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Old 03-22-2005, 06:40 PM   #1
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Need some help....I am a former owner of a Legacy GT Limited sedan. I had an accident and sold it to get an SUV......I know big mistake. I am thinking of coming back to subaru as I really need AWD where I live in Upstate New York. I am thinking of getting an Impreza this time around but am not sure which model to get. I want to have a sporty feeling car and was wondering if people thought that there regular TS or RS had enough fun behind the wheel or should I be thinking WRX?? Your thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks
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Old 03-22-2005, 06:55 PM   #2
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Ive got an 02 2.5rs and i love it, it has a few mods, and even though ive driven a wrx before i still love my 2.5. if you want to have a fast car with endless possibilities get the rex but if you want to converse money and do a few mods with a lighter car go with a 2.5. thats my input
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Old 03-22-2005, 07:01 PM   #3
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I have a cobb intake as the only mod on my 04 ts wagon, and while it helps greatly, i still am kind of left wishing i had a little more power. It has plenty of power for commuting. I guess i am just getting used to it and catching the tuning bug.
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Old 03-22-2005, 07:02 PM   #4
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there's some fun but the wrx is a HUGE performance 'boost'

if you can i'd say get the wrx
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Old 03-22-2005, 07:13 PM   #5
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i assume that you are looking for a used vehicle since the ts became the rs wagon in 2005. blue book (private party) on a 2002-2004 ts is somewhere between 10.5k-13.8k. rs is between 12.6k-16.3k. wrx wagon is between 15.3k-19k. wrx sedan is between 17.5k-19k. Depends on what you want and what you can afford. I think for 5k less than a wrx, a N/A is a still a sweet deal.
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Old 03-22-2005, 10:41 PM   #6
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WRX is the only realistic option

Sam2 has a killer WRX wagon for sale in Austin

check out the TXIC forum for sale thread
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Old 03-22-2005, 11:49 PM   #7
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yea..i have an 02 RS and its a cool car...but a wrx is a lot faster...i'd say spend the extra 5k and get the wrx. its like the same price of getting an rs and putting a turbo kit or wrx swap...except that its all under warrenty and street legal. not to mention the endless availabilty of mods you can do to it. rs is a good car, but sometimes i wished i spent the extra money for the wrx.
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Old 03-23-2005, 09:15 AM   #8
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i would also keep in mind for me at least the wrx was a ton of more money to insure. Just something else to look into when figuring prices.
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Old 03-23-2005, 11:42 PM   #9
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i would also keep in mind for me at least the wrx was a ton of more money to insure. Just something else to look into when figuring prices.
not true. i had a 2002 2.5rs sedan and i liked it.. for about a day. i had a chance to get a wrx instead of it but i decieded on the 2.5 and regreted it every day after that. i paid it off and bought a rex. i really love it. its unbelievable.

back to the insurance thing. i was paying $3,800/yr for my rs. i bought the rex and thought that insurance would kill me. i'm paying $400 less a year than i did with my rs. go figure.
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Old 03-23-2005, 09:59 AM   #10
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Canton, eh? I've got family from the area, and I know the winters there well.

I've got a TS, 2004 model year. Its a blast and cheap to insure. Find some WRX takeoff wheels, get a set of solid endlinks, and a bigger rear sway bar. I've also added a WRX head unit (6cd/tape in dash) and don't really feel a need for anymore mods to the car. Sure, its not as fast as a WRX, but with fuel/insurance prices, I can't justify the purchase of a WRX. Plus I like having torque.

PM me if you have any questions or are looking for something specific.
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Old 03-23-2005, 11:37 AM   #11
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I often go for drives with my local Subaru club. I have a TS and most other people have either WRX's or STi's. On the twisty gravel or snowy bits I can easily keep up with or even out pace the more powerful cars. On the paved straights I get my ass whipped. An STi that is properly set up for gravel/snow and in the hands of a very experienced driver would no doubt beat me, but for the average driver 165hp is more that enough for twisty road fun.

Edit: If you get a TS, get a Rear Sway Bar off a WRX.

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Old 03-23-2005, 11:55 AM   #12
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Thanks for all of the responses. I am thinking that a TS/RS is the way to go. I want to sell the SUV to save on the expense...gas etc....and although I would get better gas millage with a WRX I am sure that the increase in insurance would ofset some of the savings. The smart way to go would probably be the TS/RS. I just never found the 165hp to be that thriilling in the Legacy but maybe the weight difference between the Legacy and the Impreza would make a difference. Keep your thoughts coming!! Thanks
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Old 03-23-2005, 12:10 PM   #13
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No doubt you'll have alotta fun with the RS. If you get a WRX you'll have even more fun, but may have more problems with it, not many RS owners have as many problems as the WRX owners do, ive read or heard about people having tranny problems, Engine problems, etc...

