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View Poll Results: What do you think of the DCCD display hack idea for auto mode?
Great idea, where can I buy one? Please accept all my money. 35 76.09%
I could care less. 10 21.74%
That is the worst idea I've ever heard. 1 2.17%
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Old 07-17-2003, 02:35 AM   #1
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How about this: a hack that causes the DCCD display (the little triangles) to show the actual amount of lockup applied when the car is in auto mode (the display is typically dark then other than the auto light).

In other words, as the wheels slip, you'd see the setting move up on its own.

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Old 07-17-2003, 02:47 AM   #2
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Great idea! I have no idea how it would be done, but great idea.

There should be a SOA suggestion box forum for stuff like that. That way the 2005's would have it.
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Old 07-17-2003, 05:19 AM   #3
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Good idea, but you should be looking where you are driving instead of worring about what the system is doing automatically.
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Old 07-17-2003, 06:54 AM   #4
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great idea!
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Old 07-17-2003, 06:57 AM   #5
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There should be a 4th option. "I am a lawyer and think this a great idea so i could sue your arse when my client crashes and blames being distracted"

Nice Idea Glenn, but its full of potential for being sued. Saying that, the skyline has a similar display that shows the centre diff action.
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Old 07-17-2003, 07:08 AM   #6
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i cant believe it! there i was driving along, when i noticed that this thing started moving around right under my nose. next thing i know, i couldnt stop looking at it! i crashed right into a tree! that will teach me to watch my speedometer.

get real. if you crash into a tree, its your own damn fault. and yes, i actually thought of this months ago. i would LOVE this feature...and would pay to have it
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Old 07-17-2003, 08:15 AM   #7
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Default Re: DCCD display hack idea

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Originally posted by Glenn Wallace
How about this: a hack that causes the DCCD display (the little triangles) to show the actual amount of lockup applied when the car is in auto mode (the display is typically dark then other than the auto light).

In other words, as the wheels slip, you'd see the setting move up on its own.

Glenn
Gosh Glenn, what are you doing thinking up ideas at 2:00am!
Would be cool to see a "visual DCCD", but only if the warranty was good and that it is an inexpensive hack. But I vote yes

Cheers,

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Old 07-17-2003, 08:21 AM   #8
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i cant believe it! there i was driving along, when i noticed that this thing started moving around right under my nose. next thing i know, i couldnt stop looking at it! i crashed right into a tree! that will teach me to watch my speedometer.

get real. if you crash into a tree, its your own damn fault. and yes, i actually thought of this months ago. i would LOVE this feature...and would pay to have it
Says he from the land of "coffee is hot" on your cups "objects may be closer than they apear" on your car side mirror "dont microwave dry your dog" in the owners instructions etc etc
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Old 07-17-2003, 10:14 AM   #9
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Err, don't know if you noticed but the tachometer and speedomotor move as you drive..... do they distract you?

Oh, and the red light on the tachometer!!!
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Old 07-17-2003, 10:23 AM   #10
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Err, don't know if you noticed but the tachometer and speedomotor move as you drive..... do they distract you?

Oh, and the red light on the tachometer!!!
I think the difference here is that I'm rarely tempted to look at the tach or speedo when I'm at the limits of adhesion. The 'DCCD display' would be of interest at that moment and I'd hate to have my attention split.

Can you design the display to replay what happened to the DCCD in the previous 2 minutes, so I can review it right after I hit the !@#$%$$!^&^$$!#$% tree?

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Old 07-17-2003, 11:22 AM   #11
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How about a "heads up display"?
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Old 07-17-2003, 12:37 PM   #12
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I was thinking that instead of a moving dot it would be a moving bar graph display when in auto mode, ie if it went to full lock all the lights would illuminate, half way, then the bottom half would light up, etc.

Much easier to see without looking at.

Now you guys should wait another 12 months while I do nothing about it.
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Old 07-17-2003, 10:05 PM   #13
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Cool! Surely you could pull this somehow from the TCU?? The key is how to tap into it and decode it..
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Old 07-17-2003, 10:19 PM   #14
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Um, when you're actually driving the car hard, wouldn't you want the DCCD on a fixed setting, so that it doesn't do something funky on you?

