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View Poll Results: How many of you guys are doing or are thinking of ej20 swap instead of AFI?
ej20 swap 16 47.06%
AFI all the way baby!!! 18 52.94%
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Old 08-04-2004, 01:46 PM   #1
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Default How many of you guys went from RS-T to wrx swap?

I installed my turbo kit a few months ago, now I'm thinking of getting a wrx swap and just get it over with and not have to worry so much about my high compression motor blowing and having to retune it every now and then.

So how many of you guys are sticking w/ the 2.5 turbo and how many of you guys are going or are thinking of just swapping the wrx ej20 motor in your cars?
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Old 08-04-2004, 02:37 PM   #2
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Heh, I think "Gave up boost altogether" should be an option, too.
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Old 08-04-2004, 03:12 PM   #3
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Yeah, and a third option for scrapping RS-T and buy a Factory Boosted car
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Old 08-04-2004, 03:56 PM   #4
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4th....what about us Frankenstein Scoobs?
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Old 08-04-2004, 09:51 PM   #5
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I would definitely fall in that category!
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Old 10-14-2004, 12:38 AM   #6
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4th....what about us Frankenstein Scoobs?
I think that would be me. I think we are all comming to the understanding that highcompression factory pistons just aint gonna cut it.

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Old 08-04-2004, 11:10 PM   #7
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I'm gonna miss my RS-T
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Old 08-05-2004, 12:52 AM   #8
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frankensteins are cool but too expensive for a poor college kid like me...
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Old 08-05-2004, 03:30 AM   #9
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Do the swap. Be happy and reliable... then put on a big turbo and blow up another motor.

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Old 08-05-2004, 09:58 AM   #10
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For 7K for a swap, just sell your car, sell your kit, and buy a WRX... but you loose the looks of the 98-01 RS
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Old 08-05-2004, 02:45 PM   #11
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why buy a wrx and then be several hundred pounds heavier?...
keep the GC like you said and if you have a decent amount of money put in a Ver. 7 or Ver. 8 engine
then run low 12's on stock power/reliability...

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Old 08-05-2004, 12:27 PM   #12
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I'm keepin the car-no gd is gonna replace my gc! Frankenstein scoobs go under AFI all the way! I wouldn't mind a frankenstein scoob. I make a decent amount of money, but would rather spend the time and money else where (or not spend ). Plus, I don't have a beater car.
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Old 08-05-2004, 04:33 PM   #13
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Turboed it. Blew it up, turboed it again. Blew a turbo this time. Did a motor swap. Loved it. The swap doesn't compare.

Reliability-No contest
Power-Take more money to build the ej25 to be faster. ej20's have made more power. (exception ej257, still a turbo "swap" motor)
Cost-Most have found the swap is a bit (if at all with prices these days) more pricy up front but cheaper in the long run.
Bling-Swap....samco hoses, cool IC's, inlet pipes, elbow pipes, sti intake manifold if sti swap.

RS-T's have their merit in that they can be cheap, and they were awesome before swaps became big. But swaps just make sense. It's the motor the gc8 was SUPPOSED to have anyway Yes i'm biased though
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Old 10-14-2004, 06:02 AM   #14
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Turboed it. Blew it up, turboed it again. Blew a turbo this time. Did a motor swap. Loved it. The swap doesn't compare.

Reliability-No contest
Power-Take more money to build the ej25 to be faster. ej20's have made more power. (exception ej257, still a turbo "swap" motor)
Cost-Most have found the swap is a bit (if at all with prices these days) more pricy up front but cheaper in the long run.
Bling-Swap....samco hoses, cool IC's, inlet pipes, elbow pipes, sti intake manifold if sti swap.

RS-T's have their merit in that they can be cheap, and they were awesome before swaps became big. But swaps just make sense. It's the motor the gc8 was SUPPOSED to have anyway Yes i'm biased though
You're partially right but:

1.- Anyone with an RS-T that blows the engine doesn't know what he's doing in terms of parts and in terms of tuning. Boosting a N/A car with reliability takes a lot of research, knowledge and experience. I've been boosted for 3 years @ 10-12 psis (daily driver) and my engine is in PERFECT state; about 3 months ago I did a compression test on all four cylinders and guess what? FACTORY READINGS...
2.-As far as reliability, read point no.1 again.
3.-Power.... STI ball park. My average 1/4 mile is 13 flat. My best 12.52 @ 109mph. It takes some serious $$$ to have a 13.00 1/4 mile WRX engine running reliable.
4.-In terms of cost it's a 50/50 issue; depends a good of a shopper you are.
5.-Bling, bling no contest.... but you can always get a few goodies.

