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Old 11-16-2003, 03:29 PM   #1
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Default Is My Outback Dying?

OK, here's the situation. My 98 Outback 2.5L has just over 84k miles. Lately when I start it, it puffs oil smoke out the tailpipe for like 5 minutes, but then stops once I get out on the road and the engine heats up.

I'm planning on taking it to the dealer ASAP, but does anyone have any guesses what the problem is? I had heard that cracked valve guides were a problem, but I'd appreciate any other ideas you guys may have. Let me know if I need to provide any more information.
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Old 11-16-2003, 09:08 PM   #2
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mine was blown heads. and it would over heat a ton.
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Old 11-16-2003, 09:29 PM   #3
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mine was blown heads. and it would over heat a ton.
This required a full rebuild, right? Mind sharing how much it cost you?
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Old 11-17-2003, 03:39 PM   #4
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In the 'old days' blue,oil smoke on start up only was usually a sign of valve guide/seal problems IIRC.

I suppose a bad/clogged PCV valve might contribute to oil going places it shouldn't.

Could that smoke be white? Usually a sign of coolant/blown head gaskets. Are there bubbles in the radiator? You might try to find a test kit at the parts store for oil/combustion by-products in the coolant.

let us know OK?

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Old 11-17-2003, 04:28 PM   #5
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Yes, the smoke is indeed white. Haven't checked for bubbles in the radiator, but I'll do that next time I need to drive (I'm a college student, and have some higher priorities at the moment).
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Old 11-18-2003, 08:47 AM   #6
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i have an extended warenty .. so it cost me 100 bucs.. but i think it ran like 4 grand worth of stuff from subaru
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Old 11-18-2003, 10:14 AM   #7
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If the 'smoke'(vapor) is white and may smell a bit like marsmallows/sweet it is coolant. It may be slowing down with heat due to a better seal as the the engine expands - or maybe just reduced. This soob engine is gaining a reputation for bad gaskets - don't let the dealership tell you otherwise. It's POSSIBLE (not guaranteed) that the dealership could talk the zone rep into some help with expenses - play up the poor college student angle, search these forums and the ones at www.usmb.net for reports of blown gaskets - print them out and take them with you - see if the service manager can get Subaru to split the cost with you or something. good luck

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Old 11-18-2003, 10:35 AM   #8
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At this point I've basically decided not to make the repairs if it's anything serious. I've been looking for a reason to buy a new car (something a little more sporty ) for about a year, and this just may be the justification I need.
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Old 11-18-2003, 03:29 PM   #9
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iF THEY WILL FIX THE CAR, AT SOME DISCOUNT, and THROW IN A TRANSFERABLE EXTENDED WARRANTY you may have a better trade in or get more $ when you sell it.

Ot drop a WRX turbo engine in it!

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