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Old 11-02-2011, 03:51 PM   #1
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Default AEM's new Infinity-10 Standalone



AEM just came out with this new stand alone. If you guys have any questions about it, feel free to ask

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Old 11-02-2011, 05:39 PM   #2
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Can i test one for you? Im still looking for an EM for my project car

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2151066

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Old 11-02-2011, 10:00 PM   #3
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interesting, a lot of features some good ECU's have. wonder how the knock control will be. also wonder if the "anti lag" is a real rally style antilag or just what everyoen call sit
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Old 11-03-2011, 11:33 AM   #4
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how much?
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Old 11-03-2011, 04:57 PM   #5
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They start around $2300 retail
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Old 11-03-2011, 08:10 PM   #6
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holy ****, a proefi 128 is only 2000 and IMO is a way better unit (only one id run) and the proefi 48 is 1000 and STILL better than an aem v1 and v2. this better be a miracle ecu...
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Old 11-05-2011, 01:55 PM   #7
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It looks like the AEM Infinity will have all the hotness everyone needs. AFR Limit, Flex Fuel, and it will be fast. All new hardware not using the old tech used to build the Series 1 and 2 Units. I am pretty sure that this will be the future of AEM Standalones.

I have both a Series 1 and Series 2. I think they are both fantastic units. I have had very good luck with them on my Galant, Evo, and STI. I would love to try this new one out on the Evo. Since I have a Series 1 on the Evo, it woudl be a nice upgrade.

2300 sounds like a fair price if it is as awesome as it looks. The ProEFI 48 does not have a lot of stuff(Knock Control), so the 128 is really the only option if going ProEFI. I looked into them also.

The proefi forums dont really offer very much help, at least the AEM Forums have been around for a long time so most of the time there is an anwer there.

Just My take on it.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:21 PM   #8
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yeah i forgot the pro48 didnt have knock control. but the 128 is less than 2k...at least for me if i order it through my buds at sound performance.


BUT it is a PITA to get a proefi working on our subarus. so lets hope this dosnt have that issue.
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Old 11-08-2011, 04:10 PM   #9
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yeah i forgot the pro48 didnt have knock control. but the 128 is less than 2k...at least for me if i order it through my buds at sound performance.


BUT it is a PITA to get a proefi working on our subarus. so lets hope this dosnt have that issue.
The $2300 price is MSRP. The current Series 2 EMS retails for $2275 and it is sold for much less street price.
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Old 11-08-2011, 06:43 PM   #10
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The $2300 price is MSRP. The current Series 2 EMS retails for $2275 and it is sold for much less street price.

http://www.spracingonline.com/store/...ro128_ECU/3739
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:06 PM   #11
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Looks like a nice unit. I'm perfectly content running the factory ECU in my race car. I'm still waiting for AEM, Haltech, ViPec, etc to offer an affordable alternative to the Motec PDM so I can clean up the wiring and switches throughout the rest of the car.
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Old 11-08-2011, 05:04 PM   #12
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** opens up trenchcoat **

"what u need what u need....i gots this infinity-10 chit....$1800...$1800....alright $1600 $1600...this is that new chit man"
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Old 11-08-2011, 06:54 PM   #13
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^^ you cant publicly advertise "street price".....all products in retail have a MAP...Minimum Advertised Price. If you advertise the product for less, the manufacturer will drop you as a reseller.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:52 AM   #14
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thatll be the day SP gets dropped from selling proefi's. next to proefi themself they are the biggest seller and tuner of em.
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Old 11-09-2011, 12:34 PM   #15
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and heres one for cheaper

http://www.theboostlab.com/store/cat...s/Pro-EFI/ECU/

I guarantee you that neither of these are below the MAP. If they are, then pro efi just must not care. Selling products below the MAP just drives the price down, then there is no point in even selling a $1700 product if everyone drives the price down and you only make $5 profit. Its in ALL resellers interests to honor the MAP....or they're just screwing themselves. If the profit margin gets too low, then no one will carry the unit...then ProEfi wont sell as many....so its pretty much a guarantee that those prices arent below the MAP.
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:20 PM   #16
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so why did you even bring it up? lol
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Old 11-09-2011, 01:40 PM   #17
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I was trying to explain to you that the price on their website is not "street price" just like the aem price is not street price....because the other dude said u can get them for much cheaper....and he's correct