AFI all the way....

ps.-You can always build the engine into a MONSTER once all your car related debts are paid in like in my case...... it's time for pistons, springs, valves, retainers, block work, cams.......
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Old 10-14-2004, 04:19 PM   #15
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You're partially right but:

1.- Anyone with an RS-T that blows the engine doesn't know what he's doing in terms of parts and in terms of tuning. Boosting a N/A car with reliability takes a lot of research, knowledge and experience. I've been boosted for 3 years @ 10-12 psis (daily driver) and my engine is in PERFECT state; about 3 months ago I did a compression test on all four cylinders and guess what? FACTORY READINGS...
2.-As far as reliability, read point no.1 again.
3.-Power.... STI ball park. My average 1/4 mile is 13 flat. My best 12.52 @ 109mph. It takes some serious $$$ to have a 13.00 1/4 mile WRX engine running reliable.
4.-In terms of cost it's a 50/50 issue; depends a good of a shopper you are.
5.-Bling, bling no contest.... but you can always get a few goodies.

AFI all the way....

ps.-You can always build the engine into a MONSTER once all your car related debts are paid in like in my case...... it's time for pistons, springs, valves, retainers, block work, cams.......
You're the exception not the rule Congrats, glad to see it works and works well for some.

As for #1 yes, you are right, when i turboed my car i had 0 idea of what i was doing, which is why i like the swap more, it's alot more idiot proof.

Nowadays though with the sti shortblock it seems cheaper to do that and build a turbo kit than to do a swap. It's a great piece by piece solution.

Nonetheless i will still be an ej20 and swap fan, and from the looks of it you will be an AFI fan. That's cool, enjoy your car
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Old 10-14-2004, 04:21 PM   #16
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You're partially right but:

1.- Anyone with an RS-T that blows the engine doesn't know what he's doing in terms of parts and in terms of tuning. Boosting a N/A car with reliability takes a lot of research, knowledge and experience. I've been boosted for 3 years @ 10-12 psis (daily driver) and my engine is in PERFECT state; about 3 months ago I did a compression test on all four cylinders and guess what? FACTORY READINGS...
2.-As far as reliability, read point no.1 again.
3.-Power.... STI ball park. My average 1/4 mile is 13 flat. My best 12.52 @ 109mph. It takes some serious $$$ to have a 13.00 1/4 mile WRX engine running reliable.
4.-In terms of cost it's a 50/50 issue; depends a good of a shopper you are.
5.-Bling, bling no contest.... but you can always get a few goodies.

AFI all the way....

ps.-You can always build the engine into a MONSTER once all your car related debts are paid in like in my case...... it's time for pistons, springs, valves, retainers, block work, cams.......
hey can you build up my car

damn and i was just in puerto rico

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Old 08-05-2004, 06:48 PM   #17
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Another reason is I live in the republic of Kalifornia, and I'm gonna need to smog my car soon. And I have a feeling my catless AFI ej25 w/ standalone is not gonna do very well...

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Old 08-05-2004, 08:08 PM   #18
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Another reason is I live in the republic of Kalifornia, and I'm gonna need to smog my car soon. And I have a feeling my catless AFI ej25 w/ standalone is gonna do very well...

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Old 08-05-2004, 10:08 PM   #19
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I'm waiting till my motor blows then I'll do an ej20 swap. When the ej20 blows, I'll swap in a Hemi
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Old 08-05-2004, 11:35 PM   #20
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when my motor blows I am gonna do a USDM V8 STI shortblock. I wish I had the $ to do it now.
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Old 08-06-2004, 01:21 PM   #21
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when my motor blows I am gonna do a USDM V8 STI shortblock. I wish I had the $ to do it now.
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They make V8s in the sti now?? That thing got a hemi???


HOK -- edited my post up there
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Old 08-05-2004, 07:10 PM   #22
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I think everyone knows the risk and reliability issues of AFI, so a swap always sounds so great. That's why I'm going from an EJ18T to an EJ20G. Sha-weet!

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Old 08-05-2004, 11:37 PM   #23
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When my motor blew, I bought another EJ18 for $80. Budget project!
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Old 08-06-2004, 01:27 PM   #24
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Then you'll have an STi weighing in at a porky 4000lbs.
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Old 08-06-2004, 10:46 PM   #25
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What about home brewed RS-t, Sold for a factory AFI car, then picked up a shell and started a motor swap. Option.
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