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Old 06-28-2000, 12:43 AM   #1
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Exclamation TRACK DAY: Stop talking and start driving!

You're invited, for the third time!

Subaru Owners Track School
September 28, 2000
Thunderhill Raceway, Willows CA

We are actively looking to fill the remaining open spots at this event.

Each participant gets 2 hours of track time, 2 sessions more than at the comparable NASA events and T'hill track schools. This is the perfect opportunity to safely learn, practice and test your Subaru, surrounded by other hard-core Subaru enthusiasts and friends.

It's a full track day, lunch, drinks, grid control, photos, ambulance etc etc.

For information and details, please check www.hools.com/subaru.html

Please address questions to angus@katiesoft.com

VENDORS AND SPONSORS: We are looking to pick up support from as many tuners and suppliers as we can. We have a bunch already. If you're interested in supporting this event, please email angus@katiesoft.com

INSTRUCTORS: If you are available to drive AND instruct or just instruct, please email angus@katiesoft.com

Time is of the essence if we are to reserve the track.

Thanks for your time. Hope to see you there.

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Old 06-27-2000, 01:56 PM   #2
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Hello,

What? No enthusiastic clammor? Sign up ASAP or the event will have to be cancelled. We need YOU!

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Old 06-27-2000, 02:08 PM   #3
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Angry

Can't believe this. We set up a day any car club would be psyched to have on their agenda and we can't pull it off!? Oh yeah, other car clubs have events like this already and DO pull it off.

Next time I read about someones go fast mods and I'm going to laugh my head off.

I do realize some can't afford it, that's totally fair.

Some of you must already be world class drivers (just keeping it hidden from the rest of us I assume. That brief spell 3 weeks ago on 280 at 85mph must have been very thrilling)

ah..whatever....just bummed.

angus
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Old 06-27-2000, 02:10 PM   #4
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Angus, update us on how many people we already have signed up and how many more we need?
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Old 06-27-2000, 02:12 PM   #5
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Is it too late to sign up? I would love to come out, Ill make it a Bday present to myself, but whats the cost?

Let me know. I have a new helmet I bought for last years Jean Nevada RallyX and I hnever got to use it!

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Old 06-27-2000, 02:18 PM   #6
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Alex:
8 paid via paypal
1 paid in person

about 8 other payments have been promised or mentioned....

Our deposit is $2k on $6200, due yesterday .

If I was POSITIVE we would fill the day I would cover the deposit.

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Old 06-27-2000, 02:19 PM   #7
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blitzpb:

not too late:

see www.hools.com/subarufees.html

if we don;t fill it i will refund.

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Old 06-27-2000, 02:26 PM   #8
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Come on guys. It's going to be a blast. T-hill is safe and a lot of fun. SCC will have a bunch of project cars out there. Paul Ecklund will have his rally car. Joel Gat will probably have a rental car Don't pass on this opportunity! You will not regret it. You'll even get to see your cars in the pages of SCC

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Old 06-27-2000, 02:38 PM   #9
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tks for the words!
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Old 06-27-2000, 04:43 PM   #10
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Hello,

Hey! I resemble that remark! Just because I've done my last 3 events in rentals and this weekend's event may be in a rental... Damnit, I will drive the scooby! I will fix her good enough to last a few weeks on the streets and make it to the track! ARGH!!! Actually, the way things are cleaning up, I should have the 2.5 with your tec in there long before then...

RYD (like JYD, but Rental Yard Dawg)
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Old 06-27-2000, 05:45 PM   #11
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Hell, I'd love to be there. Especially with SCC showing up. But it's a little far from Toronto.
Hey we (Toronto RS Club)have two track days planned at Shannonville this year. Any chance of SCC showing up there?

PS: Finally, my first post to the board...
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Old 06-27-2000, 05:48 PM   #12
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Hell, I'd love to be there. Especially with SCC showing up. But it's a little far from Toronto.
Hey we (Toronto RS Club)have two track days planned at Shannonville this year. Any chance of SCC showing up there?

