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Old 12-21-2012, 07:41 AM   #1
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Okay, I did a lot of searching. I found some posts about this subject. All I'm asking all you Subaru owners is, does your transmission whine in 1st and 2nd gear under acceleration.. I took my car to the Subaru dealer on Wednesday originally for the ECM recall. When I got there I asked the service advisor if he could check you the whine in my transmission. So the service advisor assigned my car to their master tech. My car has 5.6k miles on it currently. That whine has always been present since day 1. I got a call Wednesday at around 4PM. The service rep told me that the tech wanted to do a tear down of the transmission. They also stated that if it was abuse related that they would charge me a tear down of $350. They would pay the other half. If its defective then, I would pay nothing. How do I prove the noise was there since the beginning. I need all your help in being honest and clearing things up. It never occurred to me that they would want to do a tear down. The tech said that most likely they would be replacing the first and second gears. Please help me out. Thanks for all your time.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:52 AM   #2
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Okay, I did a lot of searching. I found some posts about this subject. All I'm asking all you Subaru owners is, does your transmission whine in 1st and 2nd gear under acceleration.. I took my car to the Subaru dealer on Wednesday originally for the ECM recall. When I got there I asked the service advisor if he could check you the whine in my transmission. So the service advisor assigned my car to their master tech. My car has 5.6k miles on it currently. That whine has always been present since day 1. I got a call Wednesday at around 4PM. The service rep told me that the tech wanted to do a tear down of the transmission. They also stated that if it was abuse related that they would charge me a tear down of $350. They would pay the other half. If its defective then, I would pay nothing. How do I prove the noise was there since the beginning. I need all your help in being honest and clearing things up. It never occurred to me that they would want to do a tear down. The tech said that most likely they would be replacing the first and second gears. Please help me out. Thanks for all your time.
if you didnt document this with the service dept when you realized it....it may be a done deal
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:13 AM   #3
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if you didnt document this with the service dept when you realized it....it may be a done deal
What I'm thinking of doing is asking them to test drive a brand new car with them and see if the tranny whines.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:53 AM   #4
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If the whine is the same as when you first got the car, it's probably normal. Tell them not to tear the trans apart.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:14 AM   #5
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If the whine is the same as when you first got the car, it's probably normal. Tell them not to tear the trans apart.
I asked them about that, they said that they would document it that I brought the transmission whine up. The service rep also stated that 90% of cases, it's a warranty defect.
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Old 12-21-2012, 08:49 AM   #6
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The trans shouldn't whine on acceleration. It sounds like a bad wear pattern on the gears. There is no good way to prove that there was abuse, it is all up to the tech and the service department on how they go about wording it. If your car is stock and you haven't had any issues with it, you shouldn't have a problem warranting it. I know we would probably warranty it here. I've seen a a few low mile 2011+ STI's come in with cracked ring lands and that was warrantied by us with no problem. Just go out of your way to be extra nice and not combative to the service department and that goes a long way. Hope it all works out for you!
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:15 AM   #7
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The trans shouldn't whine on acceleration. It sounds like a bad wear pattern on the gears. There is no good way to prove that there was abuse, it is all up to the tech and the service department on how they go about wording it. If your car is stock and you haven't had any issues with it, you shouldn't have a problem warranting it. I know we would probably warranty it here. I've seen a a few low mile 2011+ STI's come in with cracked ring lands and that was warrantied by us with no problem. Just go out of your way to be extra nice and not combative to the service department and that goes a long way. Hope it all works out for you!
Thanks for the reply. The only mod I've done to it is shifter bushings. Both front and rear. but like I said, it has done it since day 1.
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:53 AM   #8
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Thanks for the reply. The only mod I've done to it is shifter bushings. Both front and rear. but like I said, it has done it since day 1.
someone correct me if im wrong, but you should have taken those aftermarket shifter bushings out and put your stock ones back in before you went into the dealer with a trans issue. Did they say anything about the bushings when they looked at your car?
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:03 AM   #9
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someone correct me if im wrong, but you should have taken those aftermarket shifter bushings out and put your stock ones back in before you went into the dealer with a trans issue. Did they say anything about the bushings when they looked at your car?
I'm not going to lie about what I've done to the car. I'm honest. No they didn't say anything.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:08 AM   #10
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someone correct me if im wrong, but you should have taken those aftermarket shifter bushings out and put your stock ones back in before you went into the dealer with a trans issue. Did they say anything about the bushings when they looked at your car?
I doubt they'll say anything about aftermarket bushings. At least they didnt for me when i went to them. But I ended up with a melted turbo, loose drain/fill plug, and more noise than I originally started with, so who knows. Three different Subaru Dealerships and every tech that touched my car sucked. If they determine your tranny is defective see if they'll replace the whole thing instead of rebuilding it. One less thing to **** up. Hopefully the techs where you are, are a little better.
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:06 AM   #11
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I doubt they'll say anything about aftermarket bushings. At least they didnt for me when i went to them. But I ended up with a melted turbo, loose drain/fill plug, and more noise than I originally started with, so who knows. Three different Subaru Dealerships and every tech that touched my car sucked. If they determine your tranny is defective see if they'll replace the whole thing instead of rebuilding it. One less thing to **** up. Hopefully the techs where you are, are a little better.
It doesn't hurt to ask. I'll give them a call later on today. Thanks for the reply
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:00 AM   #12
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whine in 1st and 2nd is normal. ive had it on my 2010 since day one. 80k miles later, it still sounds the same, no better, no worse.

