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Old 07-21-2004, 10:48 PM   #1
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Have a Nice Day? Getting into second w/o making the car hesitate

My father has a 03 baja and getting into 2nd without making the car kinda hesitate is not that easy. I have had 3 stick cars for a total of 7 years of driving a manual and he has 30yrs + including the old country and he cant figure out how to hit 2nd perfectly time after time either. Is this only us or is it that we are used to driving vw and audi's for way too long and its a whole diff ball game driving a subaru stick. Help me out here please!!! I would also like to say that overall Subaru makes a great car and this def will not be the last one.
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Old 07-22-2004, 06:51 PM   #2
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pls help guys anyone
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Old 07-22-2004, 08:41 PM   #3
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Shifting was one reason I sold my 03 and got the turbo with the auto stick.
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Old 07-22-2004, 09:13 PM   #4
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It's easier to make the shift properly at lower RPMs. If you want to shift smoothly at higher RPMs you have to get on the gas more. Try practicing at the lower RPMs until you get the hang of it and gradually work your way up...
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Old 07-22-2004, 09:30 PM   #5
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Maybe you should have the dealer service check it out. We also had a Manual before the auto-stick, it seemed rubbery and a long throw, but no need for a hesitation inbetween 1 & 2. I traded my WRX for a Jetta GLI (6-speed) because I was sick of the tranny noises and difficulties. Even my 200k miles 1987 Toyota GT-S shifted better than my almost new Impreza.

I didn't want to reply to this thread because I'm so fed up with Subaru transmissions..."you are not suppose to down shift" <-----what kind of crap is that?!?!?!

But if you think something is wrong, then something probably is, get it checked out. You know how to drive, don't let them tell you you don't know how. Sorry for the rant, but I feel Subaru could have fixed/improved their trans issues back in 1998, but they still churn out the same old stuff.
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Old 07-23-2004, 03:02 AM   #6
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I wonder what is your shifting point? Does it matter if it occurs more in the downshift, or upshift? When you say hesitation, do you hasitate because you expect the gringing, or it just won't get into the gear and grind?

I agree Subaru shifter takes a bit to get used to (and no, that shouldn't be the execuse for Subaru), but I did get used to downshifting below 2000 rpm by driving Subaru for the last 5 years. Also, you would have a hard time if the pedal isn't fully depressed (rubber mat slid under the pedal?)...
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Old 07-23-2004, 10:35 AM   #7
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My cluch on my 03 manual has to be pressed down all the way before I shift. I usually shift to second around 3K rpm to make a smoth shift. Adding the K&N high flow air filter helped at higher RPM's.
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Old 07-24-2004, 09:33 AM   #8
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Well I shift along with my father at around 3-3.5 thousand rpm, I really have to get off the clutch really easy or it will feel like a bouncy theme park ride. I currently drive a 03 A4 1.8T and when I drive that thing my friends tell me it feels like an auto how smooth it is. In the meanwhile when I drive the Baja its a whole other story. I also took my cousin BF out the other night for a ride, he had a 00 Impreza 2.5 and he said it was the same crap. At the next service visit I will make mention how the shifting stinks on the car but I guess I will have to live with it from what it sounds. Thanks for the input also guys you have been a great help.
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Old 07-24-2004, 01:41 PM   #9
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I have had a coupld of 5mt subarus in the past and all of them have the same thing that you are mentioning. It takes a while to get used to the gear ratios, but the differance between 1st and 2nd are so different that it will cause a little hickup which some call hesitation. All of the research that I have done I have concluded that the cause is that the 1st gear is set for a lot of torque and then going to 2nd wthich has a lot less, so there will be a little jump. I learned that there is a little more play with the clutch. Once you learn the transistion, it will be smooth as driving a 4mt.

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Old 07-24-2004, 06:04 PM   #10
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i was just worried that it was not normal and more of a warrenty problem that the dealer has not addressed when I have asked. thanks for the info bajanut
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:48 PM   #11
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I have an 03 5sp. I admit that it was a problem when I first started driving the car. I drove 8 hours to pick it up to begin with, so I had some practice on the way back. It doesn't really become a problem (to me) if you are between 3500 and 4000 rpm. I have had 3 other manual cars. The 98 Sentra shifted somewhat smooth, the 90 Miata shifted really well (love the close gears), and the 76 corvette shifted really bad (which is why technology marches on) LOL. I agree with a few people here though, put the car around 3500 and then shift.
Hey for the first few months, my wife and I just learned to drink (diet cokes) between shifts. LOL Once you are in 5th it's cool.
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Old 08-08-2004, 01:19 AM   #12
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haha, i had a 14 hour drive to pick mine up so i too had some practice on the way back (which is good, considering it's my first manual tranny). Anyway, now that your all talking about a hesitation to second, it makes me feel a little better about driving mine, as i do the same thing. I'm starting to get the hang of it though. As a hint of something that helps, when shifting into second, keep a LITTLE bit of gas on, the problem i've seen is the revs falling too quick.

If their falling too slow and it's causing the hesitation, well then, i guess i'm shifting too slow, lol. Just a newbie thought.
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