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Old 06-15-2009, 09:39 PM   #1
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Default Conversion Headlights and Tailights that looks amazing!!!

http://www.lightwerkz.net/prod_subaru.htm

these things looks awesome and the quality is top notch, i've been told
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:41 PM   #2
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yup, these guys have been around for a while now and there are many cars on here with their retrofit kits. I've heard great reviews about their stuff, and their customer service.
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:44 PM   #3
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yup, these guys have been around for a while now and there are many cars on here with their retrofit kits. I've heard great reviews about their stuff, and their customer service.

Do you have a pair? I would like some feedback before i drop some hard earned cash on some headlights.
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Old 06-15-2009, 09:55 PM   #4
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Interesting. Do they do fog lights as well?
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Old 06-15-2009, 10:22 PM   #5
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How much does this cost? Is there a universal price or... i didnt read the site too carefully either.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:32 AM   #6
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Im not about any of the prices. I just got reffered to this website when i asked a member on iwsti where he got his lights done. You would have to call for exact pricing.
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Old 06-16-2009, 02:42 AM   #7
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Interesting. Do they do fog lights as well?
And what would they do with foglights?
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Old 06-16-2009, 03:08 AM   #8
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And what would they do with foglights?
I wonder...maybe they could put angel eyes on them or convert them to HID's or put projector beams on them. That might not be to bad.
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Old 06-16-2009, 03:35 AM   #9
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I wonder...maybe they could put angel eyes on them or convert them to HID's or put projector beams on them. That might not be to bad.
That actually sounds horrible.

I hope nobody does any of that.
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Old 06-16-2009, 10:45 AM   #10
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That actually sounds horrible.

I hope nobody does any of that.
LOL... i hope no one does either....but still their possible thing that could done
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Old 06-16-2009, 01:36 PM   #11
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That actually sounds horrible.

I hope nobody does any of that.
not a suby but this guy and his is300 will have q45 projectors for low beams, tl projectors for high beams and tsx projectors for fogs. all hid's.


and if im not mistaken, you can use the projector from the is300 fog light and it will fit on 04-05 wrx fogs. im guessing 06-07 might work too.
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Old 06-16-2009, 03:24 AM   #12
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Anyone have those LED taillights. I cant tell if they put out enough light.
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Old 06-16-2009, 07:30 AM   #13
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Anyone have those LED taillights. I cant tell if they put out enough light.
i have a set of the led tails, they are plenty bright evening during the day
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Old 06-16-2009, 04:04 AM   #14
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Things about Lightwerkz that I like:

-does good customer service and will work with people to consult and get the best solution. if there are problems, he goes above and beyond to resolve them.
-will deal with you on an individual basis so your individual needs are met(guess that's the same as first point)
-has experience with many different makes and types of cars and projects, and is willing to try new stuff.
-sold me tsx projector shells so that i could work on my own retro, which a few years later i combined with TSX-R lenses to make the superhotbadassness optics i have now.

Things about Lightwerkz that I dislike:

-sells rebased hid-into-halogen kits to idiots who don't want to do things the right way. that's irresponsible and i have a hard time respecting anyone who profits off of illegal business that has direct victims.
-doesn't give accurate results all the time, and in the past has test fit projects without testing the alignment with more discernibly accurate methods than fitment on a random volunteer car. this creates problems that could be avoided. someone who charges those kinds of rates at that kind of volume should be aligning lamps with lasers and ****.
-quality isn't always best. i saw some taillights (STIDy's) that, though the customer was happy, had some really obviously poor paint work on them:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/...3b732854_b.jpg
i dunno if that's masking problems or what, but paying those kinds of rates should mean the paint doesn't have ridges.


basically, the consultancy and breadth of the business is commendable, but the value and consistency ... dare i say quality... of the work is lacking. lightwerkz is NOT the be all and end all of lighting customization.


lastly, for the things that i dislike:

people on here shill him out like crazy. it's like every other word out of people's mouths when someone wants a particular lighting mod done. i'm guilty of it too but dammit people DIY, and if you can't do it right don't do it at all.
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Old 06-16-2009, 01:02 PM   #15
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Things about Lightwerkz that I like:

-does good customer service and will work with people to consult and get the best solution. if there are problems, he goes above and beyond to resol....

.....

lastly, for the things that i dislike:

people on here shill him out like crazy. it's like every other word out of people's mouths when someone wants a particular lighting mod done. i'm guilty of it too but dammit people DIY, and if you can't do it right don't do it at all.
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I agree with the last statement and the negatives stated about the company. Everytime someone wants a lighting mod done, there's always the mention of LightWerkz but i always come back and say to think about DIY'ing it before heading to Lightwerkz, since it shouldn't always be your final answer. I always suggest HIDPlanet because, if you have the time, these lighting conversions ARE NOT hard. (i've done 2 sets of headlights and a set of LED taillights for my last car). I'm just a little annoyed that people always suggest a vendor before suggesting a DIY or resources for someone to learn about the DIYs; especially since that's how the owner started out.

