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Old 01-04-2013, 04:12 PM   #1
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Default How to find out if I should get a refund for the MV fee from the stealership?

Before I signed the contract and purchase a new 2013 impreza the stealership salesman told me the Estimated MV Fees are $302.00 and they told me that if the it comes out to be less than what I paid for they will give me back the remaining of unused amount.

So now I got my real registration and the real metal plates instead of the "paper" plates. I called the stealership and asked them how much were the DMV fee's and when should I receive a refund for the unused funds and guess what they said. "Actually looks like we calculated it to the exact amount of $302 and all the funds you paid for are used to register the vehicle."

It's hard for me to believe them that they calculated it to the exact amount. I just feel like they're lying to me and don't want to refund me what I deserve. Isn't it illegal for dealerships to not refund the remaining of unused MV fees?

Is there a way to find out how much was the actual amount used to register the vehicle or "MV fee" was used?

Felt like I just got raped out of my wallet blindly.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:13 PM   #2
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Go to the website of your state RMV and find the formula?

Its not hard to calculate the reg fees of a new car..
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:15 PM   #3
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Go to the website of your state RMV and find the formula?

Its not hard to calculate the reg fees of a new car..
But is there a way to obtain actual records as evidence?

Even if I calculated the amount it'll be my words against theirs when I bring it up to them. They will come up with more lies.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:16 PM   #4
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Call the RMV?

Ask the dealership for a receipt?
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:17 PM   #5
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Call the RMV?

Ask the dealership for a receipt?
AH ! Why didn't I thought of that, I should ask them for the receipt. Thanks !!

But afraid they going to say they don't have it or can't give it to me.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:19 PM   #6
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Assuming the worst will definitely get you far in life.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:20 PM   #7
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Assuming the worst will definitely get you far in life.
LOL

I'll post update when I get in touch with them again.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:34 PM   #8
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It doesn't matter what the actual fees were. If the dealership did the running around for you, the rest of your money went towards 'runners'.

Next time, ask the dealership for your paperwork, and then you can waste a day going to your DMV/RMV and stand in line yourself. You're paying them for a service.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:40 PM   #9
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If they used a registration service like regUSA, the amount you paid was probably very close to the real number. Based on the amount you paid I would guess that they did use such a service.
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Old 01-04-2013, 04:50 PM   #10
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When I buy a car, the dealer breaks it down:

runner's fee $15
Sales Tax $1687.50 (6.25% of $27,000)
Title Fee $75
Registration Fee $24

How the hell could a dealer not be able to figure it out to the penny ahead of time?

fill in your profile and we'll have some clue what state you're in. Or what country. We don't know the fees in Equador.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:00 PM   #11
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When I buy a car, the dealer breaks it down:

runner's fee $15
Sales Tax $1687.50 (6.25% of $27,000)
Title Fee $75
Registration Fee $24

How the hell could a dealer not be able to figure it out to the penny ahead of time?

fill in your profile and we'll have some clue what state you're in. Or what country. We don't know the fees in Equador.
I live in NYC but purchased my car in NJ. Registered my new subie in NYC.

MV Fees: 294.00 (Temp Tag, Registration, Title, etc)
Document Fee: 189.00

That is what the dealer break down with me, but it doesn't show runner fee...title fee...registration fee....

Yours come out to be $114...that's nearly 3x less than what I paid for. BTW did you have to paid doc fee?
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:05 PM   #12
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Massachusetts is not NYC.

The Doc fee is separate from the reg fees. Most people pay for it.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:06 PM   #13
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Massachusetts is not NYC.

The Doc fee is separate from the reg fees. Most people pay for it.
Yeah, but still shouldn't be such a big difference... $294 vs $114
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:12 PM   #14
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Yeah, but still shouldn't be such a big difference... $294 vs $114
What the **** part of different states dont you understand? Some states are more expensive than others. Some have more bull**** fees than others.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:07 PM   #15
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I paid exactly 300 for the DMV myself so they sound right on.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:08 PM   #16
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I paid exactly 300 for the DMV myself so they sound right on.
Oh really...I'm not doing something right on the DMV registration calculator...
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:11 PM   #17
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Quick search says:

$47 (2 years reg)
$25 (plates)
$50 (title)
$30 (NYC Use Tax 2 yrs)
$50 (NYC Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District Tax 2 yrs)
=$202 + Sales Tax

$100 sounds about right for a runner fee.
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:13 PM   #18
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Quick search says:

$47 (2 years reg)
$25 (plates)
$50 (title)
$30 (NYC Use Tax 2 yrs)
$50 (NYC Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District Tax 2 yrs)
=$202 + Sales Tax
That's what I got ! $202 ! But how did you get the break down? I don't see the break down in my screen.