PS: Finally, my first post to the board...
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Old 06-27-2000, 05:56 PM   #13
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Angus,
Will mail check Wednesday. Should reach you Thurs or Friday.

Folks, this is a great opportunity. Thunderhill is alot of fun, and you don't need to be the fastest out there to have a good time. Any skill level will benefit from the chance to increase the learning curve.
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Old 06-27-2000, 06:33 PM   #14
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why does all this cool stuff happen in CA????
~
persons in the south i guess just are not as
organized. what are the chances of SCC coming to TX......probally the same as me getting that $7000 tranny tht rallispec is selling.steven
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Old 06-27-2000, 06:49 PM   #15
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Hello,

Sorry angus, as much as i'd love to participate, I have no money.

Can people watch this event as well??

[This message has been edited by STi Sev (edited June 27, 2000).]
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Old 06-27-2000, 09:30 PM   #16
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Sev, anyone can come and watch. I know T-hill makes everyone sign a waiver but I don't think they charge a fee for non drivers. If they do, it's a $5-10 entry fee, but I'm almost certain that t-hill never does that (unlike buttonwillow, where they always do that). But you won't be able to passenger... Just watch. There are some good areas to get good views, though.

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Old 06-27-2000, 09:45 PM   #17
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Here' s a tidbit of info the TORONTO RS CLUB is having two track days, as Schwabe said. BUT we are having it WITH the Toronto chapter of the Nissan SE-R club of north america-

Myself and a few other scoobies will be up against-

A turbo Infinity g20t
a 300ZX twin turbo
a few 200sx's
some NX2000's
A few honda civics
a suzuki swift, which I personally fear
and maybe some sentras

NEway, Shiv, want to come up to Shannonville for a little bit and take some pics? you can see my incredibly bad interpretation of heel-toe shifting and watch in horror as fellow scooby drivers fly off the track at 100mph- with no helmets, seatbelts or rules to speak of.

Seriously though, if anyone wants to come and watch on July 9th at 6:30pm (too late to sign up) come on down, we'll be on the fabi track. Our second track day will be sometime in August, which is not too late to sign up for.

For more info check out http://25rs.tsx.org

Pray for my survival!
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Old 06-27-2000, 10:32 PM   #18
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I signed up!! I cant believe I forked the dough over but I did. Ill see you all there (I hope)

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Old 06-28-2000, 09:37 AM   #19
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Hello,

Sorry, I have to add this. JaiMak, that is the craziest, stupidest thing I have ever heard!

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and watch in horror as fellow scooby drivers fly off the track at 100mph- with no helmets, seatbelts or rules to speak of.
If that's true, someone ought to shut that track down. Any track that allows its rental without mandating helmets gives tracks a bad name and causes state legislatures to pass legislation such as has passed in a few states now. In several states, insurance companies absolutely deny coverage on tracks. Fortunately, as far as I know, all tracks in California ABSOLUTELY REQUIRE HELMETS AND SEATBELTS. That's the only thing that is keeping us ahead of the game - most insurance companies will cover non-wheel-to-wheel track events.

But more importantly, at the last CA track event, a scooby flipped. Without pointing fingers at anyone or commenting on anything whatsoever, I believe driver inexperience was a major contributing factor to that accident. Had the driver not had a helmet, he might be dead. In fact, even with his helmet, had his roof crushed another inch, he might have been dead now.

We do not drive race cars. We drive street cars that meet federal 5 mph crash standards. These cars are not designed to save your life in a 100+ mph accident. For that reason, ANY time you go to the track, your first concern MUST be safety. You will DIE if you act like a jerk or don't use appropriate safety equipment.

The Thunderhill event is a fully complying event. This is a school event. Check with your insurance first, but most insurance companies will cover your car at such an event. A helmet is ABSOLUTELY required - SA90 or better, I believe. Seatbelts are required. Thunderhill will absolutely throw you off the track and out of the park if you drive like a jerk at any time.

