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Old 02-15-2011, 04:12 PM   #1
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It's still alive...and actually beginning to pick up steam after having been in a stalled state for a while. I just visited her this last weekend and was able to see the progress of the body repair.




The Suba Performance guys did a GREAT job replacing the engine, transmission, wiring loom, steering column, and gauges with components from a newer US car:






Currently body work is being done to the car to make sure that the seals are tight, the parts fit, and the GRP and paint finish is smooth and void of cracks, shrinkage, etc.





Next I'm going to have the interior redone by replacing the flocking with stitched leather and the inserts with...I'm thinking perferated leather with red underneath? Still thinking what to do with it (any suggestions welcome).


I'd also like to replace the three gauges in the center with something that matches the new gauge cluster a bit more. The other Murtaya in the US (US Demo car) has Defi gauges that look great:


...the only problem is that Defi doesn't seem to have any AFR gauges available. I was hoping to at least have gauges for:
  • EGT
  • battery (with this car, the battery state is important, and combine that with the fact that it might not be run for a while and *might* have shorts, I really think a battery gauge would be useful)
  • AFR
But I might just get boost instead of the air/fuel gauge. Does anybody have any opinions or suggestions for other gauges that might look good and perform well (again, specifically including the EGT, batt, and AFR readings)?

Thanks for any help/suggestions/advice--as well as to all those who have helped get the car working again.
Mike
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Old 02-15-2011, 05:18 PM   #2
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ugh, i need to own one of these.
so sick!

edit: imho it looks way to "kit-carish" though. Exposed shift levers and steering columns and ill fitting body pieces seem to make it look a lot less desirable.
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Old 02-15-2011, 05:58 PM   #3
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ugh, i need to own one of these.
so sick!

edit: imho it looks way to "kit-carish" though. Exposed shift levers and steering columns and ill fitting body pieces seem to make it look a lot less desirable.
I agree...I think the picture you're referring to is the one from the cockpit? That's the US demo car, and even though it's in running form, the interior is not finished. Besides the missing shifter boot, absent steering column cover, and interior pieces that don't line up--it still needs some buttons and adjustments to make the US STi gauge cluster fit (the kit was designed for the shorter, previous-gen gauge cluster; my car is having the same issue). Not to mention the strange placement of the emergency flashers button. Then again, the Demo Murtaya was put together in a couple months and hasn't been worked on since.

My old interior was very simple but it had the basics covered (well, OK, the shifter and door cards are missing here):


I'm curious as to what people think, but I'm thinking about replacing the red areas with black, perferated leather with red underneath, and the fuzzy surrounding areas with stitched solid leather...I think it will make it look a bit better? The shifter and emergency brake boots will likewise be black leather with red stitching, as will the replacement steering wheel...


Another shot of the very simple prototype interior shows that at least they have the wires covered up:


From what I've found, you can make the interior as simple or as rich as you like (and your bank account can support).
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Old 02-17-2011, 02:44 AM   #4
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Actually, speaking of interiors...I'm experimenting with how to redo mine...

Driver-centric gauge arrangment, leather stitching, black perforated leather with rud underneath, Murtaya logo to offset the gauges (the steering wheel and regular gauges seen here will be replaced with STi ones so they should better match the gauges):


Same but with original red Alcantara for trim:


Regular arrangement:


Arc:


X:


Drunk:



The perforated leather and stitching look bad because of my (lack of) photochop skills--when I stopped by to talk to the interior guy he had some good-looking perforated leather examples that I think would look good.
The things we do to keep us interested while we wait....and wait........and wait........

As for the gauges, I like the Defi ones, but unfortunately they don't seem to make any AFR gauges (anybody know why?)...So I'm looking at Prosport gauges which seem to have either a love it or hate it following. Does anybody have any other suggestions for gauges? I've looked at AEM, HKS, Greddy, Defi, Prosport, Stri, and Speedhut. I like the blacked-out look when off and amber color since they'll match the STi gauges, and would like to get at least an AFR, EGT, and volt gauges...

Any suggestions, advice, and comments welcome--
Thanks!
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Old 02-15-2011, 05:42 PM   #5
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Still pretty cool... thanks for sharing your progress.
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Old 02-17-2011, 02:56 AM   #6
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I wouldn't buy an AFR gauge, its basically a waste. If you want the gauge for anything but a light show and just to have another gauge you should look into a wideband air/fuel ratio gauge. AEM makes great ones. Id say a volt gauge is basically a waste too, you might as well buy a circle and draw a line towards a 12 because thats all the gauge will do. You should consider oil temp, oil pressure, egt, wideband a/f, and possibly a water temp.
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Old 02-17-2011, 03:14 AM   #7
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I wouldn't buy an AFR gauge, its basically a waste. If you want the gauge for anything but a light show and just to have another gauge you should look into a wideband air/fuel ratio gauge. AEM makes great ones. Id say a volt gauge is basically a waste too, you might as well buy a circle and draw a line towards a 12 because thats all the gauge will do. You should consider oil temp, oil pressure, egt, wideband a/f, and possibly a water temp.
Thanks for the response. Now I get to show my ignorance: I thought an AFR gauge was an Air/Fuel Ratio Gauge?

As for the volt gauge, considering this has all custom wiring, relies on the battery to open the doors (no door handles), and might be stored for long periods of time, I thought it might be useful to have a more expressive gauge for the voltage (though the plan/hope is for it to always point to 12...).



