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Old 04-01-2004, 07:47 PM   #1
jmcomp124
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Question Do you drive your XT Auto like a Manual

I am at about 850 miles almost finishing the 1000 mile break-in period, and I am slowly going towards the 4K rpm mark. I have been careful not to exceed 3500 but occassionally I touch 4K. This morning I started driving it like a manual shift without a clutch. I start with the 2nd gear rev it up to 4K, then shift to 3 rev it up to 4K again and then shift to D. It seems to respond pretty well and gives a small taste of how the manual shift would feel though may not even be close. Is it ok to drive like this? Some of you may have tried this style rather than strictly adhering to the auto, if so, what are your impressions.
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Old 04-02-2004, 09:30 AM   #2
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I have a manual, but I'll weigh in with my $.02.

I know two Honda guys that trashed their tranny's from doing this. A friend of mine owns an '02 WRX auto and shifts it very hard. I haven't read of anyone destroying their Subaru tranny's this way, but who knows what might happened 50k miles or so later. I do it occasionally on my wife's OB.

One thing I would definitely do is to put some synthetic tranny fluid in there (complete flush, not drain/fill). You might be able to find a little more info by searching in the tranny forum.

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Old 04-02-2004, 12:04 PM   #3
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I don't think that is a proper way to drive with an automatic Forester. It isn't one of those cars with a quasi-automatic/manual. The 1/2/3 automatic gears are meant to be used for problem situations like starting off on ice, or holding a lower gear to help the brakes in a long extreme downhill. I wouldn't drive my FXT that way (continual "manual" shifting of the automatic, long-term, while driving the car).

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Old 04-02-2004, 01:31 PM   #4
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Thanks for the response guys. I already stopped doing it.
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Old 04-02-2004, 02:18 PM   #5
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The manual shifts are much harsher than automatic. Also starting in 2nd means that it ONLY uses 2nd, not 1st. One thing I do tend to do is put the selector in 3 for city driving. It gives a bit more engine braking and reduces the extra shift to 4th when you let up to coast to a stoplight. Also gives much better "scoot". If I'm on a two lane highway and planning to pass someone I'll also drop it to 3 as I prepare to nail the throttle.
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Old 04-02-2004, 04:52 PM   #6
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/me doesn't understand. The 4EAT is completely electronically actuated, no? So how is the gearshifter triggering upshifts any different than the TCM triggering upshifts?

Downshifts I can see causing problems, though it is possible to smoothly rev-match downshifts into 3rd and 2nd with left-foot braking and a throttle blip. ( I don't recommend downshifting into 1st - it won't do it anyway unless you're under about 25mph, but it is such a big jump between 2nd and 1st that it's just about impossible to do smoothly.)
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Old 04-02-2004, 06:58 PM   #7
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Maybe I'm just remembering downshifts. When in auto they only happen under acceleration. When manual it's normally when going downhill so the engine is at low rpm's when the shift is initiated but then increases during the shift.
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Old 04-02-2004, 08:02 PM   #8
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/me doesn't understand. The 4EAT is completely electronically actuated, no? So how is the gearshifter triggering upshifts any different than the TCM triggering upshifts?
Yes. And if you step on the pedal quickly to the floor the TCM/ECU goes into an 'Automatic Power Mode' which causes it to behave much more aggressively.
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Old 04-03-2004, 07:00 AM   #9
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I don't think the Auto is that fragile, I used to have (now my wife has) a Auto WRX MY97. I did Club sprints for over 12 month with it, and used to manual shift all the time without any problem. My wife now drives it and does manual shifts of the traffic lights. Much better take off this way. No I don't know how much different the Auto is to the FXT 04. It certainly is much smoother then the MY97 WRX and there is no need to do it manual, but I am experimenting doning a manual shift. Personaly I don't think it will do any damage, If it di their would be a warning in the manual.
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Old 04-04-2004, 03:05 AM   #10
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i have an auto how much slower do u think the auto is then the manual?
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