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Old 11-06-2012, 12:28 PM   #1
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I own a 2007 Impreza 2.5i. No it does not have a turbo and it is not a WRX. I've owned this car for a little over a year now and have put 20k miles on it.

The reason for this post is to establish MY perspective on this car. I love my car and I have a blast driving and working on it. Personally I think that it's a pretty quick car for a naturally aspirated 4 cylinder. I understand that my car is no where near as fast as a STi, Evo, etc. I've actually beat an 04 WRX in a race before, this doesn't mean my car is fast, nor does it mean it's faster than all WRXs.

I've invested much time and money into my car and I have no regrets. Friends and others say to me, "Stop wasting your money, buy a WRX." Well it's not as simple as everyone thinks it is.

I'm 19 years old and when I was 17 I was rear ended in my first car and it was totaled. I bought a junky maxima as my first standard. After a while the car completely fell apart. My parents said to me that it would probably be more beneficial if I got a newer car so that I don't have to worry about my car breaking so often. I've always loved Subarus and I wanted to get one. On a personal note, my parent's credit isn't great and I don't have credit.

Our local Subaru car dealership was having a special for people with "bad/no credit." I saw this as being my only opportunity to get a newer Subaru because it was the easiest way to get a loan straight from the dealership. Keep in mind I only wanted a Subaru Impreza or legacy, nothing else. The only used legacy they had was an 09 NA for a very high price. There was an 08 Impreza for 18k, ugly and way over priced. There were a few WRXs but not only were they expensive, my parents said "you don't need a fast car."

The only choice I had was a 2007 Impreza 2.5i for $12.5k with a 5year loan. I've been paying for the car since day one. Since there's a loan on the car, the bank has the title. So I can't trade it and if I sell it I'll have maybe a few thousand cash. So in a sense, I'm stuck with this car until its paid off. I'll be receiving a hefty settlement from my accident last year, then I can pay off the car. But until then I have to keep it.

If I want to do some mods here and there, I'm going to do it. I plan to get a WRX next but for now, I'm working with what I have and I don't think I should be criticized for it. The point of this post is not to make anyone mad, it's to inform the ignorant.

So next time a kid with a NA subie asks about a mod or anything else, don't be so quick to harass them until you know their story.

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Old 11-06-2012, 12:31 PM   #2
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how about some bullet points or a summary who has time to read all that
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:33 PM   #3
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how about some bullet points or a summary who has time to read all that
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:11 PM   #4
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:48 PM   #5
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Cool story bro. The whole point to people "harrassing" you is because modifying a 2.5i will gain you next to nothing.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:55 PM   #6
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Cool story bro. The whole point to people "harrassing" you is because modifying a 2.5i will gain you next to nothing.
^Exactly what the OP is talking about. Typical crap attitude.

He's not speaking just about mods. He's speaking about enjoying the car just as anyone else enjoys their WRX/STI. It could be something completely unrelated to power such as suspension and the typical Subaru attitude is stop wasting money and get a WRX. Each car has its pros and cons whether it be a 2.5i, a WRX, or an STI. It depends what you can afford and what you want.

If you enjoy your car good for you. I will never hate on someone because they enjoy they're N/A 4 cylinder just because it doesn't have a turbo. Hell, I know people that have more fun with their N/A Subarus than people do with their forced induction Subarus.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:17 PM   #7
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^Exactly what the OP is talking about. Typical crap attitude.

He's not speaking just about mods. He's speaking about enjoying the car just as anyone else enjoys their WRX/STI. It could be something completely unrelated to power such as suspension and the typical Subaru attitude is stop wasting money and get a WRX. Each car has its pros and cons whether it be a 2.5i, a WRX, or an STI. It depends what you can afford and what you want.

If you enjoy your car good for you. I will never hate on someone because they enjoy they're N/A 4 cylinder just because it doesn't have a turbo. Hell, I know people that have more fun with their N/A Subarus than people do with their forced induction Subarus.
He is in fact talking about mods. Any power mods are useless. The only thing that would make much sense would be an exhaust simply for personal preference. You will not make power on an N/A Subaru without tons of money. If you want to do suspension/interior mods, by all means, go for it! But if it's power you're looking for, wait for the WRX. You'll save time, money, and disappointment.
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Old 11-09-2012, 01:14 AM   #8
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You will not make power on an N/A Subaru without tons of money.
One word. CAMS! No, they aren't going to kick your N/A 2.5 up to 200hp or anything, but the difference is really great. Cams are really the only "drop-in" part that I know of that will make a significant difference. I love my Delta 1500s on my Outback. My car is now categorized as "slow" instead of "very slow!" Worth the $200 for sure.
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Old 11-15-2012, 12:06 PM   #9
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He is in fact talking about mods. Any power mods are useless. The only thing that would make much sense would be an exhaust simply for personal preference. You will not make power on an N/A Subaru without tons of money. If you want to do suspension/interior mods, by all means, go for it! But if it's power you're looking for, wait for the WRX. You'll save time, money, and disappointment.
You are always flaming somebody dude.. Seriously your an idiot...
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:01 PM   #10
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Cool story bro. The whole point to people "harrassing" you is because modifying a 2.5i will gain you next to nothing.
Who cares?!?!

