LI Subaru crash: STi cut in half

kingme · 10-08-2012, 10:46 AM

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1177440

This is awful. Be careful out there folks. Stuff like this happens so fast.

4 dead, 1 in the hospital w/ unknown injuries

RIP

VWtraitor · 10-08-2012, 10:52 AM

Seen car crashes like this dozens of times being in the fire service, slow down guys if you wanna speed get onto a closed course...Tree's & poles don't wanna move when you hit them.

LIQUIDSK8S · 10-08-2012, 10:58 AM

Holy carp........they had to of been moving for that carnage. This reminds me of a GT2 RS crash I just saw, 160mph head on into a semi........nothing left.

Sublime40 · 10-08-2012, 11:01 AM

drive that road every single day, they must have been doing well over 100 to split that car in half

Adrian8 · 10-08-2012, 11:02 AM

Just wonder if the driver was dodging a deer.

Sublime40 · 10-08-2012, 11:03 AM

i have never seen a deer on that stretch of parkway

nhmtns · 10-08-2012, 11:21 AM

That many people in the car would definitely compromise the handling at high speeds.

blckout7 · 10-08-2012, 11:28 AM

saw the car this morning when I drove right by it.....terrible..

CTSparky · 10-08-2012, 11:33 AM

my prayers go out to the families... that part of SS can get very tricky especially with lots of people in the car and rainy..

spoon98hatch · 10-08-2012, 11:52 AM

Well at least they didnt kill anyone else but themselves. Darwin wins again

bigmaninjapan · 10-08-2012, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by spoon98hatch

Well at least they didnt kill anyone else but themselves. Darwin wins again

The driver certainly DID kill someone other than themselves.

spoon98hatch · 10-08-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by bigmaninjapan

The driver certainly DID kill someone other than themselves.

Truth but nothing good happens at 3:40 AM on slick roads and high speeds. One of those guys could have told the driver to slow down....

mclrn227 · 10-10-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spoon98hatch

Truth but nothing good happens at 3:40 AM on slick roads and high speeds. One of those guys could have told the driver to slow down....

It's not that simple. I was riding with a friend when he rolled his car 3 times. We came to a stop upside down in field. I was telling him to chill out and slow down or let me out, but it's not like I could've just jumped out. I even threatened to pull his e-brake. Needless to say, we are no longer friends.

curiousfish · 10-11-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Black94Snake

Natural Selection at its finest.

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Originally Posted by spoon98hatch

Well at least they didnt kill anyone else but themselves. Darwin wins again

Agreed! They were too young/crazy/stupid to handle themselves yet they had to pass the limits of physics with an STi...... poor STi.

Black94Snake · 10-08-2012, 11:47 AM

Natural Selection at its finest.

02redwagone · 10-08-2012, 11:51 AM

Never blame the road.

A W · 10-08-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Black94Snake

Natural Selection at its finest.

Applying that broad assumption upon each passenger is a stretch. For the driver, I'm sure people can agree it's fine to say so. However for the passengers to judge and assess the driver and his driving skills or emotional reactions before getting into a motorized vehicle with him isn't exactly "natural" humans can do.

That is of course unless you can account for every possible encounter that vehicle is capable of entering in a few seconds. Then sure, it was natural selection.

tekfoc · 10-08-2012, 12:11 PM

being that it was very very cool wet temps late 30's to 40 degree doesn't help . Especially with those summer tires .
People please throw on the winter tires and slow down.

coldmm803 · 10-08-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tekfoc

being that it was very very cool wet temps late 30's to 40 degree doesn't help . Especially with those summer tires .
People please throw on the winter tires and slow down.

+1000000

very sad to see this.

REX8 · 10-08-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tekfoc

being that it was very very cool wet temps late 30's to 40 degree doesn't help . Especially with those summer tires .
People please throw on the winter tires and slow down.

Sorry, I don't agree. It's the first week in October. Yes, while it was an abruptly chilly night...

It's unreasonable to expect someone to change their tires so early in a season due to a single dramatically cooler night. probably wasn't even on his radar.

More importantly, while a summer tire doesn't grip as well in 40 degree weather as 80 degree weather, it still has plenty of grip at those temps to drive plenty plenty fast on. Certainly worlds more grip than would be needed to drive at anything close to safe speeds for that highway.

The tires were 10000% not the cause of the accident. Presumably, a very very bad driving error was.

More generally, I'm sick and tired of the..."OMG 40 degree temps, your summer tires are ice skates!!!!"

That's complete BS. Yes, they're down on grip. But if they're down enough grip that it's causing a car control issue on public roads, you're driving like a ****ing asshat and need to slow the hell down. Period.

Groceryboy · 10-08-2012, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by REX8

Sorry, I don't agree. It's the first week in October. Yes, while it was an abruptly chilly night...

It's unreasonable to expect someone to change their tires so early in a season due to a single dramatically cooler night. probably wasn't even on his radar.

More importantly, while a summer tire doesn't grip as well in 40 degree weather as 80 degree weather, it still has plenty of grip at those temps to drive plenty plenty fast on. Certainly worlds more grip than would be needed to drive at anything close to safe speeds for that highway.

The tires were 10000% not the cause of the accident. Presumably, a very very bad driving error was.

More generally, I'm sick and tired of the..."OMG 40 degree temps, your summer tires are ice skates!!!!"

That's complete BS. Yes, they're down on grip. But if they're down enough grip that it's causing a car control issue on public roads, you're driving like a ****ing asshat and need to slow the hell down. Period.

100% agreed.

tekfoc · 10-08-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by REX8

Sorry, I don't agree. It's the first week in October. Yes, while it was an abruptly chilly night...

