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Old 04-11-2003, 06:59 AM   #1
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Default Fisi Wins. Fisi Wins. Fisi Wins

From F1 Live: Giancarlo Fisichella has been awarded the win at Brazil. Fisi is a good guy, and I'm glad to see him get his first win. I'm also pleased for Eddie Jordan, who needs some success.

What a season so far. At least we've avoided a McLaren sweep.
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Old 04-11-2003, 09:01 AM   #2
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HOO-EFFIN-RAY. At least "they" got something right.
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Old 04-11-2003, 09:05 AM   #3
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I'm very happy for Fisi and Eddie. It's just too bad they couldn't celebrate properly on the podium. Let's hope this helps Eddie get some sponsorship for the team, I would hate to see Jordan go the route of Prost and Arrows.
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Old 04-11-2003, 09:09 AM   #4
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YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is good news. Certainly Kimi didn't deserve that win for the mistake he made. Even better is that Jordan are clearly a sponser or two short of a full package so this gives them some legitimacy which they can use to sure up some more money.

Too bad GF didn't get his podium celebration, but he's now a GP winner, which I think everybody expected from him all along.

I wonder what Ron Dennis will have to say about this....
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Old 04-11-2003, 10:13 AM   #5
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Great news for Fisi and Jordan! Let's hope this isn't the end of the line for excitement - 2003 has been a cracking season so far.

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Old 04-11-2003, 10:21 AM   #6
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From autosport.com:

Fisichella declared Brazilian GP winner
FIA overturns result as timekeepers admit scoring error At last! Fisichella can now celebrate his first ever GP win
Giancarlo Fisichella has been confirmed as the winner of the Brazilian Grand Prix after the FIA, the sport's governing body, overturned the result issued on Sunday that had declared McLaren's Kimi Raikkonen as the victor. The timekeepers of the race admitted they had made an error, and one more lap had been completed than was originally thought.

Fisichella took the lead of the race from Raikkonen on lap 54 and crossed the line at the head of the field. The serious accidents of Mark Webber (Jaguar) and Fernando Alonso (Renault) on the start/finish straight then caused the race to be stopped, but not until lap 56 not 55 as originally thought as Fisichella had crossed the line once again. That meant the results were backdated by two laps to the end of the 54th tour, with the Italian in the lead.

"I am very happy that the FIA and everybody recognises that I won the Brazilian Grand Prix," said Fisichella, who scored his first win from 110 attempts. "I already thought this was the case, and the team believed it straight away and then, in recent days, when the evidence was examined, we knew it was true and hoped it would become official.

"It was very difficult for me, with the confusion after the race, and I'm still disappointed that I didn't have my moment at the top of the podium, but I am pleased that it is clear now that I have won my first grand prix! I'm looking forward to more podiums and wins in the future."

_His team boss Eddie Jordan said: "Sunday's race was absolutely thrilling and I'm very grateful to the FIA for examining the results in such detail and acknowledging the victory is Giancarlo's. It was a hazardous race and he demonstrated great talent and maturity, as did all the drivers.

"Obviously it's a shame that the results weren't accurately reported immediately as it would have been better if Giancarlo had been able to celebrate his first win in the normal fashion on the top step of the podium, but I hope that opportunity will come again soon. It is terrific news for us to record our fourth grand prix victory and it proves that we are still able to challenge the top teams."

The amended result means Fisichella wins from Raikkonen, Alonso and David Coulthard (McLaren), Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Sauber) and Jacques Villeneuve (BAR). Webber loses his seventh place finish, as he had not crossed the line on lap 54, so Ralf Schumacher (Williams) and Jarno Trulli (Renault) complete the point scorers.
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Old 04-11-2003, 10:56 AM   #7
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That is very cool, and I watched the tape again, and Fisi did indeed begin lap 56. Plus, the way that he passed Kimi (who was pitting, according to Inside F1) was unreal. It is too bad that he couldn't have the podium fun, but things are made right, which is most important.

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Old 04-11-2003, 11:05 AM   #8
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i totaly disagree ..

i thought the rule was unfair until
his car caught fire with in the next lap. so he would not have won

FIA:monkey:
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Old 04-11-2003, 11:08 AM   #9
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updated results.

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1. Giancarlo Fisichella - Jordan
2. Kimi Raikkonen - McLaren
3. Fernando Alonso  Renault
4. David Coulthard - McLaren
5. Heinz-Harald Frentzen - Sauber
6. Jacques Villeneuve - BAR
7. Ralf Schumacher - Williams
8. Jarno Trulli  Renault
9. Mark Webber - Jaguar :(
10. Cristiano Da Matta - Toyota


Drivers:
1. Kimi Raikkonen - 24pts
2. David Coulthard  15
3. Fernando Alonso  14
4. Giancarlo Fisichella  10:D 
5. Jarno Trulli  9
6. Juan Pablo Montoya  8
7. Rubens Barrichello  8
8. Michael Schumacher  8
9. Ralf Schumacher  8
10. Heinz-Harald Frentzen  7
11. Jacques Villeneuve  3
12. Jenson Button  2
13. Nick Heidfeld - 1
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Old 04-11-2003, 11:28 AM   #10
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i totaly disagree ..

i thought the rule was unfair until
his car caught fire with in the next lap. so he would not have won

FIA:monkey:
But Kimi was pitting, and who knows what would have happened in the pits? You can also argue that it was the stopping, not the going that made Fisi's car ignite. Often, F1 cars don't like being stationary, to the point that they overheat, sometimes catastrophically. Let's not forget that Fisichella's car showed no signs of doing anything except kicking out the jams while it was rolling.

The Jordan engineers were probably rejoicing, as an F1 car is made to last the race distance!

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Old 04-11-2003, 11:37 AM   #11
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Quote:
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i totaly disagree ..

i thought the rule was unfair until
his car caught fire with in the next lap. so he would not have won

FIA:monkey:
Disagree until you are blue in the face, the fact is that what COULD have happened doesn't matter. What DID happen is that Fisi won the race.
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Old 04-11-2003, 05:06 PM   #12
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Quote:
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i totaly disagree ..

i thought the rule was unfair until
his car caught fire with in the next lap. so he would not have won

FIA:monkey:
Disagree with WHAT? The fact that the FIA correceted a mistake made by T&S @ Brazil? The rule didn't change, Brazil's timing and scoring just messed up. They still applied the 2 lap rule, it just turns out the Fisi had started lap 56, so he was actually in the lead 2 laps before.

How would you like to determine a winner; let's explore the options:

2-lap rule: Fisi wins! Leading end of lap 54.

Leader at race stop: Fisi wins again! Leading at time of red-flag

Your car can grenade on the final stretch, and if you roll across the line first, you win. What happens 15 seconds, a minute, or 4 hours later doesn't matter. You can postulate all you want about what might have happened on lap 63, but it doesn't matter.
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Old 04-11-2003, 06:10 PM   #13
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I wonder what Ron Dennis will have to say about this....
``I'm pleased that any confusion has now been cleared up,'' McLaren chairman Ron Dennis said in a statement. ``The evidence presented leaves no doubt that Giancarlo and Jordan are the winners.''


Picked that up off an AP story. Class act.

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Old 04-12-2003, 10:26 AM   #14
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I lost a little bit of respect for Kimi at the podium celebration when he didnt do anything to acknowledge the fact that Fisichella may have one the race (like letting him put a hand on the trophy or something) or that the 3rd place finisher was in an ambulance. Fisi did point over to the 3rd place podium and make some statement to those around him. No idea what it was though. Kimi just jumped around as if he deserved it, and I'm guessing he knew in his heart of hearts that he didnt.
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