Need for an aftermarket bpv at stage 2?

silverboost0303 · 10-31-2012, 10:18 PM

I already have the flame suit on so I'm prepared lol. Can't really find anything on my specific question. My question is, would an aftermarket bypass valves such as the COBB XLE or GFB benefit my vehicle in terms of holding boost better/longer than the oem piece? Let it be known I'd run the bpv full recirculating. As stated I am full stage 2, protuned holding 18.5 psi consistently, and sometimes spiking around 20. I also (flame on) want a different sound than the stock bpv provides with the Cobb sf intake. Any info regarding this, or if some of you are running the same setup I'd love to hear about it

HinshawWRX · 10-31-2012, 10:21 PM

The sound difference will come more from venting to the air then just changing out the BPV. And if your BPV is holding boost, which it appears to be doing, there is no NEED to change it. If it were to be failing, then you would NEED to change it.

drewvdw · 10-31-2012, 10:36 PM

Benefit, no, precaution, yeah. It isn't something you need to worry about now, but don't be surprised if it begins to fail. The plastic ones are really crappy.

silverboost0303 · 10-31-2012, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HinshawWRX

The sound difference will come more from venting to the air then just changing out the BPV. And if your BPV is holding boost, which it appears to be doing, there is no NEED to change it. If it were to be failing, then you would NEED to change it.

I plan on adding injectors, a fuel pump, and a process west ic in the spring. I'm assuming I'd be pushing slightly higher boost at that point. I posted this because I'm looking down the road and would like to plan accordingly.

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Originally Posted by drewvdw

Benefit, no, precaution, yeah. It isn't something you need to worry about now, but don't be surprised if it begins to fail. The plastic ones are really crappy.

Precaution for the future. Exactly my thoughts. Thanks for the input guys.

WRXSteye20008 · 10-31-2012, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by silverboost0303

I plan on adding injectors, a fuel pump, and a process west ic in the spring. I'm assuming I'd be pushing slightly higher boost at that point. I posted this because I'm looking down the road and would like to plan accordingly.

Higher horse power does not always mean higher boost**

I am at 21psi and spike sometimes around 23 when it's cool with 18gXT, Spearco TMIC, Perrin big MAF intake, DW850cc injectors, Tail 38mm EWG, WB 255 Fuel pump, and the list goes on holding fine with the stock bpv, well it is crushed a little but, it holds pressure fine at 346awhp/378tq, oh yeah this is on a car with 123,890 miles.

BigRob74 · 10-31-2012, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WRXSteye20008

I am at 21psi and spike sometimes around 23 when it's cool with 18gXT, Spearco TMIC, Perrin big MAF intake, DW850cc injectors, Tail 38mm EWG, WB 255 Fuel pump, and the list goes on holding fine with the stock bpv, well it is crushed a little but, it holds pressure fine at 346awhp/378tq, oh yeah this is on a car with 123,890 miles.

i dont think yours is plastic

silverboost0303 · 10-31-2012, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRob74

i dont think yours is plastic

Yeah it isn't plastic because he was able to crush it. I understand higher hp doesn't mean higher boost. I'm pretty positive though when I go for a retune it'll be raised. I'm just basically looking for people with the same set up, same generation, and I want to know if its a smart investment for the future.

BigRob74 · 10-31-2012, 11:02 PM

the forge one seem to be recommended, mines not leaking yet, 19psi. lets see how long it lasts..

dangyo · 11-01-2012, 01:39 PM

it's plastic on the wrx. that's why everyone upgrades once they're stage 2/plus. i highly recommend the forge cause it's a quality product and priced the best. i also have the same exact set up now and plan on doing pw ic & ebcs next then injectors/fp. it sounds perfect to me.

SeeeeeYa · 11-01-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dangyo

it's plastic on the wrx. that's why everyone upgrades once they're stage 2/plus. i highly recommend the forge cause it's a quality product and priced the best. i also have the same exact set up now and plan on doing pw ic & ebcs next then injectors/fp. it sounds perfect to me.

Not "everyone."

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=454965

YMMV, but this has served me and MANY other for many years.

Forge is good if you need AM, but it is no better, just costs more and provides a talking point.

silverboost0303 · 11-01-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HinshawWRX

Adding injectors and a fuel pump doesn't exactly add power/boost. Even with a retune you might only sqeak out a few more ponies. Don't get me wrong, precatutionary steps are great. And in context now, with plans to move forward it is NOT a bad step to take.

