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Old 07-03-2001, 11:45 PM   #1
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Default Man, I'm gonna hide in here.

I can't believe the number of stupid newbies flooding this board and giving out bad advice.

Think I'm gonna hide out here in the Legacy forum until it's safe.

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Old 07-04-2001, 12:55 AM   #2
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I have kinda noticed the same thing over the past couple of months. I think everything started going to pot when i-club got the good write up in SCC several months ago. Now it seems the general and other forums are filling up with 19 year old idiots
You are welcome in the more "mature" Legacy crowd any day.
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Old 07-04-2001, 02:04 AM   #3
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hehe..you guys haven't been doing your jobs lately by screeching @ the newbies to do some searching in the archives!

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Old 07-04-2001, 02:53 AM   #4
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It's not the questions that are the problem, it's the answers. I haven't seen so much bad advice in a long, long time.
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Old 07-04-2001, 10:46 AM   #5
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so why not call them out on it? let them know that the advice is bad. maybe they'll learn something.

if i'm one of the newbies doing it, please pm me. i don't handle public humiliation well.

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Old 07-04-2001, 12:24 PM   #6
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Just be like me, don't give advice, constantly ask for it

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Old 07-04-2001, 03:57 PM   #7
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I appreciate this forum for many reasons, but the most important are that i own a Legacy, and that Legacy owners are generally a bit more mature. This makes the whole place much more civil.

Imprezas are nice, but the first time i saw a Turbo back in the early 90s, i knew i wanted one. When the Impreza debuted, i wasn't impressed at all, still ain't.

Thanks for making my job easy here
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Old 07-04-2001, 06:30 PM   #8
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Everyone forgets that the Legacies had (have) the same engines, and that doesn't even include the turbo Legacies. I have a couple Subarus, one of which is a 92 Legacy, and that thing is rock solid, much more so than your average RS, in a few ways.

I think the WRX brought a lot of people to the i-club who normally wouldn't have looked twice at a Subaru.
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Old 07-05-2001, 12:03 AM   #9
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it certainly seems that way. look at the number of i-club members since the wrx has come out. membership has pretty much doubled in the last few months and the number of posts in the wrx forum has gone wild.

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Old 07-05-2001, 09:08 AM   #10
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Well, some of us new Impreza owners are former Legacy GT owners....

I think that things will die down once the furor goes away, and the WRX becomes just another $25K car. But indeed, the overall maturity level has fallen a bit, and the amount of poor advice has gone up. I try to chime in when I know enough about a topic to be of assistance to someone, as we all should.

The only thing that really worries me about all of the WRX focus is its potential for divisiveness amongst the Subaru faithful. I have never seen a car that engenders so many "WRX vs...(insert car here)" comparos. I always say, "Who cares?" You didn't buy the car to race it, you bought it to enjoy it.

But I suppose that's the more level-headed Legacy owner in me speaking...

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Old 07-05-2001, 12:05 PM   #11
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I hate this board.... really I do.... but it is the only way that I can get in touch with a few key people. I read the Legacy forum because it is the last of the uncorrupted forums. I love you guys, even you, Mr. Tang, and your B4 pictures!

I've been lurking on the Ultimate Subaru Message Board, but there is not as much info for the newer gen cars there... -shrug-

Oh well... Let's just make an effort to keep the signal-to-noise ratio even in here!

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Old 07-05-2001, 12:45 PM   #12
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Those B4 pix always kill me. Drool!
Yah, I think the personality of the whole board has changed radically since the WRX debut. I agree a lot of these folks never really gave a crap about Subaru before the WRX, kinda sad really.
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Old 07-05-2001, 12:57 PM   #13
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[i]I love you guys, even you, Mr. Tang, and your B4 pictures! [/b]
i'm innocent! i had nothing to do with those b4 pics!

but how about an rsk interior?


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Old 07-05-2001, 03:42 PM   #14
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I love the stories about people who get comments about their Legacies when people think they're WRXes.

When they tell them that it's a Legacy, they sometimes say "oh, i thought it was a Subaru". It is, dummy. A similar thing happened to a friend with his '01 RS Sedan.

Ah well.

Keep those B4 pics coming, we can dream!
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Old 07-05-2001, 07:43 PM   #15
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I'm a 19 year old idiot.

No ... really, I am!

But I too have noticed the influx of idiots.... especially in the powertrain forums.


What exhaust is the best?

Which exhaust will make me sound like a honda?

Which exhaust has the biggest tip opening?

I want a bigger exhaust!


Now... I don't have problems with asking questions about what muffler to buy (I even started a thread myself a few months ago, before buying gtguy's stromung... which is excellent, btw) but these people need to learn to do searches.

