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Old 09-16-2012, 11:34 AM   #1
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Default 2012 2.0i CVT "L" position on shifter

What does it even do? The manual is a complete lie, it says it's for when you need faster acceleration or going uphill. I was at a HPDE yesterday and there was NO difference between drive and low. The RPM hangs at about 6500 either way, the 0-60 is the same either way. The response time (IE taking 2 seconds to actually do anything after you put your foot down) is the same as well.

So does anyone know what this REALLY does?

Side note: does it annoy anyone else that there is ZERO noise insulation on this car? I have my music almost all the way down and my friends say stuff like "you sound like a douche with your music that loud". There's almost no difference between the door being closed and open.
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Old 09-16-2012, 07:53 PM   #2
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Maybe the manual is correct and your reading of the same is not. The "L" is "LOW-GEAR". If you are forcing the RPMs in the 6k+ region, that may be problematic. The "L" setting is not going to give you additional acceleration; but rather will help in low traction situations that is what it is for.

As to your 2 second comment. It takes a bit of time for the CVT to switch from REVERSE to DRIVE - it's just the way that the CVT works for this car.

I have the limited Sport and don't have anyone calling me a "douche". AND that is with the huge sub-woofer. Maybe you're "almost all the way down" is the same as my "mid range" setting.

Last thought - this is not a BMW 3 Series Automobile. It is also not a High Performance Car - HPDE tests would not be germane or relevant, be confident that you will be disappointed, if you think that the 2012 Impreza is a high performance automobile.

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Old 09-17-2012, 04:45 PM   #3
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Maybe the manual is correct and your reading of the same is not. The "L" is "LOW-GEAR". If you are forcing the RPMs in the 6k+ region, that may be problematic. The "L" setting is not going to give you additional acceleration; but rather will help in low traction situations that is what it is for.

As to your 2 second comment. It takes a bit of time for the CVT to switch from REVERSE to DRIVE - it's just the way that the CVT works for this car.

I have the limited Sport and don't have anyone calling me a "douche". AND that is with the huge sub-woofer. Maybe you're "almost all the way down" is the same as my "mid range" setting.

Last thought - this is not a BMW 3 Series Automobile. It is also not a High Performance Car - HPDE tests would not be germane or relevant, be confident that you will be disappointed, if you think that the 2012 Impreza is a high performance automobile.

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http://techinfo.subaru.com/proxy/660...BE-Ball_16.pdf 7-22...
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“L” is used when power is needed for rapid
acceleration or for uphill driving. To select
this mode, move the selector lever from
the “D” position to the “L” position.
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, the transmission shifts up at
higher engine speeds and shifts down
more responsively than when driving in
the “D” position.
Also I didn't complain about the HPDE did I? It was great. The stock tires have great traction despite being as durable as a potato. Anyway, my guess is on the L mode is it just enables people that are too much of a ***** to WOT it. Probably still the same maximum RPM, just gets to it faster.
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Old 09-17-2012, 06:24 PM   #4
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http://techinfo.subaru.com/proxy/660...BE-Ball_16.pdf 7-22...


Also I didn't complain about the HPDE did I? It was great. The stock tires have great traction despite being as durable as a potato. Anyway, my guess is on the L mode is it just enables people that are too much of a ***** to WOT it. Probably still the same maximum RPM, just gets to it faster.
I have no idea what you're talking about, but it seems that you expected "L" to remove the rev limiter.
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:17 PM   #5
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I have no idea what you're talking about, but it seems that you expected "L" to remove the rev limiter.
A little hammered after a long day at work, are we?
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:19 PM   #6
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A little hammered after a long day at work, are we?
Sorry, I don't know what this means: "Anyway, my guess is on the L mode is it just enables people that are too much of a ***** to WOT it."

L mode enables people that are too much of a ***** to WOT it...? Enables people to do what? To hit WOT without actually pushing the accelerator to the floor? Are you suggesting that L mode opens the throttle 100% with less throttle input than in normal mode?

And this part: "Probably still the same maximum RPM, just gets to it faster." Your original post and this quote made me think that you thought that L mode would raise the rev limiter or something.


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Old 09-16-2012, 07:58 PM   #7
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Err...if your CVT is revving at 6500rpm, there isn't much more the engine can give. The cool thing about computerized cars is that they have safeguards to keep the driver from forcing the car to do something which would damage it. I know you'd like to rev to 8k, but your car would not like that.

Oh, as to the road noise complaint. How about we trade cars for a minute. My '99 Impreza will make yours seem as silent as a tomb.
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Old 09-17-2012, 03:48 PM   #8
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silent as a tomb.
lol never heard that before. No pun intended.



I test drove a '11 before the '12 and the engine noise in the cabin was night and day. I realize thats not what your talking about but it seems that the '12 impreza has improved on isolating the cabin.