its fine, really.
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Old 12-21-2012, 01:43 PM   #13
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2362972

Pretty sure this isn't the first thread I've seen recently. They all whine.
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Old 12-21-2012, 02:12 PM   #14
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I had an 05 LGt and now a 13 wrx and they both whine on acceleration. Just a part of the Subaru charm
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Old 12-21-2012, 03:38 PM   #15
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Yes, they whine - not unusual at all. Mine's been like that from day 1.

Subaru AWD transmissions tend to be a little whiney under hard acceleration.
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Do keep us updated though, I'm curious what the dealership might tell you regarding gear/synchro/fork wear.
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Old 12-21-2012, 04:21 PM   #17
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Do keep us updated though, I'm curious what the dealership might tell you regarding gear/synchro/fork wear.
I will. According to the dealer they ordered the gears ahead of time. They will come in on Thursday. I think they are just wanting to give work to the tech.
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Old 12-21-2012, 05:28 PM   #18
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I will. According to the dealer they ordered the gears ahead of time. They will come in on Thursday. I think they are just wanting to give work to the tech.
they will look stupid opening a tranny, changing parts and then putting it back in the car and it still whines...

what then ? there just gonna say it's normal ?
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Old 12-21-2012, 06:34 PM   #19
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they will look stupid opening a tranny, changing parts and then putting it back in the car and it still whines...

what then ? there just gonna say it's normal ?
You guys assume the whine is the "normal" gear whine. What if it's louder than what you assume and it is actually failing parts?

we HAVE had a few threads where guys had whine and then had transmission failures after everybody insisted they were being whiny new car buyers.... one of them pretty recently on a 2012 car IIRC. Let me find the link, I thought it was pretty comical the amount of people who just KNEW the whine was normal, up until they found an issue in the transmission.

Without hearing it in person nobody can be certain it is 100 percent normal whine and not something that needs to be addressed. The dealer said it isn't normal and they want to look? Let them as long as you aren't all modded up like some of us
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You guys assume the whine is the "normal" gear whine. What if it's louder than what you assume and it is actually failing parts?

we HAVE had a few threads where guys had whine and then had transmission failures after everybody insisted they were being whiny new car buyers.... one of them pretty recently on a 2012 car IIRC. Let me find the link, I thought it was pretty comical the amount of people who just KNEW the whine was normal, up until they found an issue in the transmission.

Without hearing it in person nobody can be certain it is 100 percent normal whine and not something that needs to be addressed. The dealer said it isn't normal and they want to look? Let them as long as you aren't all modded up like some of us
ahhhh yes.
here we are: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2416166

Make sure to look at all of the replies saying this is normal without anybody actually hearing it for themselves(aside from OP). I like post 15 where we indirectly call the OP whiny because we ASSUME.

turned out this was an issue and wasn't the normal gear whine so many of us know and love
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Too late for video. Dealer already has car in shop. The started the tear down today.
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:33 PM   #22
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Too late for video. Dealer already has car in shop. The started the tear down today.
did you drive the car hard? launch it, powershift, ect?
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:46 PM   #23
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did you drive the car hard? launch it, powershift, ect?
No. I would never do that. I baby my baby. Sometimes I would go WOT, but never launch or power shift
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Old 12-21-2012, 07:33 PM   #24
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its a normal whine i have it on my 2012 wrx as well since day 1 @11miles on odometer...engine and tranny work fine
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Old 12-22-2012, 10:51 PM   #25
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Transmission whine in my car wasn't an issue until I installed the Cobb shift bushings. Then, it was very noticeable. I got used to it, though. I like noise!
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