I was aware of the owner when he was on HIDPlanet back when he was starting out and I thought his stuff was hot, but now that he expanded his product line to include rebased HID kits, which he originally was against before he got "big," seems to throw me off.

Also, an associate, my cousin, of his also has led me to believe even more valid negativity about his/their work now, compared to how it was back when he/they first started out.

I'm a business student and am just looking at LightWerkz from all aspects of the business world. Not here to tell people to boycott LightWerkz, just putting my valid opinions out there.

Although I will congratulate the owner on his success. Businesses are not easy to make successful.
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Old 06-16-2009, 05:49 PM   #16
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Things about Lightwerkz that I like:

-does good customer service and will work with people to consult and get the best solution. if there are problems, he goes above and beyond to resolve them.
-will deal with you on an individual basis so your individual needs are met(guess that's the same as first point)
-has experience with many different makes and types of cars and projects, and is willing to try new stuff.
-sold me tsx projector shells so that i could work on my own retro, which a few years later i combined with TSX-R lenses to make the superhotbadassness optics i have now.

Things about Lightwerkz that I dislike:

-sells rebased hid-into-halogen kits to idiots who don't want to do things the right way. that's irresponsible and i have a hard time respecting anyone who profits off of illegal business that has direct victims.
-doesn't give accurate results all the time, and in the past has test fit projects without testing the alignment with more discernibly accurate methods than fitment on a random volunteer car. this creates problems that could be avoided. someone who charges those kinds of rates at that kind of volume should be aligning lamps with lasers and ****.
-quality isn't always best. i saw some taillights (STIDy's) that, though the customer was happy, had some really obviously poor paint work on them:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/...3b732854_b.jpg
i dunno if that's masking problems or what, but paying those kinds of rates should mean the paint doesn't have ridges.


basically, the consultancy and breadth of the business is commendable, but the value and consistency ... dare i say quality... of the work is lacking. lightwerkz is NOT the be all and end all of lighting customization.


lastly, for the things that i dislike:

people on here shill him out like crazy. it's like every other word out of people's mouths when someone wants a particular lighting mod done. i'm guilty of it too but dammit people DIY, and if you can't do it right don't do it at all.
Oh handsdown, I sense something against me...

Wont argue about the good, who would?

Lets talk about some of the negative things you had to say though.
1. not everyone can afford a retrofit. I stand behind the products I sell, they are high quality products, with a very low failure rate and an excellent lifetime warranty. If someone wants a rebased HID conversion kit, they can get it from my company, its as simple as that. That makes me irresponsible? I suppose I should just cut a huge revenue stream out of my business simply because certain applications give off additional glare? I think it would be a waste of my time to consult each and every HID into Halogen kit customer and ask their application choice, then either deny or accept the order. Im not here to argue, just dont appreciate you calling me irresponsible.

2. While we aim for 100% accuracy, sometimes its hard to achieve it. We have a policy that covers any unsatisifed parties. We stand beghind the work we do, so if something is off, we will fix it at no charge.

http://www.lightwerkz.net/policyagreement.htm

We have never sent out a project that we believe wasnt tested and properly aimed. Your an expert too t seems, as you know getting the projector aligned is the core of the conversion project. If you dont get that part right, the whole thing can be viewed as a failure. Have we had misaligned beam patterns? Sure, but its been corrected promptly and currently I cant think of any unsatisfied customers.

We align with a laser guided system on our aiming station.

So we charge high rates? For custom work? Really? Your entitled to your own opinion. As you may or may not know, it costs money to keep the lights on here, and it costs money to pay my team. I have always truely believes we have undercharged a bit, but thats mainly so we can accomondate everyone, especially in this current economy.

Ridges in the paint? Wow you took some macro shoots of lights and hid them away for a time such as this one. Was it really necessary? Those ridges could have formed over time from the heat in the lamps. Should it have happened? No, however if the customer was unhappy, we would have fixed it at no charge. Since your not the customer though, and dont have any proof we actually did them, I will jsut ignore your comment here, since it really seemed uncessary for you to post this.

I will be on my way now. Nice bumping into you though.
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:57 AM   #17
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should be aligning lamps with lasers and ****.
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We do pre-aim the conversions we do these days with our laser system...
i totally called it! lol.


more seriously- i'm making this ghost text so you won't read it unless you really want to. it's intended for an implicit audience of ANYONE who has an understanding of what lighting retrofits are about.

the hostility was aimed at the people who won't DoItThemselves or won't DoItRight. We'll call them, the No-DIRDITs.

you can say you're catering to the downtrodden poor person by offering kits, but you're really just making more dangerous stuff available to more people... and i don't think it's for customer service... i think you know the above fact and you choose to offer them for profit.

your company provides a valuable service, no doubt... but that's not where my hostility/negativity comes from, nor is it where it's directed.

the hostility i have is toward the system... the "ooh flashy lights are good, i want colorful lights because it will make me look cool" psychological bull**** driving the rebased hid craze... and toward the idiot consumers making bad decisions, buying dangerous and unsafe equipment.