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Old 07-18-2003, 02:42 AM   #15
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Um, when you're actually driving the car hard, wouldn't you want the DCCD on a fixed setting, so that it doesn't do something funky on you?

Kevin
I think that remains to be seen. 'Funky' may be faster once you learn to handle it. The rally cars are multi-mode with an automatic mode too.

I agree that the DCCD may not feel good, but that doesn't mean it won't help you pull through corners better once you learn to predict it.
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Old 07-18-2003, 03:04 AM   #16
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Yeah! Do it!

I was actually thinking/wondering how to do the same thing for other Subarus...
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Old 07-18-2003, 10:28 AM   #17
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I agree that the DCCD may not feel good, but that doesn't mean it won't help you pull through corners better once you learn to predict it.
Actually the DCCD behaves pretty predictably. The front diff however, that's another story. I really think the front diff should have been open with the Suretrac as an option for those who really wanted it. It takes a LOT of getting used to.

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Old 07-18-2003, 02:21 PM   #18
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It would be cool, but not too practical.

Scenario 1.
As you are driving steady in auto-mode the light would default to some setting...likely open diff. Basically not much to look at in that case.

Scenario 2.
You encounter a turn, hit the brakes, turn, throttle, off-throttle, the DCCD lights are flashing back and forth as the car ballances itself through the turn...

...are you seriously going to be looking which light happens to be on, rather than paying attention to the road in the middle of a turn?

...but it would be cool though.

I GOT IT!!!!
It should have a "data logging mode"!!
...as you drive it records the diff settings that could be downloaded and analyzed with other readings ...
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Old 07-18-2003, 03:01 PM   #19
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On that british show, Top Speed or wahtever, they show the Skyline GTR R34 displaying his lateral Gs and while he's testing those lateral G's he's pointing at it saying "you have to see how far you can get it off the center!" He was on an airfield so he didn't have to watch where he was actually going but it IS an option on the computer. So why not a light that tells you how your DCCD works?
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is the Skyline an Official Import to the USA?
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Old 07-18-2003, 05:42 PM   #21
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no... nissan does not import any skylines, but you can get one through MotoRex in CA: http://www.motorex.net Check out those prices!!!



Emissions Conversion
R34 $25k
R33 $17-25K
R32 $16K

Rumor has it that when Nissan finally does release the new Skyline it will come to America.

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Old 07-18-2003, 08:21 PM   #22
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Bet you if they ever do import it oficially they take that G meter out of the car.
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Old 07-20-2003, 12:27 AM   #23
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Hi guys,

Just thought I would put in my opinion and correction to some of the things you guys said.

I happened to own a R34 GTR imported by Motorex, the following are only my personal opinion, I am a car enthusist just like all of you. I said that because I am tired of all the stereo type people have just because I paid a lot for my car. Honestly I love all good sports car.

First of all, I love the STi. I am in the process of finding a dealer near me to purchase a STi at a decent price. I am jealous of you guys on the East coast where you can buy the STi below MSRP.

johnfelstead...........that G meter does not come stock with the GTR from Nissan Japan. It is an upgrade from Nismo. Some of the R34 GTR from Nissan UK come with it from the dealer because the dealer put in the Nismo module.

The R34 GTR do come stock with a front torque meter, essentially the same as a DCCD display you guys are discussing about. It is a very nice display readout, but after all it is just a toy/gadget. G-shock sums it up very nicely, during normal straight line driving where you can actually take your eyes off the road to look at it, it is nothing exciting to look at, the front wheel just get a little bit of power during hard acceleration, big deal right And when it is actually fun to see what the 4WD system is doing automatically, it is in situration where either you are going full bore thru some mountain road in some remote canyon road at 100+mph, or drifting thru a corner where you have your hand full trying to drive the car while enjoying it. Simply put, you will NEVER look at the readout display. There are quite a few parameters my GTR display on the LCD screen, the only thing I look at now during normal driving is the oil temp., water temp. and boost pressure. All the other display are just cool to show people that haven't seen it before. The display on the GTR do in fact have a 30 seconds data logging function, the bad thing is it doesn't record. So you have to look at the graph before the 30 seconds is over, guess what, after you pitch the car sideway/power slide the car thru a corner.......and wait until the car is calm down enough to look at the display, the 30 seconds is over
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