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Old 06-29-2000, 11:32 PM   #1
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Angry 4700$ for a turbo!!!? Are you KIDDING me?

What's going on with these damn prices.. Sorry.. I thought minnams 4200$ was too expensive. I'm not gonna pay another 500$ extra.


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Turbocharging a Normally aspirated car is definitely the ultimate way to increase horsepower. On a properly designed turbo kit, you can expect High horsepower gains without sacrificing too much reliability. We will be releasing our own Turbocharger kit for the Subaru Line. It will be a complete DIY bolt-on kit with full illustrations and instructions and hopefully will be CARB-approved. Our kit will be utilizing the highest quality parts and components and will have a quicker spool-up then anything on the market. It will be designed to be upgradeable in stages. We are also planning on a twin Turbo Setup for the 2000 Legacy to compete with the Japanese Spec Legacy B4 RSK . These turbo kits will be available early summer (July/Aug). Turbo kits will initially be made for 2000 model Imprezas and Legacys. We will be looking for volunteer cars to test fit our kits on 97-99 cars with promotional discounts. We also offer turbo kits for other cars as listed.

For factory turbocharged cars we offer turbo and intercooler upgrades to bring out the maximum potential of your car. We also offer aftermarket blow-off valves to prevent compressor surge resulting in quicker turbo response. Please Email us if your car is not listed.

AMR Turbo kits for Subaru

This will be a 100% do-it-yourself bolt-on turbo kit. All problems associated with other manufacturers’ turbo kits such as leaky oil lines, check engine lights, smog problems will be resolved in our kits. We are in the process of getting our Turbo kits CARB approved to avoid problems with warranty and smog emission issues. Our turbo kits will come complete with a

State of Art “AERODYNE” Quick-spool ball bearing turbocharger (spools as fast as a supercharger with the top end of a large turbo!) Virtually no lag, no need to launch car at 5000rpm to spool up turbo!
Tamperproof wastegate set @ 7-8PSI to prevent overboosting and potential leaning and detonation problems
AMR Slim-line top mount intercooler to clear all manufacturers tower bars
GREDDY Type “S” Blow-off valve
New “WEAPON R DRAGON” Free-flow Foam air filter
AMR Fuel management (proper fueling devices to fuel up on boost, differs for 97-99 and 2000 MODEL)
J&S Safegaurd management system (still the best device to prevent engine damaging detonation and will not trip check engine light)
Syms Style Hood Scoop for 97-2000 Forester and 2000-up Legacy
Oil catch can for all 97-99 Forester, Impreza and Legacy to prevent getting oil film on MAF sensors and causing them to malfunction
GREDDY 60mm Boost Gauge with mount
Factory Subaru catalytic converters (core charge required. When we receive your factory Catalytics back we will refund you)
All necessary clamps, silicone hoses and gaskets
Easy-to-follow instructions with pictures (also available for download online)
No tapping of oil pan or oil feed lines required! Aerodyne turbo has its own oil reservoir and comes with a 6 month Warranty!
Our initial stage 1 turbo kits will add approx. 70-80hp . Our upcoming stage 2 kits will add approx 110-120hp with recalibrated wastegate at 12psi and larger injectors and pump.

MY00 Impreza and Legacy kits will be available mid-late July while MY97-99 Impreza and Legacy kits Mid-late August.



Applications and Pricing: (all prices in US Dollars and does not include core charge for Cats.)

*CORE CHARGE FOR SUBARU CATALYTIC CONVERTERS $TBA


Impreza 95-99 $4750.00 Legacy 95-99 $4750.00 Forester 97-99 $4900.00
Impreza 2000 $4650.00 Legacy 2000 $4800.00 Forester 2000 $4800.00

Subaru Outback prices - same as Legacy
Subaru Outback Sport prices - same as Impreza



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Old 06-29-2000, 11:32 PM   #2
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Exclamation

BTW: All prices came from http://www.carmodifications.com
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Old 06-30-2000, 12:03 AM   #3
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I hope to God that's in pesos or Canadian money. With tuning (always required no matter what manufacturers say) that comes out to over $5000.$5000 for 80hp? I hope this is a joke.
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Old 06-30-2000, 12:07 AM   #4
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I agree with you Mike, but as you can see the $ says it all.


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Old 06-30-2000, 12:10 AM   #5
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Aerodyne VATN turbos aren't cheap. At least $500 more expensive than a traditional T3/T04.

