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Old 12-24-2002, 05:58 PM   #1
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Default Doing a 96l conversion cost....

If I could get a 96 impreza L for like 2k or so (don't care if it runs or not)
how much would it cost me to convert it to a WRX (engine and tranny)
What woulD I need to do this. I was figuring this:
engine, tranny, ecu (the computer), the whole drive train (front, rear, and center difs) bigger brakes (might as well go with the 4 pots), bigger rear brakes, new rims (to fit brakes), tires, possibly new gauge cluster, and a new hood in order to provide air to the intercooler.
What do u guys think for total cost (not including body stuff (execpt for the hood) )
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Old 12-24-2002, 06:00 PM   #2
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who is doing the labor?

Rallispec I believe does them for ermmm 9 grand.

depends on how much you pay for a wrecked WRX, the swap itself is pretty easy, the harness a pain but not that bad...

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Old 12-24-2002, 06:01 PM   #3
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9k for everything?
and yes, I'd bring it to them most likely



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who is doing the labor?

Rallispec I believe does them for ermmm 9 grand.

depends on how much you pay for a wrecked WRX, the swap itself is pretty easy, the harness a pain but not that bad...

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Old 12-24-2002, 06:06 PM   #4
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Looks like Keith is getting sick of his Girly-Bike
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Old 12-24-2002, 06:07 PM   #5
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Dont quote me, but ive heard 9 grand that includes the drivetrain, as for the hood and stuff that would probably be all add on stuff.

your best bet would be to pick up the L if you can, upgrade the suspension, body, brakes etc, in effect prepare the car for a wrx drivetrain, then do the swap.

if you had an rs it would be more of a drop the wrx drivetrain in and go.

ask your self if you would spend more money updgrading an L to handle a WRX drivetrian, or would it be cheaper to find an RS to just plop the drivetrain in and pretty much be able to drive it out the door.

thats what I would look at if I where going to do it.

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Old 12-24-2002, 06:08 PM   #6
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Looks like Keith is getting sick of his Girly-Bike
either that or he needs something faster to run from the INS in....



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Old 12-24-2002, 06:21 PM   #7
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USDM stuff? Because I think you could do JDM for cheaper.

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Old 12-24-2002, 06:22 PM   #8
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If you're doing it yourself, between $5K and $15K depending on what drivetrain you want.
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Old 12-24-2002, 06:24 PM   #9
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I like the idea of using USDM stuff, cause its here and parts readily available, will pass emmisions, unless you go crazy.

but just dropping a wrx drivetrain in would be enough for me.

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Old 12-24-2002, 06:29 PM   #10
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I like the idea of using USDM stuff, cause its here and parts readily available, will pass emmisions, unless you go crazy.

but just dropping a wrx drivetrain in would be enough for me.

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I didn't say it was better, just cheaper. I'd go with USDM too.

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Old 12-24-2002, 06:33 PM   #11
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no doubt JC , I was just saying why I liked USDM stuff.
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Old 12-24-2002, 06:39 PM   #12
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I'd like to have a US drivetrain and all.
THe only thing I'd like is,
3" exhuast with high flow.
Bov (mad rice yo.com )
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As for suspension and stuff, I'd probably just get KYBs or something, I totally forgot about suspension.
Basicly, I just want an ugly ass L to have a US wrx (possibly sti engine when the idiot n00bz get their hands on them and crash them) drive train.
Not really many bells and whistles, I don't care about the body yet, I just want something fairly cheap that is reliable and turbo, and awd

So, if I was to go with a 2002 US wrx engine,tranny and drive train with 15k or so on the clock. KYB/agx toys, 99RS rims and a aluminum or CF hood, what do u guys think (with labor)
I don't want to call places asking them yet, becase this is just something that i want to do for my next car, I just don't know when i can do it.
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Old 12-24-2002, 06:43 PM   #13
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You could get a JDM motor for literally half what a USDM one would cost you. And you'd get a better block to boot(not the crappy EJ205).
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Old 12-24-2002, 06:48 PM   #14
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You could get a JDM motor for literally half what a USDM one would cost you. And you'd get a better block to boot(not the crappy EJ205).
no shiznat!?
Only probelm I have with that is that the stupid gas thingie. Wouldn't I have to get some kinda ecu or something to make up for our gas? I don't want to carry around octain booster everywhere (stuff is xpensive)
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Old 12-24-2002, 08:38 PM   #15
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Gas difference isn't as big is they make you think as they use different methods of determining octane.