It's not.

STI's have always had metal.

You know who would be the BEST person to ask if this is a good mod? Your tuner.

Dude lol, I understand about those modifications not adding a boat load of power. My main concern was the strength and durability of the oem bpv because I'm getting up there. And I would ask my tuner, but he passed away RIP Chris....

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Originally Posted by dangyo

it's plastic on the wrx. that's why everyone upgrades once they're stage 2/plus. i highly recommend the forge cause it's a quality product and priced the best. i also have the same exact set up now and plan on doing pw ic & ebcs next then injectors/fp. it sounds perfect to me.

Thanks bro I might just look into the forge. It's slightly cheaper than what I'm looking at, but that really isn't a focal point of mine. I had a forge bpv on my 03 GTI. Sounded pretty good.

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Originally Posted by SeeeeeYa

Not "everyone."

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=454965

YMMV, but this has served me and MANY other for many years.

Forge is good if you need AM, but it is no better, just costs more and provides a talking point.

Lol I gotcha. Welp, decisions decisions lol.

silverboost0303 · 11-01-2012, 09:00 PM

Anybody hear good things about the turbo smart dual port?

drewvdw · 11-01-2012, 09:12 PM

Never heard anything about them, I'm running the Forge unit. Haven't had a probem with it since I got it.

silverboost0303 · 11-01-2012, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by drewvdw

Never heard anything about them, I'm running the Forge unit. Haven't had a probem with it since I got it.

That might be what I go with.

10-31-2012, 10:18 PM	#1
silverboost0303 Scooby Newbie Member#: 83266 Join Date: Mar 2005 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Springfield, MA Vehicle: 2011 WRX Sedan SWP	Need for an aftermarket bpv at stage 2? I already have the flame suit on so I'm prepared lol. Can't really find anything on my specific question. My question is, would an aftermarket bypass valves such as the COBB XLE or GFB benefit my vehicle in terms of holding boost better/longer than the oem piece? Let it be known I'd run the bpv full recirculating. As stated I am full stage 2, protuned holding 18.5 psi consistently, and sometimes spiking around 20. I also (flame on) want a different sound than the stock bpv provides with the Cobb sf intake. Any info regarding this, or if some of you are running the same setup I'd love to hear about it

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10-31-2012, 10:21 PM	#2
HinshawWRX n00b Moderator Moderator Member#: 140114 Join Date: Feb 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Jolly ol York of VA Vehicle: 06 18G Semi Built SGM WRX	The sound difference will come more from venting to the air then just changing out the BPV. And if your BPV is holding boost, which it appears to be doing, there is no NEED to change it. If it were to be failing, then you would NEED to change it.

10-31-2012, 10:36 PM	#3
drewvdw NASIOC Supporter Member#: 255776 Join Date: Aug 2010 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Laramie, WY Vehicle: 2010 LR WRX MPS and PAR powered.	Benefit, no, precaution, yeah. It isn't something you need to worry about now, but don't be surprised if it begins to fail. The plastic ones are really crappy.

10-31-2012, 11:02 PM	#8
BigRob74 Scooby Specialist Member#: 305107 Join Date: Dec 2011 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Long Island, NY Vehicle: 2012 wrx satin white pearl	the forge one seem to be recommended, mines not leaking yet, 19psi. lets see how long it lasts..

11-01-2012, 01:39 PM	#9
dangyo Scooby Newbie Member#: 289786 Join Date: Jul 2011 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: South Jersey Vehicle: 2011 WRX Hatch	it's plastic on the wrx. that's why everyone upgrades once they're stage 2/plus. i highly recommend the forge cause it's a quality product and priced the best. i also have the same exact set up now and plan on doing pw ic & ebcs next then injectors/fp. it sounds perfect to me.

11-01-2012, 09:00 PM	#12
silverboost0303 Scooby Newbie Member#: 83266 Join Date: Mar 2005 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Springfield, MA Vehicle: 2011 WRX Sedan SWP	Anybody hear good things about the turbo smart dual port?

11-01-2012, 09:12 PM	#13
drewvdw NASIOC Supporter Member#: 255776 Join Date: Aug 2010 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Laramie, WY Vehicle: 2010 LR WRX MPS and PAR powered.	Never heard anything about them, I'm running the Forge unit. Haven't had a probem with it since I got it.