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Old 11-02-2003, 05:18 PM   #1
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I'm graduating in December from UCF and want to get away from FL. Mainly the people are too stupid, the weather is to hot for 7-8 months out of the year, and there are NO outdoor activities to do (hiking, camping, mtn biking, snowboarding, etc.) Anyway, after doing some searching online SLC seems like a pretty cool place. From what I've read there is a lot of skiing/snowboarding, outdoors activities, employment, great schools, and low crime. Beyond that, I just really want to live in the mountains now, I miss the curvey roads from back when I lived in CT and OH.

I just want to know what the locals have to say about it. It's either stay here, go to Cincinnati, or possibly SLC now. Help me figure out my future guys!!
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Old 11-02-2003, 09:07 PM   #2
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Why not Colorado - we have everything they have
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Old 11-02-2003, 09:12 PM   #3
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Where in CO would you suggest? Must have a big downtown, preferably over 1 mil people. Not necessarily all within city limits.
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Old 11-02-2003, 09:17 PM   #4
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Yeah denver has a low crime rate

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Well, if you like to get stoned, Boulder would be good.

Colorado Springs is low crime, and about 400,000 population counting all the military from Ft Carson, Peterson AFB and AirForce Academy - as a guess.
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Old 11-03-2003, 02:18 AM   #6
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I may be able to give you some input. I have lived all over the country: Illinois, Connecticut, upstate New York, Texas, Arizona and Utah. I moved here from Scottsdale, AZ and at the time could have moved anywhere. I narrowed down my choices to Denver, SLC, Portland and Seattle. I decided the weather in the pacific northwest wasn't what I wanted to deal with. I chose SLC over Denver for several reasons. Here in SLC, you are literally minutes from the mountains. I can be at Alta/Snowbird in 20 minutes, or be in the "twisties" within about 10. In Denver, you're just not that close to the mountains unless you move west of the city. The crime rate in SLC is pretty low comparatively.... Also, SLC has a better location IMHO. Via car, I can reach Yellowstone National Park in like 5 or 6 hours, Las Vegas in 5.5 hours, and Lake Tahoe in about 8. Not to mention the incredible parks in Utah such as Arches, Canyonlands, Bryce, Zion etc that are only about 3 hours away give or take. Park City is only 40 minutes away from my place. Moab is like 3.5 hours south, the 4-wheeling mecca of the US. Denver is about 8 hours east of here, depending on the route. Cobb Tuning is here, eheh. The people here are overall pretty friendly, although admittedly the whole mormon thing takes some getting used to when you're not from around here. Its no big deal, but religion is definitely on the forefront moreso than anywhere else I've ever been. Being a heathen bastard like myself though, it really has no effect on me. On the plus side, you can go shopping on Sunday and fire a cannon thru the stores since they're so empty. Last year I went Christmas shopping on the Sunday before Christmas and didn't even wait in line at Target. Try that anywhere else in the country. Overall, I'm not sorry I moved here. The outdoor activities are plentiful... skiing, biking, climbing, hiking, etc. If you want to live near the mountains and take advantage of the beautiful western US, this is a great place to be located... The weather here isnt bad either. Summer temps are usually like 95ish as a high (with no humidity) and winter temps aren't that cold either... like maybe 20's at a minimum typically. Yes, it can get colder or hotter than that, but those are just general rules. Typically in the winter in the valley it tends to be 30's - 40's. The wind is bad sometimes though. We do definitely have 4 seasons here. Anyway, just my $.02

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Old 11-03-2003, 12:35 PM   #7
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Old 11-03-2003, 02:26 PM   #8
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Thanks 2003WRX, that was very helpful. I really like the idea of being fairly central to a lot of amazing outdoor locations.
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Old 11-03-2003, 05:38 PM   #9
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I grew up in CO and livedfor 6 mos in SLC. They are fairly similar, except:

- Utah has very few minorities. No diversity.
- The state of Utah owns all liquor stores, and they seem hard to find.
- Skiing/riding is much better in SLC and the resorts are much closer
- Religion absolutely dominates policy in UT
- Strangley enough, some car dealers are open on Sunday in UT
- There are WAY too many kids in Utah. Seriously. You have to visit to get the full effect.
- It's easy to find your way around SLC due to the cool numbering system
- Downtown SLC is tiny. Downtown Denver is much bigger, plus we have other business areas like DTC and Interlocken
- Denver has limited gaming about an hour away. SLC has real gambling 120 miles west in Wendover, NV. You pass through the salt flats on your way
- Thanks to the olympics, SLC has a very nice highway system. Denver's is currently being overhauled and it's a mess in some areas.