The RS is the more reliable car, and doesn't do bad for 165hp.
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Old 03-23-2005, 12:28 PM   #14
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i own an 03 RS. I used to work at a subaru dealership here in NY and have driven the full line...TS, RS, WRX and STi. Realistically speaking the TS/RS would be the better option, as insurance prices in NY are rediculous. The WRX/STi insurance rates can get as high as 50% over those of the TS/RS. Also, if you go for the RS sedan, there are a ton of mods that you can do to the car becasue the engine is exactly the same as the previous model RS, and all body components from the wrx will fit the RS as well. for example i am running an 03 RS with the following mods.

-c-west v2 front bumper
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with all of this i have 197 whp with 216 fpt

needless to say dont be discouraged there is plenty for us RS owners also

well thats my 2 cents

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Old 03-23-2005, 06:24 PM   #15
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Quote:
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Thanks for all of the responses. I am thinking that a TS/RS is the way to go. I want to sell the SUV to save on the expense...gas etc....and although I would get better gas millage with a WRX I am sure that the increase in insurance would ofset some of the savings. The smart way to go would probably be the TS/RS. I just never found the 165hp to be that thriilling in the Legacy but maybe the weight difference between the Legacy and the Impreza would make a difference. Keep your thoughts coming!! Thanks
Insurance quoted me the same for the rs and the wrx, but the sti was a lot more.

I'd say wrx cuz you can't go wrong with turbo.
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Old 03-24-2005, 10:12 AM   #16
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I just never found the 165hp to be that thriilling in the Legacy but maybe the weight difference between the Legacy and the Impreza would make a difference. Keep your thoughts coming!! Thanks
weight difference of 2004 impreza rs vs. 2002 legacy gt sedan is 380lb. (curb wieght) That is a weight savings of 11.3%.
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Old 03-23-2005, 01:45 PM   #17
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cai,BORLA headers, n1, and ecu flash is giving you 197 whp? what ecu flash? i'd like to see some dyno graphs...
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Old 03-23-2005, 03:15 PM   #18
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agreed

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cai,BORLA headers, n1, and ecu flash is giving you 197 whp? what ecu flash? i'd like to see some dyno graphs...
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Old 03-23-2005, 03:46 PM   #19
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I'd say get an old GC8 model L, and do a full WRX drivetrain swap. If only I had the foresight to do this myself, sigh...
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Old 03-23-2005, 03:47 PM   #20
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cai,BORLA headers, n1, and ecu flash is giving you 197 whp? what ecu flash? i'd like to see some dyno graphs...
Me too, since my car with cams pulls 151whp!
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Old 03-23-2005, 03:46 PM   #21
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Get a MY00 or MY01 RS in the GC chassis. 300lbs lighter than a WRX and a couple hundred lighter than later TS/RS. With standard bolt ons will get you to around 185-90hp. The brake and suspension upgrades are endless. And if you want to play with 200+hp it is only a set of cams away. And the price of entry is less than $10k if you shop smart...
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Old 03-23-2005, 03:51 PM   #22
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Get a MY00 or MY01 RS in the GC chassis.
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If you're going to buy an RS, why deal with the weight penalty and homely looks of the GD?

Just don't buy one in that lame-o blue ridge pearl color. <zips up flamesuit>
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Old 03-28-2005, 04:19 PM   #23
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If you're going to buy an RS, why deal with the weight penalty and homely looks of the GD?

Just don't buy one in that lame-o blue ridge pearl color. <zips up flamesuit>
The GC has less structual reenforcment, so if you love creaks, squeaks and groans, sure. Get a GD you'll be happier in the long run (though the GC are Very good looking). Also remember That the 2.5 gets the 4.11 gears! That's a pretty big deal. REally the only benifits going WRX over 2.5 RS (TO ME IMHO) is the LSD rear diff (not that great anyway) and the larger rear sway. You get everything else with the 2.5 RS Except the 2.0T, and I like the power delivery on the 2.5 Better. Now if the 06 WRX gets the 2.5 turbo, well then all bets are off! Oh and Diz is right, Blue ridge pearl is Ugly!
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Old 03-23-2005, 06:11 PM   #24
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very true
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Old 03-23-2005, 06:49 PM   #25
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The RS is fun, and obviously has potential, but if you've got the bucks I'd say go WRX, no questions asked. You'll lose that around-town torque--which rather sucks--but otherwise it's a MUCH better car, in my opinion.

Yes, heavier, but you hardly notice when you've got that engine on your side.

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