full boost! No lag baby.
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Cmon FAT, I wanna see some pics!
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