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Old 12-06-2003, 12:33 AM   #1
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Default Turbonetics T58 on 2 litre

hi guys, has anyone here fitted a Turbonetics T58 on a 2 litre?

I wanna know if its too big for it, what rpm's does it come on boost etc etc and any other comments and info would be great

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Old 12-06-2003, 01:38 AM   #2
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well there are so many factors that will determine when "boost will come on". Now are we talking about a bone stock 2.0 liter or a built one.
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Old 12-06-2003, 01:54 AM   #3
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nah not stock. Its got 3 inch exhaust, front mount intercooler, 500hp fuel pump and injectors, pod filter, external wastegate.

stock internals though, so probably keep it at max 18psi

So is it too big for a 2 litre???
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Old 12-06-2003, 01:55 AM   #4
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well, when i mean stock, i was refering to the internals. what are the specs on the turbo. a/r? trim?
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:06 AM   #5
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what are the specs on the turbo. a/r? trim?
i'm not 100% sure, i think it was .70 comp and 1.14 exh

I'll double check with the shop but they are not open until monday
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:08 AM   #6
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thats a huge turbine side. that will be laggy on a stock 2.0. what kind of power are you looking for (to the wheels). what are you planning on doing with the car; street, drag, road racing?
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:11 AM   #7
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this will spool faster and flow more

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cheaptur...t3w82artu.html
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:12 AM   #8
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:24 AM   #9
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that will be laggy on a stock 2.0
uh oh. How laggy are we talking here??

If it hits 18psi at 4,500-5,000 rpm then thats acceptable to me, i'd be happy with that

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what kind of power are you looking for (to the wheels). what are you planning on doing with the car; street, drag, road racing?
It will be a daily driver but will be doing alot of drags with it

aiming at around 350 horses at the wheels.

I know the turbo will be more than capable of doing that without nos as well, i'm more worried about day to day drivablity on the street

if the lag is gonna be that bad, i'll do a 2.2 rebuild in a few months
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:28 AM   #10
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are you familiar with my build? i get 18 psi at 4400 rpm and 30 psi at 4900 rpm. I dont think you will get boost that early.
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:37 AM   #11
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Get a 2.2 block before you rebuild a 2.0 to 2.2, a us sti block might be the cheepest and a lot easyer....

I wouldnt use a tubo that large on a stock block with the stock redline, maybe an block with a 8-9k redline.
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:43 AM   #12
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are you familiar with my build? i get 18 psi at 4400 rpm and 30 psi at 4900 rpm. I dont think you will get boost that early.
no i'm new to this forum

may i ask what turbo you have??

18 psi by 4400rpm is excellent, I'd be happy with that
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:47 AM   #13
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He is running a big 2.5 Liter... If you search under his name you will come up with his info.
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:49 AM   #14
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here is what i have. you may want to read in detail.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=426987
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:52 AM   #15
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He is running a big 2.5 Liter...
LMFAO no wonder it spools so early
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Old 12-06-2003, 02:57 AM   #16
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here is what i have. you may want to read in detail.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=426987
That is one crazy car my man


Alright then, how about a turbonetics T04E on my 2 litre??
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Old 12-06-2003, 03:00 AM   #17
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I would go with a garrett gt series turbo or a t3/to4e turbo. maybe a 50 trim stage 5.

Oh yeah, how come MRT sucks? just curious.
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Old 12-06-2003, 03:08 AM   #18
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I have a JDM Ra-c motor and Im thinking about a 50-1, 52-1, or a 60-1 not sure I have to little more research but something like that. 305-375 hp on pump fuel and 450 or so on c-16
let me know what you guys think
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I have a JDM Ra-c motor and Im thinking about a 50-1, 52-1, or a 60-1 not sure I have to little more research but something like that. 305-375 hp on pump fuel and 450 or so on c-16
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Clarks seems to be liking his... good luck.
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if you have the money, go with the gt series from garrett. I would not go with anything else. My next turbo will be a gt series. maybe ill sell my turbo soon.
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Old 12-06-2003, 03:15 AM   #21
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GT series are very expensive here in Australia. Often double or almost double the price of old the T series. Unfortunately outta my price range
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thats because they are much better, last longer, flow more, and have incredable spool.
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Old 12-06-2003, 04:17 AM   #23
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the T-series turbos (not T3 or T04) are intended for LARGE engines. A small-block V8 takes some time to spool a straight T-series turbo.

You might get away with running a T58 COMPRESSOR on a smaller (T3-series) turbine... but you better be shooting for a LOT more than 350hp before you put a straight T58 on ANYTHING.
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Old 12-06-2003, 10:07 AM   #24
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where are you going to get an up and down pipe to fit those turbos? I imagine that you are going to fabricate them
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Surge will be an issue on a T58, although the flow of the turbo isn't actually that massive.

You will be surge limited to about 1 bar at 3500, and about 1.5bar at 5000rpm on a 2.0l engine.

Spool up will depend heavily on the turbine side, the compressor isn't that big of a wheel (in terms of innertia).

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