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Old 03-17-2004, 10:08 AM   #1
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Forester Short Shifter info for FXT owners

We just put a Kartboy Short Shifter in a FXT....Just for info for you guys...it takes the 98-01 RS shifter not the WRX one....Shifts really clean and quick....best if not used with the armrest ext....seems to get in the way for spirited driving...

Hope this helps...

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Old 03-17-2004, 02:31 PM   #2
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txs RFL muffler is just a "l i t t l e" short....it fits fine...but is awefully close to rear bumper skin even with extended Kartboy hangers...It sits behind the bumper about 2 in...maybe some High temp tape will help...

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Old 03-17-2004, 04:42 PM   #3
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I think Kartboy makes one specifically for the Forester now. KB- 001-XT
http://www.allwheelengineering.com/b...ss=KB-001-1997

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Old 03-17-2004, 05:43 PM   #4
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The console on the Forester is higher than the WRX/Impreza so the OEM shifters are about 2.5" longer on the OEM Forester levers than the Impreza. The KB shifter specifically for the Forester still has a short throw but the shift knob is only about 1/2 lower than stock. I'm guessing the KB shifter for the Impreza on a Forester sits pretty low. I just mention it because some people may not like it down that far but then again they may prefer it

Here is my install for the F-XT
http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...&threadid=2198

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As you can see it's not exactly all that high with the longer lever. Do you have a pic where the Impreza one sits? I'm curious.

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Old 03-17-2004, 10:12 PM   #5
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I will try to get one up for here this weekend...I will be traveling...and its a customers car....but I will I promise.. thanks Peaty..

The other Ruh Roh...


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Old 04-09-2004, 10:30 AM   #6
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Default Just to add to this...

I installed a Kartboy SS in my WRX the other day, took all of 15 minutes.
Yesterday I thought I would see if my WRX lever would fit the wife's FXT (before I read this post ). Holy Cow! It took me 20 minutes to get the bolt out! It's like working in a coffee can compared to the WRX.
I'm going to order a Kartboy Forester SS for her and get it done right.
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Old 04-09-2004, 04:34 PM   #7
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Just for info for you guys...it takes the 98-01 RS shifter not the WRX one....
that is verdad?
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Old 04-11-2004, 12:06 AM   #8
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I've been thinking really hard about getting a SS. My fear is that I willl not be able to install it myself. I know absolutely nothing about turning a wrench (dont even have a tool set). Is it really as easy as it's depicted? My B-Day is a month away, and would really like to get this.

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Old 04-12-2004, 08:51 AM   #9
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It is most likely the simplest mod you can do. And, as a bonus, I really don't think you can screw it up in any way.
I just ordered the Kartboy Forester-specific short shift from Kym at Aerosim Research. kym.phan@aerosim-research.com
She has a batch on order and I think, other than Tom himself, is the only vendor that has the Forester SS.
Make sure you order the harder bushings too, they make a world of difference and are just as easy to install.

The only problem I had was getting the bolt out, and that was just an exercise in patience.
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Old 04-12-2004, 09:15 AM   #10
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She has a batch on order and I think, other than Tom himself, is the only vendor that has the Forester SS.
Not so Kastle actually was the first vendor other than KB (Tom & Mark) to carry the shifter. Direct link to KK for the KB FX-T SS:

http://www.kastleskorner.com/store/p...roducts_id=734

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Old 04-13-2004, 11:25 AM   #11
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Did the install this weekend. Hardest part was getting the damn shifter into the socket. I hit it with my palm on the shift knob and a hammer on a piece of wood. It would not go in. The stock shifter would go in and out easily. I ended up taking a dremel and slightly grinding down the ball. Still had to bang the heck out of it to get it in. I haven't done the bushings yet, but like the shorter throws of the shifter. The shifter itself takes some of the rubbery feel out of the linkage.

