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Old 05-12-2000, 05:27 AM   #1
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Post Any recommendation on how to frustrate theives?

The demand for after-market wheels have gone up. I've heard about people waking up and finding their cars on milk crates with all 4 wheels missing! One guy at Clubsi had 16 wheel locks and they still took his wheels!

Their usual method is sliding under the engine bay and cutting the power to the siren alarm as well as cutting the batteries. Any suggestion to give them as much hassle as possible?

Ya think that Sump Gaurd might help? I mean, if you think about it, it's a big sheild that covers the bottom of the engine.

How about piping the eletric cords?

How about some medieval traps like a spiked ball that drops on the thieving low lifes?

Pictures of a G-stringed Rosie O'Donnell under the chasis?

Seriously....I'm worried. And summer vacation is just aroudn the corner. The usual perps are in high school.
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Old 05-12-2000, 05:52 AM   #2
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Alarm wise, they make sirens with a battery system of there own and if the main power line to the siren is cut they still go off. Note if they spray shaving cream gel in the siren it won't make a sound, at least not one you will here. This in mind mount it somewhere they can't easily get to. There are also battery backups for the alarm itself to keep the system up completely if they kill the battery. Most alarms only have a shock sensor so if they are after your rims and take their time, they can jack the car up without triping a shock sensor. A motion sensor though will pick up a change in angle such as jacking the car up so that can help as well as a proximity sensor for detecting when someone is near the car.

All of these things if not installed properly can cause serious false alarms. Check your area and find a reputable installer. If anyone here on the list lives near you and know of one maybe they could post a few good installers and help you out.

Just realize that a good system is not going to $100, you get what you pay for and if you don't want to pay to replace stolen item invest in keeping them.

Also if you have a large amount of aftermarket items you may want to check and see if you insurence covers them in case of theft or if you are only covered with stock replacement.
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Old 05-12-2000, 06:19 AM   #3
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I think the best you can do is invest in a good alarm and several different sets of wheel locks... oh and parking in a good spot helps too.

I'm not a theif by any means, my uncle used to be a dealer, but I have a plastic bag with about 30 different wheel-lock keys in it. They're not that hard to come by, and especially if they know where you got your wheels from (buy the same set of locks and BOOM, they're set).
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Old 05-12-2000, 06:31 AM   #4
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Razor wire under the chassis helps

Seriously though, the best you can do is get a good alarm with seperate battery system (as mentioned in previous post) and maybe a different style of wheel lock on every wheel. What are the odds that some punk kid has every different key out there?

But, not to rain on your parade, if they really want your car/wheels/stereo/etc. there isn't a whole lot out there that will stop them.
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Old 05-12-2000, 06:37 AM   #5
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I know. That's why I said "frustrate them".

Does our factory alarm come with it's own battery? I have the full factory alarm option on my 99 RS.
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Old 05-12-2000, 06:53 AM   #6
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16 locks, I think he did it because of that, just to make a point. Haha, I think its kinda funny. Hey, besides the hassle, that's what insurance is for. You will get a fresh set of tires, too.
Get a garage, mine is even secured and monitored, and the cops are there in 2 min.!!
Don't ask how I know....
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Old 05-12-2000, 07:19 AM   #7
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Wow, in NY they take the whole car.

Alarms and what not are useless. Cut switches are the best form of protection. My dad used to be an adjunct proff. in a prison, so he asked the guy in for grand theft auto how to protect it...

Here is what he said:

A professional will carry a laptop computer and can get into any car with a factory combination lock (a lot of fords have these) cause the combination is stored at the central FORD database. 2nd easiest thing is to come with a flatbed truck and just pick the whole thing up. A professional will get past any protection. As for kids, the club and a cut switch are best bets.

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Old 05-12-2000, 07:24 AM   #8
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BTW, I forgot to mention that you don't have to have wheel-lock keys to get off wheel locks... I've known people to just hammer a socket on there and undo the locknuts. Also, I've heard that you can just take an impact gun to it and get it off with a socket around the same size as well.

*shrug* It all comes down to if someone wants it, they will be able to get it if they are smart enough. (or brutal enough for that matter)
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Old 05-12-2000, 08:03 AM   #9
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ALARMS? hahahahah I've known a couple thieves in L.A., only two thing stops them. Here's the kicker, they used to work for LoJack. They can get tha Lojack box out of almost any car in under 10 mins max. Thieves use a "stud sensor" style device to find it. Back to the two things - An awake owner with a gun, or a big freakin dog. I like the dog idea, cause I hate having to get up just to shoot someone. Leave him in your car. Thieves don't mess with cars that have Rotweilers waiting to eat them inside. They move on down the street to find one that isn't "occupied". I never really wooried about my car being stolen, because in West L.A., there are about 10 crews (i.e. professionals, not crack heads) that operate on the westside, and I know where 9 of them chop and fence. They could also care less about Subarus too. Even if they took my car, I would more than likely be able to find where it is (or where the parts are getting sold).
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Old 05-12-2000, 08:12 AM   #10
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An essential thing to keep in mind is that while the amateur thief may be interested in grabbing our cars or aftermarket parts or whatever, I don't think any pro would go to the trouble of stripping a Sube. There isn't a big enough market.

Just have some wheel locks and a good security system and hope no one with a brain decides they want your spoiler.
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Old 05-12-2000, 08:15 AM   #11
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There should be a big market, given the speed with which SOA gets parts for the imprezas

Doh!

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Old 05-12-2000, 08:32 AM   #12
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You could put **** under the doorhandle. That would frustrate them. =) Alright, well you wouldnt really wanna do that, but it would be funny.