Not sure about "L" as i have manual mode. But sounds like 6K rpm isnt how the car was meant to be driven. unless you drive because racecar.
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Old 09-17-2012, 03:49 PM   #9
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My '12 Impreza is way louder (road noise, etc) than my '10 Legacy was. When my radio is off, it is a little distracting to me. That's why I turn the radio up.

Tell your friends it takes a weeping vagina to accurately recognize a douche in their midst...
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Old 09-17-2012, 03:53 PM   #10
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True, im sure your friends were just being dramatic. I dont think the stock speakers can make you sound like a douche without blowing out.
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Old 09-17-2012, 04:43 PM   #11
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True, im sure your friends were just being dramatic. I dont think the stock speakers can make you sound like a douche without blowing out.
Let's try something for a minute. Go park it at the end of your driveway. Turn the music on to what you would consider to be on the high end of everyday listening. Close your doors. Walk away. I'd bet you can make out words over 100 feet away on a quiet night. 4x longer than the distance that you get a ticket at in most states.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:03 AM   #12
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it seems like you wanted "L" to stand for "SPORT". you mentioned "The RPM hangs at about 6500 either way". what did you expect, to continue to rev? for what to blow the engine? i have seen and help put together a race engine. this engine doesn't seem to be able to handle more revs nor will it make any more power. the car is an AUTOMATIC/CVT. not a manual. "L" isn't some magical gear selector that will drastically change the engine, giving it better throttle response, more power, more torque, higher rev limiter, etc. even in the sport prem, the car will shift right before redline. i mean this an economy car, what were you expecting? "L" was designed for the base model to get the car out of a rut (snow, mud, etc.) not HPDE.

on a side note, the only reason i bought this over a wrx is the fact that i do have a track prep car parked in a garage. this car isn't going to be a can full of joy and excitement.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:25 AM   #13
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What volume level do you guys play your music at? I have mine on 25 but then again I have upgraded Kicker tweeters and upgraded Kicker KS60 speakers.
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What volume level do you guys play your music at? I have mine on 25 but then again I have upgraded Kicker tweeters and upgraded Kicker KS60 speakers.
Depends on the music being played and the source. Normal AM/FM needs a higher volume that the HD FM, CD, or digital inputs. I also have the upgraded Kicker speakers and subwoofer. 25 is sometimes too loud and I am somewhat deaf (getting old, or maybe already there).
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Depends on the music being played and the source. Normal AM/FM needs a higher volume that the HD FM, CD, or digital inputs. I also have the upgraded Kicker speakers and subwoofer. 25 is sometimes too loud and I am somewhat deaf (getting old, or maybe already there).
I play music off my USB key, the volume for the tracks are normalized at 90 db.
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Old 09-25-2012, 08:05 PM   #16
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HAHA **** YOU ALL
I got it up to 6750RPM on L today and it sticks at 6000 or less in D.

Before you reply: I don't care. It's my car, piss off and go live your own life.
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HAHA **** YOU ALL
I got it up to 6750RPM on L today and it sticks at 6000 or less in D.

Before you reply: I don't care. It's my car, piss off and go live your own life.
way to go for being mature. you are the one that came here with the problem.
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way to go for being mature. you are the one that came here with the problem.
I was going to reply but then decided against feeding the troll.
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HAHA **** YOU ALL
I got it up to 6750RPM on L today and it sticks at 6000 or less in D.
You broke it. You said you could get it to 6500 in both D and L in your first post. Now you can only get it to 6000 or less in D? Yup, you broke it.
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HAHA **** YOU ALL
I got it up to 6750RPM on L today and it sticks at 6000 or less in D.

Before you reply: I don't care. It's my car, piss off and go live your own life.
So you come in here, looking for an answer to a stupid question, then get pissed when you get called on it? Not to mention that if you keep "driving" (and I use that term very loosely) the car this way you WILL break something (when, not if).
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HAHA **** YOU ALL
I got it up to 6750RPM on L today and it sticks at 6000 or less in D.
You spent way too much time on this bud. It's just like an automatic. What "L" effectively does is cut out the top gear (yes I know it's a CVT) so that upon going uphill or in say a heap of snow, you can power the car up said hill or through said snow. In D it's not gonna hit 6750 because you're not at top speed. In L you will hit 6750 or whatever the rev limit is because you're at the top speed in that "gear" (Again I know it's a CVT)

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You bought the wrong car. What you have there is the "L"esbian model. Those are usually only found in Oregon.
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my friends say stuff like "you sound like a douche...
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Old 09-28-2012, 03:54 PM   #24
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So does traction control do anything at all? Sometimes when I'm bored and I know there's no one that I might hit I'll go pretty fast around a corner, and I can WOT if I want to while having no traction. I thought traction control was supposed to remove power from you when you act like a retard... even if it is AWD.
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So does traction control do anything at all? Sometimes when I'm bored and I know there's no one that I might hit I'll go pretty fast around a corner, and I can WOT if I want to while having no traction. I thought traction control was supposed to remove power from you when you act like a retard... even if it is AWD.
"my friends say stuff like "you sound like a douche..."
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