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Old 06-26-2012, 09:14 PM   #1
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Default 2013 A3 Sedan, 300HP S3, diesel to come to US in December

Been following the development of this for a while, was shocked not to see a thread in N&R.



Latest article on the topic from MT:

http://www.motortrend.com/features/a..._s_market_a3s/

Seems that I am not the only one who misses the older smaller A4. The A3 sedan should slot in right where it lived before Audi pulled the ever-popular "bloat the whole lineup up a notch" maneuver.

MT is reporting not only a 1.8L, but also a 2.0 gas, diesel...and 300HP S3 and possible 2.5L RS3 in 2015.

If these models are available with quattro and manual transmissions, it finally seems like there is a viable option for someone like me who wants a nicer AWD sedan to move up to, without getting into something huge and oversized for the typical american fat*ss.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:22 PM   #2
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Let us only hope, I would like to see the price tag on the AWD 2.0
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:03 AM   #3
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Is the engine mounted longitudinally or transverse?
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:55 AM   #4
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Well its built on the MQB platform, which stands for "Modularer Querbaukasten" or "Modular Transverse Matrix" as a replacement for the PQ35.
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Old 06-27-2012, 10:26 AM   #5
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hope it will be around the size of the 1st gen A4
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:23 AM   #6
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Let's see about the availability of a diesel which has been threatened for the A4 in the next year or so.
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:14 PM   #7
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Price point? starting at $40k I'd imagine.

I too would love a more mature AWD sedan to step up to.
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:24 PM   #8
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Why can't these German companies offer AWD and diesel here? I'd sit on plastic for that.
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:36 PM   #9
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It would have to slot between the A3's $27,270 and the A4's $32,500.

Of course if we are speaking of the more potent S cars then my guess would be a starting price of $43,500 for an S3 sedan.

I would be most interested.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:31 PM   #10
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Why can't these German companies offer AWD and diesel here? I'd sit on plastic for that.
Youre not the only one, what my fiance and I wouldn't give for these...





(yeah that a manual transmission diesel SUV)
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Old 03-28-2013, 11:52 PM   #11
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Why can't these German companies offer AWD and diesel here? I'd sit on plastic for that.
If there's a quattro A3 TDI, will I be seeing you at Audi meets?

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Old 03-29-2013, 08:43 PM   #12
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If there's a quattro A3 TDI, will I be seeing you at Audi meets?

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Hey Dennis! long time no see.

Short answer is no. Actually having experienced the joy of owning an actual Jetta in the past* I very much doubt I will partake in the VWAG experience again any time soon. I have a friend who's a long-time Audi owner who keeps trying to convince me I need a CPO Q7 TDI, but I think he's just trying to get referral money from his sales buddies.


* I bought said Jetta at Holcombe Motor Company. You may remember them.
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Old 04-01-2013, 11:34 AM   #13
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Hey Dennis! long time no see.

Short answer is no. Actually having experienced the joy of owning an actual Jetta in the past* I very much doubt I will partake in the VWAG experience again any time soon. I have a friend who's a long-time Audi owner who keeps trying to convince me I need a CPO Q7 TDI, but I think he's just trying to get referral money from his sales buddies.

* I bought said Jetta at Holcombe Motor Company. You may remember them.
Oh yeah, I remember your problems. My wife replaced her 99 Outback with a 2011 3.2 Q5 S Line after nearly falling asleep test driving the '11 H6 Outback. The interior in the OB wasn't even as nice as her '99. She get's 6% off in the Supplier program through her job. Oddly enough, her Q5 has made less trips to the dealer than any of our Subaru's and only for scheduled maintenance.

I can see myself possibly getting an S3 in a few years and keeping the FXT as a beater.

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Old 04-01-2013, 02:34 PM   #14
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Oh yeah, I remember your problems. My wife replaced her 99 Outback with a 2011 3.2 Q5 S Line after nearly falling asleep test driving the '11 H6 Outback. The interior in the OB wasn't even as nice as her '99. She get's 6% off in the Supplier program through her job. Oddly enough, her Q5 has made less trips to the dealer than any of our Subaru's and only for scheduled maintenance.