Overall, they are pretty similar. I was happy living in SLC and I like living here. I've never been the victim of a crime; that crap is blown way out of proportion.

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Old 11-03-2003, 06:03 PM   #10
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How is the bar/club/night life scene in SLC? Sounds like religion is choking fun in that state.
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Old 11-03-2003, 06:06 PM   #11
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I'm a Bay Area Impreza Club member and will be moving to SLC next summer for a job so I'm also interested in hearing the strenghths and weaknesses of SLC. I'd also like to hear about cool neighborhoods for young, single people in SLC. Things I'd like in an area are relatively quick access to downtown and the mountains, cafes, bars, and cool shops. Thanks for any input.

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Old 11-03-2003, 06:46 PM   #12
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I should let the real UT guys answer these questions, but I'm bored so I'll put in my .02...

Any place that serves liquor and not much food (ie a bar) is a private club, and you have to have a membership. You can get drinks at restaurants, but as I understand it, you have to completely finish one before receiving another.

Also, you can only smoke in private clubs, which is VERY nice. No smoking in restaurants, bowling alleys, etc.

I was underage at the time, so I can't really comment on the club scene.

SLC is in a huge valley and is surrounded by mountains. The Wasatch range, which is home to all the big ski areas, is 1/2 hour or lesss from anywhere in the valley. World famous Alta ski area is literally eight miles from the suburb of Sandy. How's that for easy access? The Great Salt Lake is at ~4400' and the summit of Snowbird is 11,000'. The mountains rise very abruptly out of the valley.

As for cool neighborhoods...I would guess something near the U. of Utah would be best for a young single person. The U. is against the mountains near I-80 with easy access to Park City, which allegedly has the best nightlife. I lived in Midvale and everything I needed was close by. Cheap rent, shopping, dining, entertainment, etc. I could be at Alta in 1/2 hour from my apartment at 72nd & State. It was beautiful. In Denver, it takes a minimum of an hour to get to decent skiing depending on where in the city you live.
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Old 11-03-2003, 06:56 PM   #13
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The only thing that pisses me off about living in SLC is the silly liquor laws. Everything else is fine. Mountains with 400 inches of snow in the winter, mildish winters in the valley (usually), if it's too hot in the summer just go take a drive up one of the canyons. Tons of outdoor recreation. Not much urban entertainment, but that's not my thing anyway.
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Old 11-03-2003, 09:15 PM   #14
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My nightclub days are long gone but there definitely are some clubs, etc in SLC. Park City has several clubs/bars and whatnot. Nightlife is NOT one of SLC's strong points though. We do have plenty of good restaurants if you know where to look. Then there are the dumb liquor laws. I am not a big drinker but in my experience these just cause an inconvenience moreso than preventing anything. There are state owned liquor stores where you can buy pretty much anything. Beer is available at the grocery store. I order beer from places like Chilis and Fridays, etc and you don't have to do anything special, they just bring it to you like anywhere else. There is an interesting law that one person cannot have more than one drink at a time. This just means when they bring you another, they have to take your previous glass. You can't line 'em up here like elsewhere.

Yes, there are alot of kids here. Again, this doesn't affect me all that much. SLC is very family oriented which has a few good byproducts such as low crime rate, etc. Not surprisingly, the LDS church has alot of say in the government. This can be both good and bad I suppose. All in all, none of that affects me badly though. My single biggest complaint with Utah is that the state income tax is very high at 7%. That sucks, although its easily forgivable when you take advantage of the location and scenery.
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Old 11-04-2003, 11:22 AM   #15
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I think SLC has a great location, but I don't think it's that cool of a city. Provo is better IMO, but would be harder to find a good job there because of all the students graduating from BYU.