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Old 06-30-2000, 12:14 AM   #6
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Shiv,
dont u agree there should be very nice turbo kits out for 3000$? (snif snif.. hint)

-Your Twin-Turbo Rx-7 buddy
-Sev
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Old 06-30-2000, 12:35 AM   #7
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Since we're on the subject of turbos, does anybody know if there's an aftermarket VNT turbo available for the Impreza? If you don't know what a VNT is, check this link: http://www.xmission.com/~dempsey/shelby/sheldod9.htm . The car you see at the link is the CSX-VNT it is a Shelby Dodge that came stock with a VNT turbocharger. The whole concept and function of a VNT turbo is explained at the site.
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Old 06-30-2000, 01:01 AM   #8
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http://www.aerocharger.com/

Bell Engineering has been making aerodyne-based turbo kits for years. They have been used on Miatas primarily. Corky has build a twin aerocharger system for the NSX as well. Historically, the aerocharger has its strengths as well as its weaknesses. Strengths being excellent low speed response and self-contained lubrication system. The latter offer some flexibility in terms of placement and packaging. Downsides have been shady reliabilty (esp. at higher flow/boost levels), cost and complexity. According to Aerodyne (the manufacturer of the Aerocharger), the new-style vein actuator has improved these problem areas. Only time will tell...

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Old 06-30-2000, 05:05 AM   #9
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Well they did say that they were going to try to get it CARB approved. Getting that certification can't be cheap. As far as the high price goes it still sounds too high. Especially cause where I am moving there is no smog check. One very good thing about upstate NY.
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Old 06-30-2000, 05:12 AM   #10
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I wouldn't complain on the minam system since it's in Canadian money....You guys in the US save around 30% compared to us...

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Old 06-30-2000, 05:26 AM   #11
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Isnt that price cheap ?

You guys dont want to know the cost of stuff over here!!

it aint pretty..

Anyway.. that doesnt look like a Subie turbo kit in the picture...

J.

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Old 06-30-2000, 08:38 AM   #12
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Unless it comes with a TEC-II, thats ridiculous. Not to mention that the wastegate is "tamperproof" and you can't run it above 7-8psi. 7-8psi for THAT much? Sorry, I'll go gte myself a 100-shot of NO2 and feel better about it.
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Old 06-30-2000, 08:42 AM   #13
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Wh need rallispec
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Old 06-30-2000, 10:17 AM   #14
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Does anybody realize that AMR is Andrew Nam's (from Minnam Racing) new company? The Minnam kit has and still is the premiere kit on the market. So we can probably expect this new kit from Andrew to perform even better. The price is higher, but look at the stuff it includes that's not in the Minnam kit: aerodyne turbo, new intercooler design, AMR fuel management (whatever that is) replaces AFC, SYMS hood scoop, boost guage, and factory catalytic converters.

Plus, having your turbo kit pass CARB certification is not a cheap process.
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Old 06-30-2000, 10:29 AM   #15
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I was noticing the same thing too. I guess no one remembered that AMR used to be Minnam

And the price looks about right considering all the extras you get and the megabuck turbo that comes with it. Just the J&S alone is like $500 isn't it? That and the aerodyne make it a resonable kit. Sure you could go cheaper but you get what you pay for.

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Old 07-01-2000, 04:42 PM   #16
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IF THIS KIT COSTS TOO MUCH, DONT BUY IT. Please allow other Scooby owners to have multiple options.

BTW, anybody hazard to guess how much it would cost to get a used EJ20 w/WRX tranny? I am guessing $7k complete. Anybody considering trying this?
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Old 07-01-2000, 06:22 PM   #17
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6,200$ actually.

Im just commenting on the fact that Subaru Tuners are using "Subaru's "Rarity" to jack up prices on turbochargers.

That's all
-sev
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Old 07-01-2000, 07:50 PM   #18
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A guy in our club just finished doing a wild custom turbo job on his impreza.

TEC II / huge Spaerco front mount IC / Garret TC / etc.

I think he finished the whole thing for under $3000 with EVERYTHING included. Its apparantly finished already, and will be out at the track on Monday. Ill take some pics/ let you guys know about it.

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Old 07-01-2000, 08:35 PM   #19
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Jay_UK, your right. that header doesn't look like it would go on a subie
 
Old 07-02-2000, 10:28 AM   #20
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Maybe the tuners are using the rarity to jack up the prices, but this is entirely reasonable. The fewer number of potenital customers you have for something, the higher the price to get the same return. A turbo kit isn't something you just whip together. It takes some R&D, and the cost of that has to go in somewhere. Maybe, when there are as many 2.5's on the road as there are civics, the prices will come down.
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