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Old 06-27-2001, 12:45 PM   #1
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Unhappy Smoother shifting?

I got the Shifter installed. ( Thanks Josh) But I want a smoother shift. Will the Cusco bushings help? What can I do to improve my shifting. Who can tell me some technics on shifting? i.e. Power shifting, Double shifting, etc...
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Old 06-27-2001, 01:17 PM   #2
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I recently installed the Syms kit + cusco bushings on my car..

First off, this kit is obscenely nice. Installing it turned out to be a pain that I couldn't do without dropping the tranny a bit, so I cheated a bit and popped the shift level itself out and replaced it like shown for the shifters that only replace that one thing.

Also, I dumped the bushings from the Syms kit and switched in the cusco bushings, mainly because the Cusco ones are harder.

The improvement in shifter feel was wonderful, and I have all of 4" of shift travel. Friends with sticks say that their throws are around 6 to 8, sometimes 9" depending on the car, and love how my shifter feels now.

I would highly, highly suggest the cusco bushings, they seem to be the hardest ones out there, and offer the greatest advantages. Also, I would not suggest installing a $300 shift kit when its only the lever and the bushings that are different (didn't notice any difference between the bushings where they meet to the back of the tranny tunnel). But thats for you to decide =)
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Old 06-27-2001, 01:23 PM   #3
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I think I will try for the bushings then. Afterall they're only $10 a pop. Thanks for the info.









Where are you Josh!!!
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Old 06-27-2001, 07:33 PM   #4
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If you need some help installing the bushings, let me know, they're fairly easy to do if you have an area to jack the car up or have access to a lift. Only hard part I encountered was getting the stock bushing out; its 1 solid piece and an absolute pain to get out without careful use of a lever against the tranny tunnel.

Took all of an hour to switch those out, but I was following directions and trying to take some decent video for my own fun and joy.

If anyone ever finds harder bushings than the cusco ones, I'd love to know where to get them, its an absolute blast when you go to shift now.
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Old 06-28-2001, 11:40 AM   #5
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I have also noticed that when the shifter is in gear, it still can be moved about a half inch left and right. Is this normal? C'mon subie specialists, help me out!
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Old 06-28-2001, 12:51 PM   #6
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Be carefull. I first got the cusco bushings thinking harder is better. I also picked up a short throw shifter. Yes the feel is much more of a click-in. I had them install free by a local shop. I took it out for a test drive and found my shifter wildly vibrating at all rpms. I could still hear it over the stereo, pumped up with windows down. It was too much. This was with the stock leather shift-top even. I took the car back the same day and had the STI bushings install. The stock bushings were gravy soft, the cusco bushings were rocks. the STI bushings were very sold hard rubber. The outside was kinda soft but the more you tryed to bend them the hader they would get. I had them installed and loved them. They felt exactly the same as the cuscos with no vibration at all. The shifts still click in and felt very stiff.
Just my .02
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Old 06-28-2001, 12:56 PM   #7
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Where did you get the STi bushings? How much where they? Don't break me now!
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Old 06-28-2001, 02:08 PM   #8
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Hmm, I don't feel any abnormal vibrations through the shifter after I installed them. Are you sure that everything was torqued down correctly and that they were installed with the metal plate on?
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Old 06-28-2001, 02:26 PM   #9
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Default I think Kartboy bushings are harder...

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I recently installed the Syms kit + cusco bushings on my car..

I would highly, highly suggest the cusco bushings, they seem to be the hardest ones out there, and offer the greatest advantages. Also, I would not suggest installing a $300 shift kit when its only the lever and the bushings that are different (didn't notice any difference between the bushings where they meet to the back of the tranny tunnel). But thats for you to decide =)
I think Kartboy bushings are probably harder (I have Cusco). Doesn't N1 or somebody make a bushing set that is Delrin? This is a hard white nylon and would be harder than either Cusco or Kartboy...

Doug

Edit: I just pulled out my RS shifter and replaced it with a Graham Goode. I have the Cusco bushings. I have noticed a buzzing/humming noise that seems to be coming through the shifter since I changed it. It isn't bad, and there isn't any visible vibration, but I didn't notice it before with the RS shifter. I wonder if the rubber in the middle dampens the vibration on the RS shifter?

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Old 06-28-2001, 02:28 PM   #10
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As far as smoother shifting I would look at replacing the tranny fluid with something like Redline MT-90.
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Old 06-29-2001, 01:22 PM   #11
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I second you Jeff... I had my transmission oil changed on my car (which is not a subaru, yet!) to Redline oil and the feel is much better. Before the change, I had a real hard time downshifting in 1st when going 5 mph... but now, it's working way better, so I can sell the damn car more easily and get the impreza!

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Old 07-03-2001, 02:01 PM   #12
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Rallispec shows:RS008 RalliSpec Shifter Stay Bushing $35
Machined from delrin.
They are very light, hard and grey. I had those installed with their short shifter and engine/trans mounts from Primitive. There is a little vibration transmitted to the frame at idle, but nothing moves and the shift pattern is extremely tight and precise.
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Old 07-03-2001, 03:10 PM   #13
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I have the rallispec bushings... they are excellent. No Buzz from them, and really really solid.
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Old 07-09-2001, 11:46 AM   #14
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Talking getting rid of it...

after much consideration, i have come to the conclusion that i getting rid of the short-throw shifter. I used it for a week and I want to get another one... $100.00 for the entire set. OBO


any takers?
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Old 07-09-2001, 12:47 PM   #15
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