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Old 10-02-2012, 12:18 PM   #1
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Default Formula 1 2012 - Round 15: Japanese Grand Prix



After dominating the three races prior to round 14 in Singapore, and then locking out pole position, Mclaren looked poised to score a fourth win on the trot. Lewis Hamilton's gearbox failed while he was leading, though, and Jenson Button will be taking a 5-place grid penalty in Suzuka for a nearly identical problem which required his gearbox to be replaced prior to this race. lewis Hamilton suffered a gearbox failure here last year, but managed to finish the race.

Michael Schumacher's future hangs in limbo after Mercedes announced Lewis Hamilton will be replacing him there next year. Schumi has also earned a 10-spot grid penalty for running into the back of Jean-Eric Vergne during the last race.

Fernando Alonso continues to lead the driver's championship over his nearest rival Sebastian Vettel, who remains 29 points adrift. His teammate for next year has yet to be announced, with some rumors suggesting Michael Schumacher could be in line to replace Felipe Massa. Is there anyone on the market who could even compete with Fernando?

RBR extended their lead slightly in the constructor's championship after Vettel's Singapore win. Mark Webber's sole earned point was taken away after a 20-second time penalty was added for overtaking outside the track limits. Look for RBR to be strong here.

Sauber's Sergio Perez has emphatically outshone his Japanese teammate this season and is moving to the vacated Mclaren seat next year. He'll be looking to continue his strong form, while Kamui Kobayashi will want to put on a good show for the home crowd.

Driver Standings:

01 Fernando Alonso 194
02 Sebastian Vettel 165
03 Kimi Räikkönen 149
04 Lewis Hamilton 142
05 Mark Webber 132
06 Jenson Button 119
07 Nico Rosberg 93
08 Romain Grosjean 82

Constructor Standings:

01 Red Bull Racing-Renault 297
02 McLaren-Mercedes 261
03 Ferrari 245
04 Lotus-Renault 231
05 Mercedes 136
06 Sauber-Ferrari 101
07 Force India-Mercedes 75
08 Williams-Renault 54


Side note: Kimi Raikkonen's record lap here was set the year he charged from 17th to first place during the race.

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Old 10-02-2012, 12:20 PM   #2
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ninja IBtoosoon lol

i cant believe mclaren is only 4th and 6th in the championship at this point with such a strong car (that breaks and lost a bunch of points in pitstop snafus early in the year). starting to remind me of '05 with the broken car syndrome.
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Old 10-02-2012, 12:55 PM   #3
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Kimi's front suspension asploding from vibrations didn't help that year either.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:50 PM   #4
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Kimi's front suspension asploding from vibrations didn't help that year either.
that was Kimi's fault. He flat spotted causing the vibrations.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:09 PM   #5
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:14 PM   #6
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how about the double / triple DRS from Lotus?
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:02 PM   #7
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how about the double / triple DRS from Lotus?
I believe they are calling it: The Device

More on that: http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2012/09/01...vice-analysis/
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:23 PM   #8
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I believe they are calling it: The Device

More on that: http://scarbsf1.com/blog1/2012/09/01...vice-analysis/
Do they really want that wing stalled out through 130R?

Seems like that, and other corners on this track are fast enough to 'activate' it.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:34 PM   #9
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that was Kimi's fault. He flat spotted causing the vibrations.
It was the stupid "No tire changes, except for safety" rule's fault. Thanks Michelin.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:55 PM   #10
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It was the stupid "No tire changes, except for safety" rule's fault. Thanks Michelin.
he could have come in and changed tires under the safety rule. They opted not to as it was unclear if they would be penalized for it.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:36 PM   #11
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Do they really want that wing stalled out through 130R?

Seems like that, and other corners on this track are fast enough to 'activate' it.
That article was written before Spa and Monza. The speed at which it activates is adjustable. As stated the diffuser is doing most of the work in corners like 130R so it isn't out of the question. 130R isn't as scary as it used to be. Not sure what the latest status on this device is right now, but it doesn't seem to have gained them anything significant...yet. I'd love to see them use it and do well at Suzuka.
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That article was written before Spa and Monza. The speed at which it activates is adjustable. As stated the diffuser is doing most of the work in corners like 130R so it isn't out of the question. 130R isn't as scary as it used to be. Not sure what the latest status on this device is right now, but it doesn't seem to have gained them anything significant...yet. I'd love to see them use it and do well at Suzuka.
Didn't read the article really, but good to know.

I didn't think you could continuously adjust the speed at which it activates over the course of a lap. I thought it was a set and forget kinda thing. And I know 130R was, or used to be almost flat out after that straight...so if you set it fast enough for that, it wouldn't be in use much of the rest of the lap.
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http://www.planetf1.com/driver/3213/...zone-shortened

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Overtaking is likely to be more of a challenge at Suzuka this year after the FIA decided to shorten the DRS zone.

The activation zone for the Japanese Grand Prix will once again be on the start/finish straight, but the overtaking area has been cut by 20m to ensure that passing remains challenging through Turns 1 and 2.

The detection point remains 50m before the Casio Triangle chicane at Turn 16, with the activation point on the exit of Turn 18.

Race officials have also resurfaced the whole West Course (from Turn 7 until after the chicane) and installed new storm water drainage systems after the region was hit by Typhoon Jelawat in recent weeks.
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I thought they numbered typhoons...
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jesus, these FIA idiots, if they don´t want any overtaking why allow these DRS-wings, stupid idiots
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jesus, these FIA idiots, if they don´t want any overtaking why allow these DRS-wings, stupid idiots
Thank you, department of redundancy department.

Now that they've been to each track once, they can determine if the DRS zone was too long (passes too easy), too short (passing too difficult), or just right (creates passing opportunity).
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i think they are trying to make passing less artificial.

2009: wtf no one is passing anyone wah wah wah
2010/11: wtf passing is too easy, fake wah wah wah
2012: wtf passing is too hard wah wah wah

idc what they do. i still like the racing.
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Why so quiet?
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*shrug*
Everyone's drunk?
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a little too early to be drunk
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What? It's perfect drunk time.
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not in germany, it´s 9.13 AM now
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Still sounds like perfect drunk time.
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so, according to the qualifying commentary, lotus ISN'T using "the device".
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