I live in Denver, and it's a cool city, but the highways are crap and good luck getting up I-70 in the winter time on the weekends. Ski traffic makes the drive time to the resorts ~3 hours. I'd rather live in UT. I've only been riding there once (at Snowbird) and it was the best day of snowboarding I've ever had.
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Old 11-04-2003, 11:50 AM   #16
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SLC has COBB Tuning.....what more do you need

Just kidding. I like it here in SLC...I have great friends here. However when I graduate, I will not only be applying here, but I will be looking in the PNW again and possibly California.

I quit drinking a long time ago, but I remember that if you could find a drink as easy as you could find a glass of water. I've lived in NY, Georgia, DC, Oregon.....its pretty much the same as anywhere else. I love the whole "you need a membership"...you dont need anything. Don't worry, you can always get in they dont care, they want your money. I've never had a problem.

As for religion.....I rarely watch the news or read the paper here, so I could really care less. I am not effected at all. I read Japanese Performance and Rallye XS...and have a dish pumping WRC to my room.

There is plenty of nightlife in SLC, though maybe not as much variety as Portland hold, there is still enough going on to keep me from coming home until 4am on the weekends. And great coffee shops(The Salt Lake Roast and Co. and there is also the Coffe Garden) that are always willing to keep me up while I do my homework during the week.

In my opinion, I would suggest living as close to the sugarhouse area if possible. I have lived right downtown, and while it was rad, I like the rural yet "hip" area that is known as sugerhouse.

For more of an inside look to the local music and nightlife scene, since this is a car site you might want a more specific site for this......I suggest visiting www.therocksalt.com ......its SLC's local music, club, house party site. I am on there daily.

It all depends on what you are looking to do. Then its all down to who you know.

Its snowing outside my office window...whats it doing in florida right now...........nothing, thats right nothing

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I think SLC has a great location, but I don't think it's that cool of a city. Provo is better IMO, but would be harder to find a good job there because of all the students graduating from BYU.
Well, ive lived down in Provofor all of my 25 years. Its a good place, if you like horrible utah drivers and narrow minds. We do have some nice roads up in the mountains, and the Squaw Peak Road is hella tight.
Provo is good, but get a job in SLC and commute, wrxlvr is right, BYU students have all the jobs here.

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If you seriously consider moving to SLC, as Ibis stated, Sugarhouse area would probably be your best bet for a 20-30's male such as yourself. I think If you spent a few days here to check the place out, you'd be impressed. Outdoor activities are top notch as every one else has mentioned. If your intersted in snowboarding, Utah seriously can't be beat. My mother and father moved here for the sole purpouse of seeking the power. That said, having been lucky enough to travel around the globe, I've never found any good reasons to live anywhere else!


p.s. well, maybe germany for the autobahn and beer
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It was 85* today, again. This Saturday we are supposed to have a high of ONLY 80 though. Finally I can wear jeans without sweating, long sleeve shirts are still out of the question.

The location of SLC couldn't be better from what I've read here and on some sites I've found (about.com mostly), the part I'm not sure about is everything else. I kind of get the idea that SLC is very conservative, is limited on fun things to do, and has a lot of stupid laws made up by wierd religious freaks. Orlando has a 2am cut off for drinking at establishments, but that is about it for rules concerning going out at night. Seems like I would be entering the mormon twilight zone.
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Geez, now you have me wanting to move there - but, I live at 6400 feet and when I get sick I have to wear oxygen, so I have been considering portland or hawaii when my wife starts collecting retirement in 5 years...
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Oh yeah, mormon twilight zone, thanks for reminding me - Portland it is...
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Thinking about living in the west seems almost like a different world having always lived in the east. I visited So. Cal, the Kings Forest, Zion, Bryce, Lake Powel, the Grand Canyon, Flagstaff, and San Fran when I was 15. I wish I were older so I could have paid more attention rather than being a little unappreciative brat.
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i live in Park City about 25 miles from Salt Lake City, i would say Park City and some parts of the SLC area are probebly the least morman influenced towns. Also during the month of january they have the sundance film festival in PArk City and it is party central up here for about a week or so its awesome, but the bar scene in park city is actually pretty good for being as small as it is. Also i live within 5 minutes of 3 huge resorts (Park City mountain Resort, The Canyons, and Deer valley) but if you snowboard you cant go to Deer Valley, but the other two are sweet. I have lived here all my life and am kinda getting sick of the snow, but for someone who is just moving here its actually a pretty cool place. Just though i would add a few things