He is doing what he car afford as the OP clearly stated in his first post. Is this affecting your life/car/boyfriend what so ever?

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Old 11-06-2012, 06:44 PM   #11
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Cool story bro. The whole point to people "harrassing" you is because modifying a 2.5i will gain you next to nothing.
Bull****. Modifying a 2.5i for power gets you not much. But suspension mods will make that car out handle most any stock Subaru (STi, WRX, etc) and it will make it 1000x more fun every time you get behind the wheel.

I'm a HUGE fan of my NA Subarus (97 Imp L and 00 Imp 2.5RS). Awesome rides that are more streetable and reliable and cheaper than my STi swapped WRX.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:28 AM   #12
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Bull****. Modifying a 2.5i for power gets you not much. But suspension mods will make that car out handle most any stock Subaru (STi, WRX, etc) and it will make it 1000x more fun every time you get behind the wheel.

I'm a HUGE fan of my NA Subarus (97 Imp L and 00 Imp 2.5RS). Awesome rides that are more streetable and reliable and cheaper than my STi swapped WRX.
This is very true but I think that this is known by most of us. The argument resides in modifying the 2.5i for power.
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:28 PM   #13
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Cool story bro. The whole point to people "harrassing" you is because modifying a 2.5i will gain you next to nothing.
With the exception of engine tuning, modifying a 2.5i is pretty much the same as modding a WRX...
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Old 11-08-2012, 01:43 PM   #14
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With the exception of engine tuning, modifying a 2.5i is pretty much the same as modding a WRX...
Wat??
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:53 PM   #15
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It's your car you shouldn't be so butthurt about other peoples opinions. Do what you want with it as long as you're not endangering any lives, i.e. street racing a wrx like a moron. Everyone has their own stories but unless you're particularly close to anyone it'll be in one ear out the other. If you go online to where thousands of people log on, expect people to disagree with you. If you don't care for other peoples opinions don't make a public post where others can respond.
BTW I've got an na 2008 Impreza which in 09 I got it for $12.5k with 25k miles so dealers around you must've really marked up the price. Best of luck with your endeavors!
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:00 PM   #16
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I own a 2007 Impreza 2.5i. No it does not have a turbo and it is not a WRX. I've owned this car for a little over a year now and have put 20k miles on it.

The reason for this post is to establish MY perspective on this car. I love my car and I have a blast driving and working on it. Personally I think that it's a pretty quick car for a naturally aspirated 4 cylinder. I understand that my car is no where near as fast as a STi, Evo, etc. I've actually beat an 04 WRX in a race before, this doesn't mean my car is fast, nor does it mean it's faster than all WRXs.

I've invested much time and money into my car and I have no regrets. Friends and others say to me, "Stop wasting your money, buy a WRX." Well it's not as simple as everyone thinks it is.

I'm 19 years old and when I was 17 I was rear ended in my first car and it was totaled. I bought a junky maxima as my first standard. After a while the car completely fell apart. My parents said to me that it would probably be more beneficial if I got a newer car so that I don't have to worry about my car breaking so often. I've always loved Subarus and I wanted to get one. On a personal note, my parent's credit isn't great and I don't have credit.

Our local Subaru car dealership was having a special for people with "bad/no credit." I saw this as being my only opportunity to get a newer Subaru because it was the easiest way to get a loan straight from the dealership. Keep in mind I only wanted a Subaru Impreza or legacy, nothing else. The only used legacy they had was an 09 NA for a very high price. There was an 08 Impreza for 18k, ugly and way over priced. There were a few WRXs but not only were they expensive, my parents said "you don't need a fast car."

The only choice I had was a 2007 Impreza 2.5i for $12.5k with a 5year loan. I've been paying for the car since day one. Since there's a loan on the car, the bank has the title. So I can't trade it and if I sell it I'll have maybe a few thousand cash. So in a sense, I'm stuck with this car until its paid off. I'll be receiving a hefty settlement from my accident last year, then I can pay off the car. But until then I have to keep it.

If I want to do some mods here and there, I'm going to do it. I plan to get a WRX next but for now, I'm working with what I have and I don't think I should be criticized for it. The point of this post is not to make anyone mad, it's to inform the ignorant.

So next time a kid with a NA subie asks about a mod or anything else, don't be so quick to harass them until you know their story.
It does suck that people can't even ask a question without getting flamed on NASIOC. You own a car that you can afford, plus you are still a teenager. It is very sad what NASIOC has become. I mean its not like IWSTI which is mostly WRX and STI owners, but that is the crowd the site is aimed at. NASIOC covers ALL subarus (Impreza, Legacy, Outback, etc...), so you should not have to worry asking a question about an N/A impreza. However, it appears from your post that people do (i.e. - the ass clown 3 posts back), which is not right at all. You are simply a younger individual looking for help and guidance.