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Old 04-13-2004, 11:47 AM   #12
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Did the install this weekend. Hardest part was getting the damn shifter into the socket. ...I ended up taking a dremel and slightly grinding down the ball.
Frank

I did have trouble getting my SS ball in too (on my wrx install), until I figured out that I needed to firmly hold the SS's ball against the nylon socket while I smacked it with the mallet. Popped right in.
Before it was just bouncing back up off of the socket.
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Not so Kastle actually was the first vendor other than KB
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My apologies Kastle.
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Old 04-13-2004, 01:31 PM   #14
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it takes the 98-01 RS shifter not the WRX one....
can anyone verify this? the FXT does have the same shifter as the 98-01 RS?
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Old 04-13-2004, 01:36 PM   #15
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A lot of the problems with getting the shifter in the socket is people are reluctant (and I can see why) to give it a really good firm hit to pop it in. I use a plastic dead blow hammer and after much practice (I've done a few dozen) it can be done in one shot. The first few times I installed them I had a heck of a time thinking I would snap something. Having the shifter at the proper angle helps a lot too. I describe this in the install page I did.
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Old 04-13-2004, 01:38 PM   #16
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can anyone verify this? the FXT does have the same shifter as the 98-01 RS?
The width of the spot the bolt goes through is the same so yes for that part it's the same but the lever is much shorter for the Impreza putting the shift knob pretty low. This is why I worked w/ KB to get something that wasn't way down in the console.
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A lot of the problems with getting the shifter in the socket is people are reluctant (and I can see why) to give it a really good firm hit to pop it in. I use a plastic dead blow hammer and after much practice (I've done a few dozen) it can be done in one shot. The first few times I installed them I had a heck of a time thinking I would snap something. Having the shifter at the proper angle helps a lot too. I describe this in the install page I did.
I wasn't worried about the good whack, I just didn't have a big enuff FH Maybe since I've only got 500 miles on the car it hasn't loosened up enough. I almost gave up since the stock shifter went back in so easily. Oh well, it's in now and my palm and other hand are nice an bruised. I missed with a couple whacks .

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I wasn't worried about the good whack, I just didn't have a big enuff FH
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I smacked the snot out of it the first few times and, like I mentioned, it just bounced up and out. Push down with the hand that is holding the lever, like you are trying to push it in, and then whack it.... the lever that is.
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The width of the spot the bolt goes through is the same so yes for that part it's the same but the lever is much shorter for the Impreza putting the shift knob pretty low. This is why I worked w/ KB to get something that wasn't way down in the console.
so i can put that abandoned unused incorrectly ordered 98-01 RS shifter to use after all
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Oh well, it's in now and my palm and other hand are nice an bruised. I missed with a couple whacks

i recall doing it on my impreza and it would not go in any which way, even with a rubber mallet. then, when i started futzing around with the positioning, it just slid in with a gentle but forceful push with bare hands. its all about the angle of attack i reckon...
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Scooby South- pissed off Volvo, eh?

Pictures, please! You promised!!
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or you could just order a cobb short throw for an xt and have a really clean shifting fxt.



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Old 04-14-2004, 04:52 PM   #22
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I've installed one of those before, they are nice too. Lots of adjustability:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...=&threadid=402

Not sure if at it's highest setting it will be the same level as the stock F-XT shifter though. It was intended to replace a shorter stock lever.



Info here:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...=&threadid=402
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...Not sure if at it's highest setting it will be the same level as the stock F-XT shifter though. It was intended to replace a shorter stock lever....http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...=&threadid=402
~11" per Cobb's site, that's compared to the ~9" stock Forester height. So, you should be able to go even higher than stock for that WRC car feel.
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I myself like the cobb to be very short. And the shifter bushings make is feel so nice.


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Installed the Bartboy lever in the wife's FXT this weekend. WOW!
I have the Kartboy in my WRX and it didn't make the difference that it did in the FXT.
I did do one thing differently though. In order to make install a little easier I bolted the fork to the lever before I pushed the ball back in the socket. In the process of tightening the bolt I noticed that there was still a lot of slop with the bolt tight so....
I kept tightening the fork bolt until the slop was gone but BEFORE it started to bind.
I think I'll pull the lever out of the WRX this week and do the same thing.
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