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Old 10-19-2011, 09:12 PM   #1
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I just started the parts install on the 07 STi. Here's a pic of the parts laid out. Anyone have any advice on problems I might run into that you want to share? This is the first Subaru I've worked on. I installed the fuel pump today.

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Old 10-19-2011, 09:18 PM   #2
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1. Its obvious you do your shopping for car parts at Kmart.
2. Its obvious you are going to run into huge problems as you are buying first, then asking for help, which is the opposite of what you are supposed to do.
3. Its obvious you will be motor shopping very soon as well.
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Old 10-26-2011, 11:08 PM   #3
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1. Its obvious you do your shopping for car parts at Kmart.
Damn, Unabomber. That's a pretty crappy thing to say about so many vendors who pay to advertise on this site.
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:49 PM   #4
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1. Its obvious you do your shopping for car parts at Kmart.
2. Its obvious you are going to run into huge problems as you are buying first, then asking for help, which is the opposite of what you are supposed to do.
3. Its obvious you will be motor shopping very soon as well.
why does he shop at kmart? there's a perrin inlet tube right there that's not from k-mart is it?
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:12 AM   #5
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There was no way the turbo was going in with that perrin intake pipe in the way so I had to take the manifold off. I figured I would do TGV deletes while I'm at it.




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Old 10-19-2011, 09:20 PM   #6
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thanks
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Old 10-27-2011, 01:18 PM   #7
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1. Its obvious you do your shopping for car parts at Kmart.
2. Its obvious you are going to run into huge problems as you are buying first, then asking for help, which is the opposite of what you are supposed to do.
3. Its obvious you will be motor shopping very soon as well.
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thanks
didnt bother to read this whole thread....but has it blowed up yet???
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:24 AM   #8
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didnt bother to read this whole thread....but has it blowed up yet???
Yes it has blowed up and there are kmart parts all strewn across the street
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:34 PM   #9
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The photo that you pro iced os rather uninformative. It doesn't show any of the brands. Plus unabomber is correct in that u should research before you buy. IMO its NEVER a good idea to throw on a ton of parts all at once. Unless pf course you plan on pulling the engine and doing a full build and going over the entire engine. Also your photo as well az your post don't even hint at engine management which makes me agree with unabomber again as in you will be engine shopping sooner than you may hope. Pace yourself when installing major performance parts and do some sort of engine management immediately. Hope this helps
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Old 10-19-2011, 09:43 PM   #10
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Wow, kinda negative comm's. Looks like your gonna wake that car up. Just go about it the right way and TUNE for all those parts appropriately. Hope all goes well bro 👍
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:01 PM   #11
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Hope u don't take my comments as negative. Im all about you putting all those parts on ure car. Just giving some solid advice about engine management. All this parts on ure car with no EM is a recipe for disaster
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:14 PM   #12
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Sorry here's the parts list:

Kinugawa Turbo TD06SL2 Garrett 60-1 8cm with 3” inlet
Innovate Wideband
Prosport Boost/Oil pressure gauges
Walbro fuel pump
Deatschwerks 850cc injectors
Grimmspeed hybrid boost controller setup
k&n filter
3" maf housing
Perrin 3" inlet hose
SSAutochrome FMIC

I will be open source tuning all of this. Of course I researched before I bought everything but keep in mind it was all purchased at Kmart
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:10 PM   #13
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One change and tune at a time is the way to do this...that's a whole lot of gear to throw on, trust, and try to tune for..take it from a guy that tried to do similar, and regretted it.
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:34 PM   #14
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Well it's not that many parts though right? I need the fuel pump and injectors to support the turbo.. the filter/intake/maf are needed to support the additional airflow. It's not like I can put the turbo on and tune.. I need most of the other parts too
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Old 10-26-2011, 11:16 PM   #15
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Well it's not that many parts though right? I need the fuel pump and injectors to support the turbo.. the filter/intake/maf are needed to support the additional airflow. It's not like I can put the turbo on and tune.. I need most of the other parts too
So do the turbo last. I realize I'm a bit late to this party but FWIW, I did things in roughly this order:

* Pump and injectors, then adjust the tune
* intake, then adjust the tune
* FMIC, tune didn't need any adjusting
* up-pipe, down-pipe, mid-pipe, and real tuning this time
* turbo, and more real tuning
* new intake, adjust tune
* new injectors, adjust tune

Tuning costs very little if you DIY. (It just takes a lot of time.) If I had to pay for tuning I'd probably do things a bit differently (up/dp at same time as turbo) but doing a couple things at a time makes it easier to troubleshoot the inevitable problems that come up when you're doing your own work and new to the platform. And for stuff like injectors and intakes, you don't need a whole tune, so a tuner who knows what he's doing can get them done pretty quickly (esp. if he's tune the same parts before) so it shouldn't cost near what a full tune costs.
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Old 10-26-2011, 11:35 PM   #16
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I dont see the problem in doing it all at once. Just take your time pressure test the thing and drive it like a grandma with whatever basemap your tuner gives you to get you from your house to the shop.

