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Old 03-05-2013, 09:05 AM   #1
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Default Ferrari F70 Revealed. LaFerrari.

Here it is. 800 engine horsepower, 163 electric horsepower, 1200kg (2650lbs).

http://www.laferrari.com/en/

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Old 03-05-2013, 09:50 AM   #2
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I'd like to be the first to say, I can't wait to watch some hot chick decide she needs to sit in one climbing over all of the body work in a nice short skirt...
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:03 AM   #3
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Hey! A hybrid I'd actually like to own!
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:06 AM   #4
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one has to ask with 800 HP did it really need the electric motor?

I mean seriously.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:22 AM   #6
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one has to ask with 800 HP did it really need the electric motor?

I mean seriously.
Yes. Apparently McLaren thought the same thing, so they aren't alone. Oh, and Porsche too.

Finally more F1 tech is trickling down to street cars.
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:54 AM   #7
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one has to ask with 800 HP did it really need the electric motor?

I mean seriously.
Why not have a KERS in it?
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:06 AM   #8
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Why not have a KERS in it?
They are calling it "HY-KERS".
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:08 AM   #9
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one has to ask with 800 HP did it really need the electric motor?

I mean seriously.
Here is their justification:

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The high levels of torque available at low revs from the electric motor allowed the engineers to optimise the internal combustion engine’s performance at higher revs, thus providing unending power throughout the rev range and a maximum torque peak of over 900 Nm.
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Old 03-06-2013, 02:41 AM   #10
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I'd rather have an f40. Last model of the pure ferrari before they became computer operated fighter jets.
no thanks to the horrendous turbo lag. i hear the car is a blast to drive, but i'd take an NA V12 599 any day.

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one has to ask with 800 HP did it really need the electric motor?

I mean seriously.
fyi, mclaren's reason for adding one to the p1 is so you can enter emissions regulated parts of town.
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fyi, mclaren's reason for adding one to the p1 is so you can enter emissions regulated parts of town.
While I'm sure that's a reason, they very specifically state they designed the electric motor and power control system for filling in the gaps in the torque curve left by the turbo powerplant (i.e. lag compensation/throttle response improvement).
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Old 03-05-2013, 10:18 AM   #12
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wheres the rear wing?
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Old 03-07-2013, 05:30 PM   #13
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wheres the rear wing?
It's not as exclusive or fast as an STI, so it doesn't need one. I talked to the Ferrari president, that's how I know. True Story
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wow that's a lot of front overhang
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You did not answer my question...

You arguement is because other car companies had it, they had to have it too. Lets here it for following a trend nobody asked for. Or rather lets here it for building a car with features that nobody asks for.

Does it need it? No. They are just playing monkey see monkey do and adding things because somebody else did. But in the end, does it add to the driving experience, or is just something else to brag about having so people can go OOO and AAA at cars and coffee on sunday because that is the only place this car will probably ever be driven.

But part of me likes this car for the sheer and complete mentalness of it. This thing is more of an exercise in craftsmanship and engineering than anything else. Like the McLaren, it is a showcase of what they CAN do.

Is the Electric motor needed. Um no. Not even a little. The car would probably be better without the extra weight associated with the motor and batteries. Does the Electric motor give the software more to play with. Aboslutely. Does it add to the capability to put up numbers, most likely. Does it make it more fun than an 800 HP Ferrari motor? Probably not.
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Old 03-05-2013, 11:42 AM   #17
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You did not answer my question...

You arguement is because other car companies had it, they had to have it too. Lets here it for following a trend nobody asked for. Or rather lets here it for building a car with features that nobody asks for.

Does it need it? No. They are just playing monkey see monkey do and adding things because somebody else did. But in the end, does it add to the driving experience, or is just something else to brag about having so people can go OOO and AAA at cars and coffee on sunday because that is the only place this car will probably ever be driven.

But part of me likes this car for the sheer and complete mentalness of it. This thing is more of an exercise in craftsmanship and engineering than anything else. Like the McLaren, it is a showcase of what they CAN do.

Is the Electric motor needed. Um no. Not even a little. The car would probably be better without the extra weight associated with the motor and batteries. Does the Electric motor give the software more to play with. Aboslutely. Does it add to the capability to put up numbers, most likely. Does it make it more fun than an 800 HP Ferrari motor? Probably not.
Nobody asked for this!

Car is sold out before being unveiled.
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Nobody asked for this!

Car is sold out before being unveiled.
The people who bought this car did not ask for the electric motor. Do not be completely assinine.

Certain buyers who qualify to buy this car were told they were going to make a new F70 and would they like the 'privledge' of being allowed to buy it first, they said yes.

If it had a shark tank for an engine they would have been sold out.

Do not mistake excusivity for anything else.
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The people who bought this car did not ask for the electric motor. Do not be completely assinine.

Certain buyers who qualify to buy this car were told they were going to make a new F70 and would they like the 'privledge' of being allowed to buy it first, they said yes.

If it had a shark tank for an engine they would have been sold out.

Do not mistake excusivity for anything else.
So your problem is what, again? That it's not a 240Z?
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You can justify a 3 lb hamburger and having sex with a fat chick.