Given all that, personally, I would HATE to see SCC cover an event that did not take safety into consideration. Of course, given their story on how to make a car into a moving deathtrap to save a couple pounds, who knows what they'd cover, eh Shiv?

And BTW, you can still have a blast without being an @ss. My last event at T-hill, I was in a stock, rental Neon. My top speed on that track was over 100 mph. Driving safely does NOT mean driving slowly. Especially with such a small group of people, we'll have over 1000 feet per car on the track (assuming people don't clump, but of course we will, and that makes it fun, too). There will be plenty of room to take your car to your limits. Especially for beginners, with an instructor in your car, you will be able to explore those limits in a safe manner.

Anyway, now I'm ranting. I haven't found a more fun way to drive a car than to take it to the track. However, whenever I see someone not taking safety into serious consideration, it scares me. Quite frankly, I've pulled off into the hot pit lane to give space between me and someone who is driving beyond their abilities in an uncontrolled fasion. I report my reason for pulling off in hopes that the offending person gets removed. Most tracks will remove an individual for doing anything to compromise safety - which does not include driving fast as crazy but which does include driving crazy.

Joel
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Old 06-28-2000, 09:52 AM   #20
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We need a track day at Portland internation Raceway. I will come to that. ca is too far away.
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Old 06-28-2000, 10:11 AM   #21
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You'll drive to portland but won't drive to Redding CA? How's that work out? Redding is a scant 420 miles, which at 80 mph, one gas stop, is less than 6 hours. Some of us californians have driving out to Phoenix from Nor Cal - a scant 1100 miles.

But really, can you pass this event up? between 30 and 40 cars (max!), all subaru, for a whole day with at least six sessions each. SOA, SCC, and Primitive Engineering will be there (hey, where's Paul E coming from??). Figure that at most there will be 13 people per run group on the 3 mile config of the track, there's TONS of room. If you've ever driven with NASA, you'll know how COOL this event really is as NASA usually has at LEAST a 25 car field.

As for Scoobys that have flipped or impacted a wall.. there's not a lot I ca say. I won't say that someone 'messed up'. It CAN happen to you, and you're not immortal. But you _can_ put your level of risk down. Driving at a limit in which YOU feel comfortable. Asking for instruction. Driving in a SAFE manor. Getting to know your car and how to control it - even when you have 'lost' control.

But to be sure, Thunderhill is a _safe_ and fun track. The audi club is able to run events without body contact, or flips. They have spins, but keep things safe.

Hope to see you all there.
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Old 06-28-2000, 10:31 AM   #22
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How many people are going up from The SCal area? Im in the Yorba Linda/ Anaheim area and 500 miles is quite far to be all by my lonesome (If my wife doesnt go). Any caravans heading up? Has anyone from Socal gone up there? How long was the drive? Any info would help me greatly.

Also, does this count as advance driving school for insurance?

Thanks
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Old 06-28-2000, 10:45 AM   #23
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To come to JaiMak's defence, I am sure he was joking.
It won't be an all out race, just lapping.
The track is not a highspeed track to begin with. Our RSs won't come anywhere remotely close to 100 mph.
Also from past experience at Shannonville, passing is allowed on the straight only, not in the corners.
And yes, they black flag you if you act stupid.
I hope that everybody will be mature enough not to leave their common sense at home.
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Old 06-28-2000, 11:42 AM   #24
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Ok, there's at least some discussion going on... and I hope that some more people are signing up. I'm having some trouble understanding how people are able to afford 1000s of $$ in mods for their car, but are not able to scrape together $200 over the course of 14 weeks. Stick it on your credit card!! Go mow your momma's lawn! Make your sister give back the cash you lent her for her hair extensions! Walk your neighbor's chihuahua!! I don't care, as long as this track day HAPPENS
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Old 06-28-2000, 08:05 PM   #25
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Hello,

Too bad more of you aren't responding... Your loss. A round of thanks for Angus - he has put the deposit down and we are SET TO GO! Now we just need more people to join and we're set... We'd like at least 30, maybe upto 40 subarus on the track...

Joel
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