because of the length of time i've been noticing your work, i know that you're aware of the problems with taking the cheap route... and thereby choosing to make a profit from people who want the cheap, wrong, dangerous option.

then again, that's only my opinion.

also, my opinion is that the poor old downtrodden consumer who can't afford a real retrofit, but can afford a ****ty drop in kit, is- in actuality- not poor at all. spending money on hids when you have perfectly safe and functional halogens that are cheaper is something poor people can't afford to do. and if they are poor, actually spending the money on your kits is the worst thing for them, when it could be better spent toward getting off food stamps or getting out of debt or building a bomb to sabotage the oppressor's means of production. did i say that last part? i meant paying child support.

cuz damn, them kidz has gotsta eat!

in short, go ahead and offer the kits- in D2S and D2R fitment only. then i'll cheer on the shills like crazy. also, the racism in the above paragraph is to call attention to the fallacy of your "not everyone can afford" argument.

oh, and it's not just me who says you're being irresponsible- it's the nhtsa and dot and every legal and law enforcement body that's ever approached the issue. they all think it's irresponsible. it is just me that thinks it's greedy. your revenue stream puts glare into my eyes- so honestly i think i have the right to not respect that.

yes it makes you irresponsible. no, that's not where my hostility comes from. don't take it personal, dawg.

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Old 06-16-2009, 12:32 PM   #18
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I got my head lights done at lightwerkz, and I wouldn't have them any other way.



But I have to agree with handsdown, When I slapped my headlights in the car the aim was not even close, and not to mention the lights were not resealed. I have cracked my lights open 4-5 times, so when I sent the to lightwerkz I specifically asked them to PLEASE ADD MORE SEALANT...first sight of rain, my HID shut off, and I had a light full of water. I cracked both of them open put some RTV in and readjusted the aim and direction of both retrofits. Also, I had to cut down the extension in the back to fit in my car, the passenger side would NOT fit, not matter what they said, it would NOT FIT. I tried everything, finally I took about 1/4" off the extension. For the price I paid, they should have been a lot better.

But their work is quality, at least on my lights.
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Old 06-16-2009, 05:56 PM   #19
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I got my head lights done at lightwerkz, and I wouldn't have them any other way.



But I have to agree with handsdown, When I slapped my headlights in the car the aim was not even close, and not to mention the lights were not resealed. I have cracked my lights open 4-5 times, so when I sent the to lightwerkz I specifically asked them to PLEASE ADD MORE SEALANT...first sight of rain, my HID shut off, and I had a light full of water. I cracked both of them open put some RTV in and readjusted the aim and direction of both retrofits. Also, I had to cut down the extension in the back to fit in my car, the passenger side would NOT fit, not matter what they said, it would NOT FIT. I tried everything, finally I took about 1/4" off the extension. For the price I paid, they should have been a lot better.

But their work is quality, at least on my lights.
The aim will never be exact, the end user will need to fine tune any custom headlight setup after the lights have been reassembled. We do pre-aim the conversions we do these days with our laser system, however its not always exact and still today they need to be fine tuned afterwards on the car. The reason is every car is different and has a different angle rake to it. There is an aiming guide on the website, and I am always available to help if needed with the aiming process. Its critical to get it right to have the best performing lights without having them blind oncoming traffic.

And about the extension, im sorry you had trouble, but they are all cut to the same exact dimensions. Odd that you had to mess with it.
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Old 07-13-2009, 11:35 PM   #20
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[quote=Admission_Regret;27097951]I got my head lights done at lightwerkz, and I wouldn't have them any other way.



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What lip kit is this? And where do I get one?
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Old 06-16-2009, 01:19 PM   #21
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lightwerkz cost tooo much. specially trying to modify jdm hids. ouch
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Old 06-16-2009, 05:33 PM   #22
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Great feedback guys, enjoyed reading it all. If anyone has any questions feel free to PM or email me.
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Old 06-16-2009, 05:41 PM   #23
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only bad thing i've heard from light werkz is from a 7th gen civic that keeps fogging up and lightwerkz charges everytime they need to open it up and reseal it. other than that ive heard good things. im a diy man myself so i would try first than pay someone later.
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Old 06-16-2009, 05:51 PM   #24
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only bad thing i've heard from light werkz is from a 7th gen civic that keeps fogging up and lightwerkz charges everytime they need to open it up and reseal it. other than that ive heard good things. im a diy man myself so i would try first than pay someone later.
That is correct, if the lamps are aftermarket we charge for a reseal job and any adjustments needed to the lamps as the aftermarket lamps do not have any type of warranty.
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Old 06-16-2009, 06:03 PM   #25
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i will stick up for lightwerks on the tail light issue... if you crack open a set of tail lights, often you'll see that the factory paint has problems and trash in it from the start... ive seen some overspray too...

You can sand the light with a 3000 grit but the paint tends to stick just fine without it... if people are worried they can use an adhesive promoter.
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