Think about buying a JDM STi block and tranny, and drive trane bits, JDM, and busting a TECII or TECIII. Hell you can buy everything but the block and Call up TurboXS and have them help you with a 2.2 or 2.5 block.

If you are doing that you might just buy aftermarket shafts, and do a modena, MRT, or chalak gear box, which might be equally available and you might get more bang for your buck.

Hell you could even buy a used STi Ver5 or so (7kish) and find some shady cat to do a vin swap.

I've also heard doing the conversion yourself is a monumental PITA.
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Old 12-24-2002, 09:54 PM   #16
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Check with Lachute Subaru.
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Old 12-24-2002, 10:55 PM   #17
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Look no further...

I am selling my GC-WRX conversion (64k miles ,on GC chassis, 12k miles on 2002 EJ20 motor) for $17k obo. if you want to see some pix, go to members gallery and look under my username.


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Old 12-24-2002, 11:55 PM   #18
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Look no further...

I am selling my GC-WRX conversion (64k miles ,on GC chassis, 12k miles on 2002 EJ20 motor) for $17k obo. if you want to see some pix, go to members gallery and look under my username.


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Cal's car is the SHIZNAT yo.com

Built and tuned by Bill & Chris of I-Speed fame. Check out the BAIC forum for any info regarding Cal's car, or Bill & Chris's M4d pHa+ skillz yo.com

All I was wondering was, why didn't ANYONE have an RS for sale after crashed... took about a year, now there are RS's everywhere!!!
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Old 12-25-2002, 12:02 AM   #19
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once again, u people are talking like I have money.

I'm lookin to get a car soon, but get the best bang for the buck (.com)
I can't bust out 17k anywhere. I'm hoping to get a cheap ass pos impreza L and converting it little by little over time. First thing to do would be the engine and tranny, and it will probably be the only thing I do until I get out of skool (the year 2098), so I'm not realling looking for a kick ass car.
naw I mean yo!?
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Old 12-25-2002, 04:49 AM   #20
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just get all your betoches to startin paying up on time and you should be 4ll g00d in da h00d yo.com!!!

in reality though, $7g's to upwards to who knows where is a likely possibility and the only HUGE PITA other than the labor itself would be the wiring...
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Old 12-27-2002, 12:29 AM   #21
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It'll cost a lot more than you think. If you don't have $$$ to burn, don't go down this road. Or at least, just drop in a USDM WRX motor, and do an FP turbo upgrade, and call 300 hp good.
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Old 12-27-2002, 12:34 AM   #22
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no shiznat!?
Only probelm I have with that is that the stupid gas thingie. Wouldn't I have to get some kinda ecu or something to make up for our gas? I don't want to carry around octain booster everywhere (stuff is xpensive)
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The Jap. spec engines are tuned to run on 91ish octane, so no problem there.
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Old 12-27-2002, 01:25 AM   #23
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The Jap. spec engines are tuned to run on 91ish octane, so no problem there.
From what I hear, early WRX ecus are more flexible to lower octane gas. All JDM WRX's are tuned for 100 RON. To put that in perspective, Sunoco told me in an email that their 94 octane is 99 RON. So there is no pump gas available that a jdm ecu will be able to really stretch its legs with. I ran Ultra 94 with GTA fuel enhancer using a Rallispec tuned standalone. Rallispec tuned it off a base map for 100 RON, and they still had to pull major timing under load/boost. And an intercooler upgrade made me need more fuel. If you don't pick your mods very carefully, you will have problems.

If I could do it again, I would go with a USDM '02 motor/ecu only, as its completely legal that way. I would do an FP turbo upgrade, exhaust, and Walboro or Supra fuel pump, and run 1 bar, so it still looks completely stock, but delivers close to 300 hp. I no longer believe the stock L and RS trannies are a problem. My stock L tranny went on a turbo'd car pushing well over WRX power levels, and held up fine for the past year, and is still going. Its all in how you shift.

So, the WRX motor w/ecu will run you $2000. Turbo upgrade is $650, exhaust is ~$600-800, and fuel pump is $125. So that's a budget of ~$3600 for nearly 300 hp. Plus the suspension and brakes should be upgraded. And I wouldn't blame anyone for wanting to upgrade the crap stock seats. Even in this best case scenario, you're looking at minimum of 5 G's, plus labor will run 2-4 G's, depending. My advice is don't do a swap unless you have at least 50% more cash on hand than you think you'll need. Anyway, enough of my rambling, what do I know, I'm just a bitter Scooby driver who wrecked a wonderful EJ20 swap...
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