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Old 11-09-2011, 09:02 PM   #18
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Even if you have to buy one at full retail it's a hell of a deal. The ProEFI is a great comparison, however keep in mind it lacks internal logging. The Infinity/Motec and ProEfi all offer advance tuners the ability to create their own tables to make tuning changes, so there is a lot of room in these advanced systems for creative minds. Because of Infinity's processor speed things like knock control resolution are more limited to crank pick up teeth than ECU speed. As far as powertrain protection this ECU is on a OE level with all the fun stuff aftermarket tuners want. The "flowchart" of Ifs/ands with this ecu is as simple or complex as the tuner sets it up to be. I've got some time tonight to spend with the software and I'll post up the notable things I see.

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Old 11-10-2011, 12:54 AM   #19
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I was trying to explain to you that the price on their website is not "street price" just like the aem price is not street price....because the other dude said u can get them for much cheaper....and he's correct
i am just confused by this "street price" do you mean cost? because thats what i get everything at from sp.
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Old 11-10-2011, 08:36 AM   #20
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i am just confused by this "street price" do you mean cost? because thats what i get everything at from sp.
"Street Price" is the price the item ends up selling to any Tom, Dick or Harry that decides to buy one when it comes out for sale. If it is lower than the MAP set by the manufacturer (which is lower than the MSRP), it will not be posted publicly, and vendors will require you to PM them privately for a price. If the advertised price is higher than the MAP, the price will be posted publicly.

With time, you will notice the price come down, and eventually advertisers will stop posting the price when the 'going rate' of the product falls below the MAP set by the manufacturer.

SP's and the other vendor's posted prices for the ProEFI are likely above ProEFI's MAP pricing for the unit. With time, you may see other advertisers pop out with ProEFI for sale at an even lower publicly advertised street price which is above the MAP. Once the selling price drops below that MAP set by Proefi, they will require you to PM/email them for pricing.

Have a look in the vendor's classifieds, and you can see this practice in action for yourself.

Take an imaginary example of a Ferrari 458 Italia for sale...

Ferrari have an MSRP on the car (say 300K for all time's sake), which the market may not support, so the car traditionally sells for 20K less than MSRP (i.e. 280K).

Ferrari may have a MAP of 30K less than MSRP on the car, so dealers cannot publicly advertise pricing less than 270K even if market demand dictates that the cars are commonly exchanging hands for the same price as a Nissan Versa.

This is because if Ferrari dealers start advertising Italia's for sale at 16K, Ferrari will have trouble asking people for 1.6million dollars for their next model. At that point, nobody makes any profit.

The MAP model is in place to protect the profits of everyone in the supply chain from the manufacturer to the seller.

See how it works?
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lol....nevermind then
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got it

so buying something at cost =/= street price?
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Old 11-10-2011, 11:01 AM   #23
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Cost is a relative term anyway. Many places have tiered pricing structures. If I go get an account with proefi and buy 5 units, my cost per unit will be greater than SP's cost per unit since they bought 100 units, and both of those are significantly higher than proefi's cost to manufacture it.

Also, if someone pays in cash....cost is different. If I don't have to get jacked 3% paypal or cc fees and I don't have to pay 7% tax since the transaction can't be tracked.....then my "cost" went down 10%.

It's highly unlikely that they are actually selling u stuff at their cost. U can't run a business like that and stay in business for very long.

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Old 11-10-2011, 01:36 PM   #24
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only reason i do is because im good friends with the owner and parts guy there, and they wanted me to get one on my WRX
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I excited for this ecu as well. Tried to do a search for more information on it and the best I could come up with was this:

http://www.enginebasics.com/EFI%20Tu...ity%20ECU.html
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