First thing I do whenever I go to a new board (or even this one) is to do a search for keywords related to my query.

Oh, and the USMB (where I'm a moderator) is a great place for technical advise. There are some guys in the 80's forum who have insane collections of older scoobies and rebuild them every other week.

The newer gen has a bit less technical knowledge, but you are still very likely to get your question answered.
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Old 07-06-2001, 12:58 AM   #16
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There you are! Get back over to the newbie Impreza side! Somebody is asking whether they should get bleached or smoked lenses!

I'm Impreza by default; i bought my RS cause i couldn't find a 97-99 Legacy gt wagon in my area. I like to come by the Legacy forum to get away from it all too. Its just that damn BEN!!! Those B4 pics STAB at my soul each time...

Each time i visit this side of the board i get closer & closer to selling my RS (which i really do love) to get a GT wagon and make into an Impreza killer So PLEASE, push me over that edge!
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Old 07-06-2001, 01:12 AM   #17
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I am one of those 19 year old idiots, as you say, but in my opinion, there are the uneducated and the idiots. the difference is that the idiots don't know when to keep their mouths shut or when they don't know anything. I joined this club for the mature feel of a Legacy, I shall always be a Legacy driver, the Impreza is a nice car yes, however i only see it as a prelude, intrega, etc. to get a bunch of rice boys interested with a few flashy boltons. that is now how i want my car. and i joined to get advice from my scoobie elders. Please don't see me as a nuisance, merely a protege (:
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Old 07-06-2001, 03:55 AM   #18
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Its just that damn BEN!!! Those B4 pics STAB at my soul each time...
look i said i was innocent!!! okay i won't post any b4 pics... only rsk's from now on!





and not it's not my book

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Old 07-06-2001, 04:32 AM   #19
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Hi,
I'm another one of those 19 yr old idiots who also happens to drive a Legacy
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Old 07-06-2001, 06:00 AM   #20
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Hey guys, I don't remember anyone saying 19yr olds are x, y, or z. But then again, some of us owners are "older" - but we still enjoy "playing" and tuning our cars.

I still remember when I was 19 - just. I had destroyed my Skyline RS, and was driving a nasty GM car.

The one thing I did that was smart at age 19 was do an advanced driving course. Learning that I was not the best "Fangio" on the road was the best lesson/reality check, then actually learning how to drive and survive was fun and invaluable.

Old guy getting off soap box...

Cheers, enjoy!!
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Old 07-06-2001, 08:36 AM   #21
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i don't think newbiness is an age thing. it's a state of mind. you can be 100 years old and still be a dumb-ass newbie on the i-club. or 19 or 20 and be one of the more knowledgable people on here.

anotherb4 - how do you go from a skyline to a gm car (unless it was a corvette)?

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Old 07-06-2001, 09:22 AM   #22
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To me, the comforting thing about the Legacy folks (hey, I'm still one in spirit, like SubieGal) is that they realize that their cars aren't the fastest cars in the world, and can't be made that way.

If I see one more "WRX doesn't impress me..." post, I'm going to scream. As I recall, Subaru never said "Hey, this is the fastest, best handling car in the world." That's why on the advert, they show the car sliding sideways through the mud (well, the rally car, anyhow). But the hype has people expecting the car to be an AWD rocket sled. Gaaah!

Legacy folks know what their cars can do, look to improve it for their own fun and satisfaction, the rest of the world be hanged. I think that I'm one of the few WRX owners who bring that attitude to the Impreza, so you won't see me running MBC's and big fart tip exhausts. My exhaust is a nice Cobb cat-back, since I don't feel like throwing CE lights for an extra 5-8 hp over a cat-back.

Hey remarcable, how's that Stromung treating you? And froggert, ditto for the Teins. I feel like there are bits of my car all over the country.

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Old 07-06-2001, 09:46 AM   #23
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kevin - the teins are nice. the ride is not luxo-barge smooth, but the car goes exactly where i want it to. i'm saving on brake pads, too - don't have to slow down nearly as much for turns.

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Old 07-06-2001, 10:52 AM   #24
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Default ! idea !

Maybe all prominent buyers of subarus should have to take a mandatory test. Maybe questions like:

1.) Do you like slammed hondas with OMG MY EXHAUST IS SOOO BIG IT BARELY FITS UNDER MY ELITE CAR mufflers? Y___ N___

2.) Are you stupid? Y___ N___

3.) Does the chrome hubcaps at Pep boys catch your eye? Y___ N___

4.) Do Subarus own you? Y___ N___
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Old 07-06-2001, 10:58 AM   #25
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Pep boyeeees. ha ha ha. such a joke.
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