It's unreasonable to expect someone to change their tires so early in a season due to a single dramatically cooler night. probably wasn't even on his radar.

More importantly, while a summer tire doesn't grip as well in 40 degree weather as 80 degree weather, it still has plenty of grip at those temps to drive plenty plenty fast on. Certainly worlds more grip than would be needed to drive at anything close to safe speeds for that highway.

The tires were 10000% not the cause of the accident. Presumably, a very very bad driving error was.

More generally, I'm sick and tired of the..."OMG 40 degree temps, your summer tires are ice skates!!!!"

That's complete BS. Yes, they're down on grip. But if they're down enough grip that it's causing a car control issue on public roads, you're driving like a ****ing asshat and need to slow the hell down. Period.

NO **** the tires wasnt the cause of the accident but it surly made it easier to loose control. (AKA-we all know the true reason)

Last year i'm perty sure the tri state people remember that huge ice storm we had in Oct 2011 was horrendous.
The first thing I did was swap out my summers for winters before i even moved the sti any ware . all ready mounted on spare wheels .
had a slight mishap 3 yrs back with summer tires in a storm by surprised .
not fun .

kingme · 10-08-2012, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tekfoc

...The first thing I did was swap out my summers for winters before i even move the sti any ware .

wut

MaddMax · 10-08-2012, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tekfoc

Last year i'm perty sure the tri state people remember that huge ice storm we had in Oct 2011 was horrendous.
The first thing I did was swap out my summers for winters before i even moved the sti any ware . all ready mounted on spare wheels .
had a slight mishap 3 yrs back with summer tires in a storm by surprised .
not fun .

FYI - Snow tires won't do any better on ice than any other tire except for studded. If there's ice on the road, avoid driving unless someone in your family is dying. It's not worth the risk.

tekfoc · 10-08-2012, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MaddMax

FYI - Snow tires won't do any better on ice than any other tire except for studded. If there's ice on the road, avoid driving unless someone in your family is dying. It's not worth the risk.

100% agree

10-08-2012, 10:46 AM	#1
kingme Scooby Newbie Member#: 280943 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Northeast Vehicle: '11 WRX	LI Subaru crash: STi cut in half http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1177440 This is awful. Be careful out there folks. Stuff like this happens so fast. 4 dead, 1 in the hospital w/ unknown injuries RIP

10-08-2012, 12:11 PM	#18
tekfoc Scooby Specialist Member#: 21392 Join Date: Jul 2002 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: NEW YORK CITY Vehicle: 2007 IMPREZA WRX STI urban gray	being that it was very very cool wet temps late 30's to 40 degree doesn't help . Especially with those summer tires . People please throw on the winter tires and slow down. Last edited by tekfoc; 10-08-2012 at 12:25 PM.

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10-08-2012, 10:52 AM	#2
VWtraitor Scooby Newbie Member#: 333149 Join Date: Sep 2012 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: MD Vehicle: 10 Wrx Hatch Silver	Seen car crashes like this dozens of times being in the fire service, slow down guys if you wanna speed get onto a closed course...Tree's & poles don't wanna move when you hit them.

10-08-2012, 10:58 AM	#3
LIQUIDSK8S Scooby Specialist Member#: 22605 Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Boca Raton, FL Vehicle: 2002 JDM STI/WRX WRB	Holy carp........they had to of been moving for that carnage. This reminds me of a GT2 RS crash I just saw, 160mph head on into a semi........nothing left.

10-08-2012, 11:01 AM	#4
Sublime40 Scooby Newbie Member#: 141404 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Long Island,NY Vehicle: 2006 WRX TR Black	drive that road every single day, they must have been doing well over 100 to split that car in half

10-08-2012, 11:02 AM	#5
Adrian8 Scooby Newbie Member#: 330292 Join Date: Aug 2012	Just wonder if the driver was dodging a deer.

10-08-2012, 11:03 AM	#6
Sublime40 Scooby Newbie Member#: 141404 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Long Island,NY Vehicle: 2006 WRX TR Black	i have never seen a deer on that stretch of parkway

10-08-2012, 11:21 AM	#7
nhmtns Scooby Guru Member#: 94283 Join Date: Aug 2005 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Mt. Washington Valley, NH Vehicle: '05 OBXT Stage 2 Min bil är svart	That many people in the car would definitely compromise the handling at high speeds.

10-08-2012, 11:28 AM	#8
blckout7 Scooby Specialist Member#: 189845 Join Date: Sep 2008 Chapter/Region: Tri-State	saw the car this morning when I drove right by it.....terrible..

10-08-2012, 11:33 AM	#9
CTSparky Scooby Specialist Member#: 282204 Join Date: May 2011 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Vernon CT Vehicle: 2011 5 Door STi Plasma Blue Pearl	my prayers go out to the families... that part of SS can get very tricky especially with lots of people in the car and rainy..

10-08-2012, 11:52 AM	#10
spoon98hatch Scooby Newbie Member#: 308242 Join Date: Jan 2012 Chapter/Region: TXIC Location: Round Rock Vehicle: 2012 STi Sedan SWP	Well at least they didnt kill anyone else but themselves. Darwin wins again

10-08-2012, 11:47 AM	#15
Black94Snake NASIOC Supporter Member#: 274499 Join Date: Feb 2011 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: RI Vehicle: 2007 CGM VF'd WRX 12.9 @ 105mph	Natural Selection at its finest.

10-08-2012, 11:51 AM	#16
02redwagone Scooby Specialist Member#: 87067 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Oregon Coast/AK Vehicle: 02 Old but tasty SRP	Never blame the road.