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Old 03-21-2012, 07:34 PM   #1
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Default FR-S will start at $24.2K

I know it's just Jalopnik, but cited document may be legit?

http://jalopnik.com/5895358/the-scio...0?tag=scionfrs

Who still wants one?
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:33 PM   #2
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:37 PM   #3
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Wasn't the car suppose to be under $20K?
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:40 PM   #4
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Wasn't the car suppose to be under $20K?
Ummmm, no. All conjecture I ever saw seemed to hover around mid 20's.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:46 PM   #5
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It's hard to buy a Civic for <$20k now. I doubt something that people actually want to buy would be in that price range.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:48 PM   #6
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It's hard to buy a Civic for <$20k now. I doubt something that people actually want to buy would be in that price range.

The MSRP on the civic is $15.8k... and they aren't selling because they're crap. I'm sure you can pick one up for $14k tomorrow if you really want one.
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Old 03-21-2012, 10:46 PM   #7
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The MSRP on the civic is $15.8k... and they aren't selling because they're crap. I'm sure you can pick one up for $14k tomorrow if you really want one.
I think he's saying a 200hp Civic Si is over $20K so why wouldn't a 200hp RWD sports car be a bit more?
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:33 PM   #8
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The MSRP on the civic is $15.8k... and they aren't selling because they're crap. I'm sure you can pick one up for $14k tomorrow if you really want one.
You can't buy a new Civic for $14k. They aren't selling, but they're still not really discounted. New ones range from $15,897 (4 door manual DX) to $23,701 (4 door Si w Nav.) http://www.truecar.com/prices-new/ho...sedan-pricing/

You're taking it literally anyway; the comparison was that you can't buy much of anything other than a pile of crap for less than $20k now. Cars are expensive in general. <$30k for one of these things is a steal IMHO.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:46 PM   #9
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Ummmm, no. All conjecture I ever saw seemed to hover around mid 20's.
Ummm.. yeah, actually.

There was talk, from Toyota and Subaru, about the car costing less than $20k back when we were only seeing spy shots of development mules.


There was also talk of it having 160-180hp and weighing 2500lbs as well.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:02 PM   #10
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Wasn't the car suppose to be under $20K?
no way. Under $20k for a car like that. It would put Civics and corollas out of sales.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:26 PM   #11
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no way. Under $20k for a car like that. It would put Civics and corollas out of sales.
I don't see a lot of people cross-shopping the Corolla and the FR-S.

.. and stealing Civic SI sales from Honda is precisely what they should be doing.
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Old 03-22-2012, 01:01 PM   #12
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This reminds me of fragmented office conversations between several people after which people are trying to figure out the source of some "fact" only to find out that the "source" was really a question...

"Is so and so coming in on Friday?" evolves over time into, "So and so is taking a 6 month sabbatical to Papa New Guinea"

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Old 03-22-2012, 02:09 PM   #13
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This reminds me of fragmented office conversations between several people after which people are trying to figure out the source of some "fact" only to find out that the "source" was really a question...

"Is so and so coming in on Friday?" evolves over time into, "So and so is taking a 6 month sabbatical to Papa New Guinea"
Originally 5 years ago or so Subaru said there target was the very young crowd and said their target price was under 20K. I was planning on purchasing one because of that, but as the delays mounted and the the car gained features and horsepower Subaru hinted at a higher cost. The 18K estimate did not seem to last to long but that was the original idea, 18K or so, 2500 pounds and 180 hp.
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Old 03-21-2012, 08:38 PM   #14
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I still want one.. but I just refuse to pay that much for it.

A reminder.. Scion does no-haggle pricing. The BRZ's invoice should be higher still (due to the extra content) which means the BRZ's MSRP is going to be much higher.
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Old 03-21-2012, 09:28 PM   #15
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I still want one.. but I just refuse to pay that much for it.

A reminder.. Scion does no-haggle pricing. The BRZ's invoice should be higher still (due to the extra content) which means the BRZ's MSRP is going to be much higher.
The BRZ has a ton of standard equipment that the FRS does not. After seeing this figure I'd bet the BRZ will be hard to get on the road for under 30K.
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Old 03-22-2012, 10:54 AM   #16
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I still want one.. but I just refuse to pay that much for it.

A reminder.. Scion does no-haggle pricing. The BRZ's invoice should be higher still (due to the extra content) which means the BRZ's MSRP is going to be much higher.
They do no-haggle just like Saturn did no-haggle. It's the same as working with any dealership/salesman.
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Old 03-21-2012, 11:19 PM   #17
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I'm pretty sure I read it was supposed to be priced around 20k as well. A work buddy of mine told me his friend put a deposit on a brz, and is paying 30k for it.
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Old 03-22-2012, 12:03 AM   #18
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A few posts in and we're already discussing everything from $15k-$30k. Hello News & Rumors.
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Old 03-22-2012, 10:29 AM   #19
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A few posts in and we're already discussing everything from $15k-$30k. Hello News & Rumors.
A used S2000 would be a much better buy. trolllolol

BRZ really doesn't have THAT much more than the FRS. Really just the standard NAV....i'm still expecting a little over 25 for the premium and maybe another 2k for the limited.
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Old 03-22-2012, 11:22 AM   #20
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A used S2000 would be a much better buy. trolllolol

BRZ really doesn't have THAT much more than the FRS. Really just the standard NAV....i'm still expecting a little over 25 for the premium and maybe another 2k for the limited.
Nav, HIDs and Subaru's claimed exclusivity.
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Old 03-22-2012, 01:44 AM   #21
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It's been known for a long time this was NOT going to be a sub-20K car.
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Old 03-22-2012, 01:50 AM   #22
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It's been known for a long time this was NOT going to be a sub-20K car.
I thought I made it clear with my post that the sub-$20k price was for a car with different specs very early in development.
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Old 03-22-2012, 10:21 AM   #23
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It's about $3000 overpriced IMO. Unless it comes pretty well equiped.

Even if that's the case I would still rather have a cheaper stripper version.


You can get a Juke for $19,900 and that comes with AWD, or a Veloster for $18,000 (turbo is rumored at $21k-$22k).
Granted these are completely different cars, but noone except enthusiasts are going to know how different they are.

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Old 03-22-2012, 02:06 PM   #24
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It's about $3000 overpriced IMO. Unless it comes pretty well equiped.

Even if that's the case I would still rather have a cheaper stripper version.


You can get a Juke for $19,900 and that comes with AWD, or a Veloster for $18,000 (turbo is rumored at $21k-$22k).
Granted these are completely different cars, but noone except enthusiasts are going to know how different they are.
This car is geared towards enthusiasts, so who cares about everyone else.

And I can guarantee most people can discern between a little hatchback, a little SOV, and a 2 door sports car. That's like saying most people can't tell the difference between a miata and a murano convertible.
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And I can guarantee most people can discern between a little hatchback, a little SOV, and a 2 door sports car. That's like saying most people can't tell the difference between a miata and a murano convertible.
I think you give the general public too much credit.
Yes, they can see that the cars all look different, but they will also lump them into a category based on size, power, and engine size.

Pop over to the BRZ thread or Edmunds (straightline blog) and look at how many people are comparing this car to the V6 Mustang and Camaro, and the only thing it has in common with them is they all happen to be RWD.

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