Even if it's $202 plus 8.875% tax it'll be $219.93, the dealership still owes me $74.07 difference which can get me a font hood protector.....or mud flaps....or cargo tray...
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:17 PM   #19
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OP, did you happen to get this in writing?
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Old 01-04-2013, 05:22 PM   #20
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OP, did you happen to get this in writing?
Yes I have it in my email and I think it's even in the sales contract since it's a law.
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Old 01-22-2013, 12:58 PM   #21
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$47 (2 years reg)
$25 (plates)
$50 (title)
$30 (NYC Use Tax 2 yrs)
$50 (NYC Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District Tax 2 yrs)
=$202 + Sales Tax

$100 sounds about right for a runner fee.
You're looking at a law in California. As has been mentioned above, rules, regs, fees, laws, etc. all change state to state. Don't call or email the dealer.
Go down there.
Tell (don't ask) them that you want to go over the final bill and see all charges, fees, etc.

Look at what Vision wrote above. That's probably what it is.

Please stop asking us to help you verify what the $294 was. Ask the people who are charging you. It's like asking us why the sandwich at your local shop is $9.50 when everyone else on this forum is buying sandwiches at $7.75. Talk with your sandwich maker and find out why it costs what it costs.

Also, if you can't afford eating the $75 difference that you claim is yours, you probably shouldn't have bought the new car. Just a side though.
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:01 PM   #22
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You're looking at a law in California. As has been mentioned above, rules, regs, fees, laws, etc. all change state to state. Don't call or email the dealer.
Go down there.
Tell (don't ask) them that you want to go over the final bill and see all charges, fees, etc.

Look at what Vision wrote above. That's probably what it is.

Please stop asking us to help you verify what the $294 was. Ask the people who are charging you. It's like asking us why the sandwich at your local shop is $9.50 when everyone else on this forum is buying sandwiches at $7.75. Talk with your sandwich maker and find out why it costs what it costs.

Also, if you can't afford eating the $75 difference that you claim is yours, you probably shouldn't have bought the new car. Just a side though.
Thank you all for your help.

It's not that I can't afford eating the $75, it's the principle. Why should I be out $75 extra when it's supposed to be my money?
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Yeah I know, I guess I can't complain though, better than no one replying to me.

So anyway, the dealer got back to me and this is what he broke down into.

Registration Fee: 48.50 (Isn't is $47?) - 2911lbs curb weight
Use Tax: 30.00 (ok confirmed by vision.dynamix)
Plate Fee 25.00 (ok confirmed by vision.dynamix)
Metro Comm Transport Fee: 50.00 (WTF???)
Title Certificate Fee: 50.00 (ok confirmed by vision.dynamix)
Out of State Temp 7.00 (ok, $7 fine, whatever)
Vendor Fee 75.00 (WTF???)
Total: $285.50 - I paid $294!

Does this look right to you guys?

I never heard of Metro Comm Transport Fee and Vendor Fee.
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$47 (2 years reg)
$25 (plates)
$50 (title)
$30 (NYC Use Tax 2 yrs)
$50 (NYC Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District Tax 2 yrs)
=$202 + Sales Tax

$100 sounds about right for a runner fee.
The Vendor fee is what they charged you to do the legwork.

Or..you know..you can ask them to explain the charges you dont understand.
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Old 01-22-2013, 05:02 PM   #24
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The Vendor fee is what they charged you to do the legwork.

Or..you know..you can ask them to explain the charges you dont understand.
Yeah I thought it was that too...but can they legally do that? Charge the remaining and claim it as "vendor fee"? I mean...they can charge whatever they want then right? Like if someone overpaid $300, they can just say it's our legwork charges. Can they legally do that? I mean...I already paid for the doc fee isn't that what's their legwork for?

I'm just ranting...don't mind me.

But yes I have emailed them back asking them what the hell are those charges for, if they do indeed respond saying it is legwork I will shoot back at them with their already charged $189 DOC FEE which is their legwork fee.

Damn crooks.
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Sales tax isnt on the fees, its on the price you paid for the car.

8.875% of $20k is $1775.
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