I know why it is there. It is there to produce better numbers. But what I wonder is if it would have driven better without the added weight. Cars like this are sold to people with enourmously huge egos, only bettered by their enourmous wealth!

Car companies know this. They need to produce the car that can produce the best numbers to give their customers bragging rights over the people who bought 'lesser' cars.

It has nothing to do with fun, or driveability, or being connected with the road, or engaged in the experience. These cars are built to put up better numbers than the comptition. THAT is why they had to have an Electric motor, as they would be giving up a tenth or so to the competition.

When driven flat out by a professional driver using 100% of its capability it must produce better numbers than the competition's car driven flat out by a professional driver at 100%. This is the mission of the super car. Granted the average customer would die if he ever used more than 40% of the cars speed. These kinds of cars are not bought for speed, they are bought for image.

In many ways these cars are exactly the same as a Tesla or a Fisker. Which is fine, as people have the right to buy whatever they want.

Would this car be fun to drive. Um yeah, I am sure that it would be in much the same way as riding a stupid fast roller coaster. The lunacy of the speed would make it exhilerating. Would I want one. Nope not even a little. I would much rather have a 458 or even better a vintage Ferrari.
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You can justify a 3 lb hamburger and having sex with a fat chick.

I know why it is there. It is there to produce better numbers. But what I wonder is if it would have driven better without the added weight. Cars like this are sold to people with enourmously huge egos, only bettered by their enourmous wealth!

Car companies know this. They need to produce the car that can produce the best numbers to give their customers bragging rights over the people who bought 'lesser' cars.

It has nothing to do with fun, or driveability, or being connected with the road, or engaged in the experience. These cars are built to put up better numbers than the comptition. THAT is why they had to have an Electric motor, as they would be giving up a tenth or so to the competition.

When driven flat out by a professional driver using 100% of its capability it must produce better numbers than the competition's car driven flat out by a professional driver at 100%. This is the mission of the super car. Granted the average customer would die if he ever used more than 40% of the cars speed. These kinds of cars are not bought for speed, they are bought for image.

In many ways these cars are exactly the same as a Tesla or a Fisker. Which is fine, as people have the right to buy whatever they want.

Would this car be fun to drive. Um yeah, I am sure that it would be in much the same way as riding a stupid fast roller coaster. The lunacy of the speed would make it exhilerating. Would I want one. Nope not even a little. I would much rather have a 458 or even better a vintage Ferrari.
Ahh who cares man

Companies are there to make money, never gonna change. It's not a non profit organization to produce fun cars solely for the customers fantasy.

They build these cars for R&D and they sell them to fund this R&D.

There are tons of fun cars around, let them build what they want with their funding. Besides, how do you know the 918, F70, P1 or whatever is not fun and engaging

Just because automobiles have electric motors, does not mean it is not fun or engaging. It's a new era in automotive experience. You can't get stuck in an era where the automobiles were more primitive and mechanical, it's a different era.

I can't wait to see when cars hover.
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Ahh who cares man

Companies are there to make money, never gonna change. It's not a non profit organization to produce fun cars solely for the customers fantasy.

They build these cars for R&D and they sell them to fund this R&D.

There are tons of fun cars around, let them build what they want with their funding. Besides, how do you know the 918, F70, P1 or whatever is not fun and engaging

Just because automobiles have electric motors, does not mean it is not fun or engaging. It's a new era in automotive experience. You can't get stuck in an era where the automobiles were more primitive and mechanical, it's a different era.

I can't wait to see when cars hover.
Um you do know that electric motors are far more primative machines than Internal Combustion Engines right?

I can get stuck in what I like. Change for the sake of change is not always a good thing. I have accepted fuel injection, anti lock brakes, and even stability control in some cases. Change for the sake of change is dumb. Change for the improvement of the product is good. IF and only IF you agree what is being improved needed to be improved in the first place.

You blindly embrace all technology with open arms. I do not. Still this car is doing what it is designed to do. Be a techology showcase while making a $$$ ton of money.

And it looks cool.
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Um you do know that electric motors are far more primative machines than Internal Combustion Engines right?

I can get stuck in what I like. Change for the sake of change is not always a good thing. I have accepted fuel injection, anti lock brakes, and even stability control in some cases. Change for the sake of change is dumb. Change for the improvement of the product is good. IF and only IF you agree what is being improved needed to be improved in the first place.

You blindly embrace all technology with open arms. I do not. Still this car is doing what it is designed to do. Be a techology showcase while making a $$$ ton of money.

And it looks cool.
Don't be ignorant, you know what I mean.

This is not change for the sake of change. It's called innovation. Automotive design has reached its peaks decades ago, gotta have to come up with something fresh.

Any car in any era is a technology showcase. The F70 would be primitive in a decade, who knows what they will come up with.

I'm still waiting for a hover car and I bet exotics will be the first to bring the technology to the market. There are hovering car prototypes, but i'm talking about when it is done right.
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Can't believe we've gotten to two pages in this thread without anyone commenting on how LaStupid the name is.
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Who cares about the "why"? I'm just pumped to see that electric motor tech has advanced to the point that they're being used to add performance, not just to make the car seem more "green". I don't think the use of an electric motor takes away from this car at all.
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