Stupid imo to pay for a tune for an intake, then pay for a tune for bigger injectors, then pay for a tune for fmic, then pay for a tune for the turbo. Do it all at once and be patient you should be fine.

But absolutely have money aside for a new block if **** happens.
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Old 10-27-2011, 12:00 AM   #17
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Stupid imo to pay for a tune for an intake, then pay for a tune for bigger injectors, then pay for a tune for fmic, then pay for a tune for the turbo. Do it all at once and be patient you should be fine.
Consider reading the post above yours.
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Old 10-19-2011, 11:41 PM   #18
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I'm not sure if it was previously done, but the TGVs will need to be removed for the 3" turbo inlet to fit.

If you plan to pull the intake manifold off be sure to have new OEM, or similar, gaskets to go back in place.

Boost test the entire FMIC system up to 20psi prior to tuning. You would be surprised at how easily a leak forms where a clamp appears to be tight.

Make sure the turbo gaskets are high quality multi ply units like factory or better:




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Also, can you provide a close up of the oil feed line end on the turbo. I can't tell from the photo if it has banjo fittings on both ends or not. I believe the 2007 STi has the oil feed coming directly from the head with a banjo hose end versus prior years that use a metric (m12?) hose end. It has been a while so I can't recall for certain, but poking around under the hood prior to pulling off your current turbo will answer this.

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Old 10-19-2011, 11:51 PM   #20
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I'm not sure if it was previously done, but the TGVs will need to be removed for the 3" turbo inlet to fit.

If you plan to pull the intake manifold off be sure to have new OEM, or similar, gaskets to go back in place.

Boost test the entire FMIC system up to 20psi prior to tuning. You would be surprised at how easily a leak forms where a clamp appears to be tight.

Make sure the turbo gaskets are high quality multi ply units like factory or better:




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No I have not done anything to the TGV, I was under the assumption that this was an internal mod so how would this effect what intake can be installed?


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Also, can you provide a close up of the oil feed line end on the turbo. I can't tell from the photo if it has banjo fittings on both ends or not. I believe the 2007 STi has the oil feed coming directly from the head with a banjo hose end versus prior years that use a metric (m12?) hose end. It has been a while so I can't recall for certain, but poking around under the hood prior to pulling off your current turbo will answer this.

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Okay thanks I will get the pics up tomorrow.
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:04 AM   #21
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I'd double check with the turbo supplier prior to install. In this photo you will see a 3" turbo (atp 3076) w/ 3" perrin turbo inlet hose. It was a major pain to fit in there and it would not have fit with the TGV sensor in place. I.E. the TGV sensor has been removed. This is on a 2006 STi, but on the 2007 there is no sensor, rather a bump where it was (plate and 2 screws). I'm not sure if that bump will impede fitment or not.





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Old 10-20-2011, 12:07 AM   #22
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One more borrowed photo showing the Manifold risers from 2007 sti:


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Old 10-21-2011, 01:06 AM   #23
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tgv deletes, being an 07 there is no difference in physical size the motors are on the front of the tgv housing on the passenger side, but fitment is very very tight, so add time to your list of things, and also. what clutch are you on? dont think your oem clutch with alot of miles will be holding this, especially if youre launching the car, oh and cutting the bumper, be very patient.. it will pay off in the end, t bolt calmps? i dont know to much about SSAC but.. if my aps kit didnt come with them, i dont think the half price option does, good investment. some low end parts if you ask me.. hopfully they all work out for you. remove the screen filter inside the banjo bolt for your turbo oil supply. im imagining that was all purchased on ebay? well hopefully you make some good results. i just went fp red on my 07.
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Old 10-23-2011, 10:47 AM   #24
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tgv deletes, being an 07 there is no difference in physical size the motors are on the front of the tgv housing on the passenger side, but fitment is very very tight, so add time to your list of things, and also. what clutch are you on? dont think your oem clutch with alot of miles will be holding this, especially if youre launching the car, oh and cutting the bumper, be very patient.. it will pay off in the end, t bolt calmps? i dont know to much about SSAC but.. if my aps kit didnt come with them, i dont think the half price option does, good investment. some low end parts if you ask me.. hopfully they all work out for you. remove the screen filter inside the banjo bolt for your turbo oil supply. im imagining that was all purchased on ebay? well hopefully you make some good results. i just went fp red on my 07.
It's got the stock clutch with 70k miles on it as far as I know. I guess I'll see how it holds up. Bumper is already cut and intercooler is mounted. The kit came with t bolt clamps so it's all good. Yes most parts were purchased on ebay but I have had very good results with ebay intercooler kits on other vehicles.



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Old 10-21-2011, 01:09 AM   #25
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oh and about the tgv's.. imho you already half assed on cheap parts.. but in anycase wait the 1 week turn around for your tgv's to be deleted thru grimmspeed or what ever option you choose. dont think ebay does the deletes.. anywho you will see some good gains by getting them done and it would be stupid to not do them now.
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