The gauges in the pictures are:
  • EGT
  • Air Fule Ratio (wideband)
  • Volt
  • Boost
  • Clock (I'll be honest--I got suckered in when I saw it and started thinking it would be cool to have a clock that also matches the other gauges)
I didn't think the water and oil temp/pressure would vary that much (granted, like you mentioned, I did have volt gauge, but this is technically a British car and I got to watch that electrical system )--but I'll definitely keep them in mind (especially after I get crap for having a clock).

To be honest, I never really liked excessive gauges (my WRX doesn't even have a boost gauge). Maybe I'm just getting restless waiting for the car? At this rate, I'll have gauges up the A-pillar, across the roof, down the other A-pillar....
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Old 02-17-2011, 02:27 PM   #8
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AFR gauge is A/F ration but if you have ever owned one you would know that the readings it gives are useless and most people will call it a light show because it literally will just bounce all around. I can understand why you would want a voltage gauge I suppose. I wouldnt say that oil temp and oil pressure would vary much but they are definitely something you want to have your eye on.
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:36 PM   #9
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fun project
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Old 02-17-2011, 05:47 PM   #10
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awesome project do they make this car in a coupe cause that would be frickin sweet
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Old 02-22-2011, 12:13 AM   #11
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Haha..my car's in the background of the lot picture at Suba. Troy the only person in the state that touches my stuff beside me heh. He's good.
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Old 02-22-2011, 12:32 AM   #12
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It's a cool idea, shame they are so...weird looking.
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Old 02-22-2011, 08:32 AM   #13
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these bad boys are awesome, i gotta get me one lol.
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Old 08-18-2011, 02:02 PM   #14
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So despite the lack of updates on my site, things are still progressing--in fact faster than they have in years (which, granted, probably isn't saying much).

I've basically had everything rebuilt--the years in cold storage, dock, etc. have not been kind to the body, so besides having the powertrain replaced, I'm also redoing the body finish (it was bumpy and showed internal cracking):



And hopefully the entire car will have the same finish as smoothness as seen in the trunk lid here:



The body should be done in a week or so, and then it's the interior's turn...and instead of letting things be, I started thinking about redesigning the interior based on an RX7 FD and mkIV Supra interior--specifically the "wrap-around-the-driver" design I always liked. So, I created some renderings and we're looking into possibly getting something like this done:

So instead of this:


It'd be like this:



Actual interior materials/colors:
http://youtu.be/rEijULWbTfY

Red showing proposed changes:
http://youtu.be/vticTKMwOqk

We'll see, but hopefuly it should be soon...the new company selling Murtayas (Murtay Sports Cars, Ltd.) has done some great jobs on recent cars, and even has a new version of the Murtaya with larger doors...it even sounds like they're going to send another one to California somewhere.......

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Old 08-18-2011, 04:26 PM   #15
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That wrap around look would be cool. Definitely keep us posted! Taking a while but i'm sure the wait will be worth it once it's "completed"
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Old 08-23-2011, 12:26 AM   #16
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Body is painted:









And the custom-made gauge surround for the US-spec gauge cluster:





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Old 08-23-2011, 11:13 AM   #17
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unreal...great looking car!
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:38 AM   #18
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new body finish looks SO much better.
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:44 AM   #19
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:drool: I thought the Murtaya was all but dead.
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:08 PM   #20
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Next step, interior....then final assembly....

Probably just in time for winter.





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Old 09-22-2011, 08:40 PM   #21
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Headlights look way better like that. Your in CO?
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Old 09-23-2011, 12:34 AM   #22
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great progress! Can't wait to see this thing finished!
the covered headlights look 50X better!


Truly one of the most unique builds on this forum!

Have you ever thought of ditching those lame fake m3 side mirrors and getting some F1 style CF mirrors or some flush/rally style mirrors? similar to this:
http://svar0g.no.sapo.pt/Temas/wallp...ru%20txiru.jpg

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Old 09-23-2011, 12:12 PM   #23
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Headlights look way better like that. Your in CO?
Yeah, I had always planned for headlight covers--didn't really like the look of the "naked" eyes. I'm not in CO--I just found the guys to redo the body and interior in Denver, so that's where the car is now.

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great progress! Can't wait to see this thing finished!
the covered headlights look 50X better!


Truly one of the most unique builds on this forum!

Have you ever thought of ditching those lame fake m3 side mirrors and getting some F1 style CF mirrors or some flush/rally style mirrors? similar to this:
http://svar0g.no.sapo.pt/Temas/wallp...ru%20txiru.jpg
To be honest, I actually like the side view mirrors, despite them being generic mirrors. One of the rally Murtayas have the rally style mirrors:

and I'm not that crazy about the look (I think they're kinda stubby....which, granted, is kinda the point of them).

But if you think I'm lame because of my taste in that, then wait until I replace the current wheels (apparently hard-to-find-in-the-US STi Type-R wheels) with something a little less rare and probably even generic looking.

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Old 09-23-2011, 12:33 PM   #24
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Wow awesome build! Super rare and it looks a million times better with all the work you have put into it. Keep it up!
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:47 PM   #25
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Yeah, I had always planned for headlight covers--didn't really like the look of the "naked" eyes.

Mike
I hadn't even considered that they are not standard. Seems like they would be a must. Where I live the lights would definitely need the protection.
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