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Old 01-24-2010, 03:17 AM   #1
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Default Installed Killer B Oil Pickup tube today... Thank god!

Well after reading up on the issues people have had with the factory oil pickup tubes breaking and causing the instant loss of oil pressure leading to blowing up the engine, I ordered my Killer B motorsports pickup tube. I finally got around to installing it today, I was overdue for an oil change, so I took that opportunity to install the pickup tube.

First off, it wasn't too bad of an install. Very tight to get to the rear four bolts, but manageable with a swivel, and jacking the engine up to get more room.

Next... I just saved my STI from certain death... My STI has 45k on it, and the pickup tube was on its last leg. There is a hairline fracture that was about to break any time. I had no sign of it being damaged like this, I just happened to come across the issue, and decided to make sure it didn't happen to me.... And I lucked the **** out...

Also, I used ihadmail's DIY for pulling the pan... Many thanks to ihadmail... But you did more work than you had to. I did mine without pulling the exhaust, subframe, or swaybar. I just dropped the plastic engine pan, took off the jack plate, loosened the motor mounts and I did jack up the engine as stated in the DIY, but the pan can be maneuvered out without removing all the excess parts.

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I personally would recommend this to anybody with the EJ25 motor... 45k and my motor woulda been toast if I hadn't done this mod!

Anyways, here are the pics. Notice the crack on the tube.








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Old 01-24-2010, 04:07 AM   #2
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man i'm thinking of doing this too.. great job. how long did it take you.. good thing u dont have to remove all the other parts thats stated in the diy
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Old 01-24-2010, 01:13 PM   #3
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man i'm thinking of doing this too.. great job. how long did it take you.. good thing u dont have to remove all the other parts thats stated in the diy
It took me about 5 hours, but that was taking my time, with some distractions. Without taking all the excess parts off, it really wasnt too bad to do the install. Get the car up as high off the ground as possible so you have more room to work.
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Old 01-24-2010, 08:55 AM   #4
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you should notify and send your pictures to killer b he would love to know about this .

I also have the killer b pick up installed on my sti.

go buy your self a lottery ticket while the luck is still their !
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Old 01-24-2010, 12:22 PM   #5
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MorphiasX, got your e-mail. Thanks so much for the kind words!

tecfoc is right. With that kind of luck it's not a bad idea to get yourself a lottery ticket! I have heard of the occasional crack being caught before failure on 06+ EJ25 motors, but it's still very rare.
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Old 01-24-2010, 12:34 PM   #6
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Great save!

I've been reading up on this over the last few days, and this post pushed me over the edge to pick up a pickup now; I have to change over to the STI oil pan anyways.
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Old 01-24-2010, 01:03 PM   #7
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Yes indeed = I am one of the lucky few who caught a crack and saved my motor also. One of the few parts that Subaru has designed which suck.

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Old 01-24-2010, 01:03 PM   #8
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prob should do this while my motor is on the engine stand.
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Old 01-25-2010, 09:03 AM   #9
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prob should do this while my motor is on the engine stand.
Much easier!
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Old 01-25-2010, 12:29 PM   #10
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Wow! I'm happy for you. That is luck!

It really makes me what to check mine. And buy this pickup tube.

KillerB, do you see this on the 06 WRX's too?
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Old 01-25-2010, 01:28 PM   #11
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Yes. Any model from 2006-current that has an EJ25 motor (Impreza WRX & STi, Legacy GT, Forester XT) has the same pickup.
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Old 06-15-2010, 07:46 AM   #12
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Yes. Any model from 2006-current that has an EJ25 motor (Impreza WRX & STi, Legacy GT, Forester XT) has the same pickup.

Your statement is 6 months old... just want to make sure it still stands. So.. an '05 LGT doesn't use this pickup?? And isn't susceptible to this fault??
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:06 AM   #13
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Your statement is 6 months old... just want to make sure it still stands. So.. an '05 LGT doesn't use this pickup?? And isn't susceptible to this fault??
There'se any easy way to know if your car/model is known to have failures. If it has an EJ series motor in it. So yes, your Legacy is included. If you go to Legacygt.com you'll find failures and guys that have installed our pickup.
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:16 PM   #14
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Yes. Any model from 2006-current that has an EJ25 motor (Impreza WRX & STi, Legacy GT, Forester XT) has the same pickup.

So do the '05 sti's and later years have a different pick-up that don't tend to break, or are they all the same?
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Old 01-25-2010, 02:49 PM   #15
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looks like a spring/summer project for me.

if i ever get my car back/running right.....
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Old 01-27-2010, 11:01 AM   #16
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glad you caught it in time man.. my baby just broke 42k and i'm getting nervous. i will probably order one of these pickups this week and install ASAP. hopefully it won't be too late for me.. the oil pickup failure thread has got me so paranoid lately. i only wonder how long the killer b pickup will last... another 10k? 40k? longer? not much extended user testing done yet, but i don't really have any other options.
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Old 01-27-2010, 11:47 AM   #17
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LOL... It will outlast your motor/car. Been making them since 2008 with ~800 units sold and LOTS installed on track cars.

If this part fails you've got MUCH bigger problem. Album is HERE if you'd like to see some pics.
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Old 01-27-2010, 01:53 PM   #18
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LOL... It will outlast your motor/car. Been making them since 2008 with ~800 units sold and LOTS installed on track cars.

If this part fails you've got MUCH bigger problem. Album is HERE if you'd like to see some pics.
Yep Mine is one of them... I got mine before it broke too. I track my car pretty often and no longer have this particular worry.

to the OP congrats on getting that cracked pickup outta there!!!
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:54 PM   #19
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LOL... It will outlast your motor/car. Been making them since 2008 with ~800 units sold and LOTS installed on track cars.

If this part fails you've got MUCH bigger problem. Album is HERE if you'd like to see some pics.
good to hear.. does your piece flow more than the stock pickup?
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:20 PM   #20
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The ID of the tubing is a wee bit larger, but the BIG reason it can flow more is that it uses a larger radius mandrel formed bend vs. the tight radius pinch bend on the OEM versions. I've always thought the effect from this is minimal at best since there are smaller pasages above the pickup. That being said, I have had customers tell me they saw an increase in pressure. I've never looked for, or expected, a pressure increase from this part, but based on the design, yes it can flow more more than the OEM pickup.
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Old 01-27-2010, 09:26 PM   #21
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I have the pick-up and pan on my new maxwell motor. This is one of the most important parts on a motor, I think this would be the 'first' thing I would do.
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LOL... It will outlast your motor/car. Been making them since 2008 with ~800 units sold and LOTS installed on track cars.

If this part fails you've got MUCH bigger problem. Album is HERE if you'd like to see some pics.
is this for people who track there car or anyone who mods it?
good thing i feel on this thread
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Is there much point to doing it to a 2 liter moter? I need to change the pan. What does that cost on top of the $190 for the pic up?
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Is there much point to doing it to a 2 liter moter? I need to change the pan. What does that cost on top of the $190 for the pic up?
Here's a thread with a poll for people who had failures. Lots of 2 liter failures too.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/poll...s&pollid=20165

And if you do spirited driving, you should get an 06+ pan and baffle while you're in there. Here's another great post by KillerB about the pan differences

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...8&postcount=36
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Is there much point to doing it to a 2 liter moter? I need to change the pan. What does that cost on top of the $190 for the pic up?
All EJ engines are known to have the failures. The older cars tend to fail at higher mileage vs the newer cars, but they all have instances of failure. If you're having a shop install it, see if they cut you a deal if you buy the pickup and have them install it.
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