You could also get a skidplate, that would make even more work for them.
later,
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Old 05-12-2000, 08:59 AM   #13
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Old 05-12-2000, 09:36 AM   #14
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Where do you people park that these guys can spend so much time under and around and jacking up the car without anybody seeing/hearing anything. There's no way you could get away from that in my neighborhood. The neighbor called the cops one time because I was messing around in my own trunk at 2am (before I installed the light). At work, when I put in the new pink "I" emblem, somebody called the cops too. I'm always waking up every 10 minutes and taking a look at my car in the middle of the night too. I've been paranoid lately reading some of these comments. If my car's stolen and I don't get it back, then I don't think I could get another RS. I can't afford to wait two months for a car again.
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Old 05-12-2000, 09:46 AM   #15
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It can happen anywhere. My sister lives in a condo complez. A car parked right in front of the entry to her building had all 4 wheels taken! And that car had an alarm! They didn't even pop up the hood! They jacked it up and stole the wheels!
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Old 05-12-2000, 10:12 AM   #16
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i have put my battery rolocated to my trunk and also put a kill switch to the fuel pump.
i dont know if that will stop them put it sure will slow them down.
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Old 05-12-2000, 10:14 AM   #17
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Snoopy, if you're going to have your car parked for a while, definitely put your old wheels and tires back on. You did save those, right? I would never, EVER, leave a car with TE37's parked for an extended time. Hire a car bodyguard... store it in a friends garage... Put it up on blocks yourself and put the wheels in a safe place...
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Old 05-12-2000, 10:30 AM   #18
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I really liked the James Bond device (can't remember which movie) that blows-up the car when tampered with.
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Old 05-12-2000, 10:36 AM   #19
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Hey if anyone is around the Chicagoland area and wants to trade wheels while they are away on vacation, give me a call! I'd definetly trade for some TE37's for however long you need.
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Old 05-12-2000, 10:38 AM   #20
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my roomate had his rims jacked right out in front of our apartment and we live in a good neighborhood.. three other cars had the rims wiped and 31 cars had their stereos stolen.. nobody saw a thing.. my roomate got in at 3:30 in the morning that night and I got up to go to work at seven.. there was the prelude.. sitting on the rotors.. These guys were pros.. they jimmied the door and killed the alarm w/out anyone knowing the wiser.. for cars that they couldnt jimmy.. they broke the windows.. the majority of the cars the windows were intact.. one of the BMWs had the window smashed.. never heard an alarm the whole night.. and my window faces the parking lot.. good thieves can do amazing things.. it appears as though they had cased most of the cars before they got there..

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Old 05-12-2000, 10:52 AM   #21
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My advise: Buy a garage
When you not in your car put your trunk monkey up front
Don't park were I once lived

I came out one night to find two kids breaking into my wifes Maxima (a 1989) it was about a month after I had been shot in the leg (so I know my Glock works) anyway the sight of me and my Glock17 was enough to run them off.

Next day neighborhood kids came around when I was washing the Sube saying "I heard you tried to shoot someone" So just the threat was enough.

And no I wouldn't have shot the kids... Not!!! If they would have attacked your damn skippy....

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Old 05-12-2000, 08:33 PM   #22
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There are three things in this world you don't want to mess with. One, my woman(which i don't have). Two, my bike (blue RF600R). And three, my car. Tampering with any one of the three wins you a trip to a "better place", or so they say.
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Old 05-13-2000, 01:25 AM   #23
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Hey for u guys with the stereos in the trunk,do what I did the first week I had the car. There is a little bar that connects the keyhole to the lock in the trunk, take the bar out and this way they cant pry open the key hole and take ur stuff Make sure that little switch is set so you can open the trunk from the inside, if not your going to be screwed! This may not stop them from taking ur stuff, but it will take them alot longer to do so. Neway, good luck with keeping your own shi* that u paid for!
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Old 05-13-2000, 04:13 AM   #24
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A good friend of mine is an alarm installer. these are some of the things i know of that will make a car very very hard for thieves to steal.

1. Good alarm with the brain hidden. ie under the center console or somewhere other than under the driver dash. proximity sensor is also a good thing to have. might scare away some thieves that are surveying the car.

2. Siren in a well hidden place under the hood.

3. Backup battery siren in the fender.

4. Manual fuel cutoff switch hidden somewhere.

5. 3 point immobilizer

6. take out the cable pops the hood open and hide it in a different place. when thieves brake in they will pop the hood to cut the battery.

7. set trunk latch to valet mode so u can only open the trunk from the outside with a key.

8. the club =) always a good thing to have.

9. take out your car faceplate.

10. never leave your garage door opener visible.

11. trunk monkey .. alyways brings you good luck. hehe

hope this helps.. i know its impossible to keep a car from a burglar if they really really want it. but hopefully doing all these things will make your car very hard to steal =)

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Old 05-13-2000, 04:51 AM   #25
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I heard from one ex-member of this site about hooking a electric fence box up to your car. Not sure if it would effect your ECU though. I just went with a $40 Fake Surveillance camera mounted in the front of the garage in plain site, a 130 lbs plus Rott, a decent alarm and a gun loving auto mechanic for a neighbor. Oh and if you get a dog, get an invisible fence installed so the theives don't know where the dogs yard ends or if it can go into the street. If you have a fence then it would be best to just shut it and lock it at night. Not many thieves want to lift all of their tools and stolen parts over a fence. Oh and if you see them messing with your car and you own a paintball gun. Go out and buy some jaw breakers. You can always shoot them out of a paintball gun. Although that would be illegal and wrong. So aim for the groins!
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