So I say ask any question related to your impreza that you want (with in the forum guidelines), and screw the haters, who's mom and dad probably purchased their WRX or STI for them (also the same ones that wrap themselves around trees). Some dumbass' in here think if you have any other subaru except for the WRX, STi or BRZ, that it is a waste of time. F*** them, you do what makes you happy!

This is why I only browse through here when bored at work. IWSTI is much better
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Only post in the N/A subforum. Problem solved. (But there are cons to that, but I wouldn't want to make them upset)
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:10 PM   #18
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Only post in the N/A subforum. Problem solved. (But there are cons to that, but I wouldn't want to make them upset)

There is only a N/A Powertrain forum....So you are telling him to post wheel questions, or exterior light questions in there???
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I'd say know your place and realize that you truly drive an economy car, not a sports car. Don't expect to get the same respect as someone with an STi or a WRX.
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I'd say know your place and realize that you truly drive an economy car, not a sports car. Don't expect to get the same respect as someone with an STi or a WRX.
If you think you need a fast car to gain respect......

..... then you're not worthy of it.

The OP is paying his own way on this car. It's not like so many of the kidiots here who have Mommy and Daddy buy them a WRX and then spend all their money on mods. He gains more respect from me in his stock NA Impreza than some guy with 400 WHP who's driving a car paid for by his parents.
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Old 11-06-2012, 05:59 PM   #21
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I'd say know your place and realize that you truly drive an economy car, not a sports car. Don't expect to get the same respect as someone with an STi or a WRX.
Yeah, because rich kids with WRXs that daddy bought, are so much more respectable than someone who actually pays for and builds their own car?

OP, grow some thick skin, use the search function, and deal with it. Turbo kids are only here until the next fad hits, then they'll be on to that and let the rest of us enthusiasts get back to business as usual.

I drive an N/A 97 lesbo wagon that puts down over 180 at the wheels. I have yet to drive with anyone in a WRX or STI that can lose me through the twisties. Give them something to worry about. But don't worry about straight line speed or huge hp numbers; you'll never get either.
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Yeah, because rich kids with WRXs that daddy bought, are so much more respectable than someone who actually pays for and builds their own car?

OP, grow some thick skin, use the search function, and deal with it. Turbo kids are only here until the next fad hits, then they'll be on to that and let the rest of us enthusiasts get back to business as usual.

I drive an N/A 97 lesbo wagon that puts down over 180 at the wheels. I have yet to drive with anyone in a WRX or STI that can lose me through the twisties. Give them something to worry about. But don't worry about straight line speed or huge hp numbers; you'll never get either.

Rich kids who are gifted WRX or STi should not be looked down upon. There will ALWAYS be people who are more fortunate than you and I. If the rich kids actually put the time into his or her car and loves it for what it is, the person should have just as much respect as a person who bought a car with his or her own money.

Money should not be a determinant of whether someone should get more respect or not.
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I applaud you for taking pride in your ride. Impreza 2.5i's are a great car. But it's comments and tone like this that will get you in trouble.
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I've actually beat an 04 WRX in a race before, this doesn't mean my car is fast, nor does it mean it's faster than all WRXs.
If I went on CorvetteForums.com and claimed the following, I'd be ridiculed.
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Such a claim could be 100% true, but it carries with it a flair of arrogance not welcome by everybody. Also realize you're 19 years old, driving for 3 years. You have your whole life ahead of you and there's no pressure or expectation that you need to have the flashiest car on Day 1. You're paying for your ride and that deserves WAY more respect than being 19 and having mommy and daddy buying you an STI. I'm 29 and just got my WRX last month. My dad has wanted a Vette since he was 16 and just got it 2 years ago after 40 years of waiting.


Getting on a different track, what work have you done to your 2.5i?

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There is nothing wrong with a n/a impreza. I ran an 01 2.5RS on the track before the WRX even came out. My upgrades were some JDM Bridgestone/Tokiko shocks, Tein medium race springs, 4 pot front brakes, H6 rear brakes, 140 pounds of weight saving and a bunch of wheels/tires to do street, snow, track. It was a great car and one that I wish I kept instead of buying the biggest pos, most unreliable, expensive, fall apart at EVERY track event 2000 Audi S4.

I know you have a newer N/A, and Subaru has upped the power for you, but added a LOT of road hugging weight. Something that I did was carefully look at everything on the car to determine if it could be cheaply (or free) replaced or reduced. Look at Lotus. They have never gone with power, yet compete rather well against big power Corvettes and Porsches in ALMS and Grand Am racing. The 140 pounds I lost was simple stuff like steel brackets that could be replaced with tie wraps and the various bricks within the car. You've got a good, reliable car which is going to go for a long time. Your mileage is better than a WRX and you can get 86 octane gas....if you can find it.

I have no problems with your car.
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