I can see myself possibly getting an S3 in a few years and keeping the FXT as a beater.

-Dennis
Nicely done. My FXT is approaching beater status as well. I'll have to drop you a line soon.
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Old 06-27-2012, 01:55 PM   #15
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Whoopie...

A transverse alternative A4...

A Jetta for Audi.


WHERE IS THE QUATTRO SPORT COUPE???? ON THE PROPER LONGITUDINAL DRIVELINE!!!
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:22 PM   #16
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A smaller A4, which has grown to boat-size in my opinion...nothing like it used to be.

Keep the quatto, offer a diesel and a manual and they can take my money. Id even be interested in the S3. Its a handsome car in concept form, well proportioned.

I honestly think this slots right in the market, as there is nothing that could touch it, especially if it had a diesel.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:49 PM   #17
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The RS3 would be nice but so far none of those type 3 series have hit these shores. I'm hoping the new STi will be the quickest and fastest to date?!
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:57 PM   #18
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I can't wait to see what happens with this car. The first thing I thought of when I found out that the A3 was coming to the United States was that it would be right where the A4 would be before it got huge. Granted, the A4 looks awesome now, but I think it's just a bit too big for me.
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S3 would be awesome, always wanted one.

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Given trends probably will be the heaviest and most nanny to date.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:22 AM   #20
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http://www.autoblog.com/2013/03/26/a...new-york-2013/


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This heartier version of the new smaller notchback sedan from Ingolstadt is set to launch in western Europe as of December this year (after the A3 sedan in September), and US deliveries will begin during summer 2014. Talking with Audi experts at this little get-together and shoving some numbers around, the (technically speaking) 2015 Audi S3 sedan should start at right near $39,000. US S3 sedans come standard with a sunroof, 18-inch wheels, full leather, Sirius satellite radio, the three-spoke sport steering wheel with shift paddles for the also-standard six-speed S-tronic, and fully automated adjustable sport seats. Unfortunately, no six-speed manual shifting will be offered.

Propelled by the ubiquitous 2.0-liter TFSI engine, the S3 sedan with six-speed S-tronic should reach 60 miles per hour from a stop in 4.7 seconds. The unit here is tuned to produce 296 SAE horsepower and 280 pound-feet of torque, putting it square between the TTS tune and that of the supercharged-V6 S4. Quattro all-wheel drive comes on all S3 sedans and the engine sits beneath a fully redesigned hood with two clean creases running the length on either side.
$39k to start although a tad light in HP compared to the CLA45 AMG.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:27 AM   #21
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1 series fighter for sure...me likey.
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:19 AM   #22
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AWD Diesel A3 or bust.
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no manual will be offered...

FU Audi and your 54000 dollar S3 HA HA.

Also to all those bitching about a transverse engine, the EVO X seems to have NO issues mopping the floor with all cars anywhere near its price range in terms of performance...

so engine configuration is not nearly as important as Engineering
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no manual will be offered...
Yeah I cried a little.

Honestly I would rather have the S3 wagon anyways.
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no manual will be offered...

FU Audi and your 54000 dollar S3 HA HA.

Also to all those bitching about a transverse engine, the EVO X seems to have NO issues mopping the floor with all cars anywhere near its price range in terms of performance...

so engine configuration is not nearly as important as Engineering
This is quite common. Advancements in "active" technology means a lot of AWD systems are "on-demand" these days. Use a FWD platform with a power transfer unit to send power to a rear coupling. When AWD is needed the rear coupling is engaged and does it's job. When AWD is not needed you are a FWD car with less driveline drag and better fuel economy.

The Evo has not been unique for a very long time. I'm pretty sure every GM car and crossover with an AWD system uses a similar configuration, and has for the last 10 years. I believe Ford use a similar configuration for their AWD systems. To the best of my knowledge the Land Rover Evoque will also use a transverse engine and on-demand AWD system in the latest revision due to start production in September.
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