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The location of SLC couldn't be better from what I've read here and on some sites I've found (about.com mostly), the part I'm not sure about is everything else. I kind of get the idea that SLC is very conservative, is limited on fun things to do, and has a lot of stupid laws made up by wierd religious freaks. Orlando has a 2am cut off for drinking at establishments, but that is about it for rules concerning going out at night. Seems like I would be entering the mormon twilight zone.
Locaion is good. Yes, SLC is the most conservative city in America. This is fact. It doesn't mean you have to be though. I can be in Wendover in 90 minutes and drinking like a lush and gambling like a fiend. Or I can goto a bar in SLC or Park City and hang with a bunch of others who share my outlook. The last I heard, SLC is now about 50% practicing LDS. That leaves an awful lot of people who are either just not from here, or not taking part in what the city has become so well known for.

I've lived all over this country and have been to each state. Every place has its good and bad points. If you like outdoors activites, incredible scenery and want to live near "the mountains", SLC is the place. I am basically a non-religious heathen boy from the East/Midwest and I love it here. The weather is good without having extremes, there are plenty of activities, and I can be in Vegas in 5 hours. Limited on fun things to do, eh? Like what? Name some "fun things" you like to do and I'll tell you if we do not have them. Obviously surfing is out of the question. There are as many if not more things to do here than anywhere else I've lived. If nothing else, I can get in the car and drive myself into incredible alpine scenery in 10 minutes. This is what I hated about the midwest. Its FLAT... Mormon twilight zone? LOL Yeah, kinda. Its not that bad though. The people here are quite friendly, actually. I do not agree with the local belief structure, but thats allright. I am entitled to my opinion as they are. Again, as I've said and others have said, it doesn't affect me. The drinking laws are silly but prevent nothing. You can get lit here anytime. My best suggestion is to try and take a trip out here and see for yourself. If you do, let us know and we'll all hook up and grab a beer or something. At least that way you know some folks here and I'd be willing to show you around as I'm sure most of the other guys would too. We do have a good Suby community here.

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Fun things like crazy club scene and a busy downtown night life. Huge malls, 24 screen stadium seating theaters (Lowe's serves beer also), 3 story arcades that serve alcohol of all kinds, indoors parachuting, 365 day/year haunted house, 2 dinner theaters, 3 go karting tracks, lots of bars, 80 lane bowling alley, several great pool halls, 24hr Super Walmart, huge car scene (lots of rice unfortunately), lots of putt-putt golf, of course lots of regular golf (but I don't golf), 3 theme parks, 300 foot tall swing (that thing is a rush), another thing that sling shots you way up in the air, drag race track that hosts several national events, Sebring is 2 hours away, HUGE outdoors superstore (too bad we have little to do outdoors except fish and hike through sand which is no fun), indoor skate park (though I don't skate anymore), Hot Import Rice (I mean Nights) comes through here, lots of performance shops, maybe 6-7 dyno's. I think that's it. I don't surf so that's not an issue.

We have zip for outdoors activities due to the terrain though. I miss mountain biking and snowboarding, curvey roads and hilly/mountainous terrain. It's TOO hot for me. The people are morons that drive terribly. We are a "no fault" state for insurance which is BS. Nothing works efficiently, especially with the gov't (remember the ballot fiasco), the freeway system sucks. People seem harder to meet, especially girls. If I go to any other city in FL or the rest of the country I meet lots of girls.

This isn't the entertainment capital of the southeast for nothing. All of those things to do doesn't keep me happy since I like outdoors activities and meeting people. I could make due without a lot of the things Orlando offers, but it's nice having options.
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