Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Monday October 20, 2014
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
Click here to visit TireRack
Tire & Wheel Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack

Losing traction? Need new tires?
Click here to visit the NASIOC Upgrade Garage...
Here you can view your subscribed threads, work with private messages and edit your profile and preferences Home Registration is free! Visit the NASIOC Store NASIOC Rules Search Find other members Frequently Asked Questions Calendar Archive NASIOC Upgrade Garage Logout
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Technical > Tire & Wheel

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-04-2005, 01:41 AM   #1
jdevee1
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 64802
Join Date: Jun 2004
Default Hankook Ventus R-s2

After searching and reading reviews I think I'm going to get the HANKOOK VENTUS R-S2 tires for my 05 wagon.

What are the chances of getting 25K+ miles out of these? I haven't found much information about long term wear. I do the occasional auto-x and I drive pretty conservatively on the street with the occasional 40 MPH, 90 degree turn or the 90 MPH sweeper when it's safe to do so. Probably 40% city 60% hwy.

The only other option I've found that I like that would seem to provide a little bit better wear would be the BFG G-Force Sports but would they be anywhere near as sticky as the R-S2?

Also, I will be using these on the stock 16x6.5 rims. With the BFGs I could squeze in a 215/55 without too much bulging. The only size wider than the 205/55 in the R-S2 is the 225/50. Are the sidewalls of the R-S2s stiff enough that I could run the 225s on a 6.5" wheel without too much turn-in loss?

Thanks,
Jeff
jdevee1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2005, 09:17 AM   #2
AttaQ
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 20301
Join Date: Jun 2002
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Streamwood, IL
Vehicle:
2004 BMW M3
lightweight optioned

Default

It will currently be hard to find good long term mileage numbers out of these Hankook's since they are so new. Pretty much all you will find right now is estimates.
AttaQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2005, 11:58 AM   #3
speednby
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 86316
Join Date: May 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: South Jersey
Vehicle:
2003 WRX Wagon
I eat rice...Its good 4 u

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdevee1
Also, I will be using these on the stock 16x6.5 rims. With the BFGs I could squeze in a 215/55 without too much bulging. The only size wider than the 205/55 in the R-S2 is the 225/50. Are the sidewalls of the R-S2s stiff enough that I could run the 225s on a 6.5" wheel without too much turn-in loss?

Thanks,
Jeff
Bump for same info???
speednby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2005, 01:48 PM   #4
Wedge
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 2279
Join Date: Sep 2000
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: The MIA
Vehicle:
2000 Slingshot
Pastelito Racing

Default

I've had them on since April. 215x45x17. I've also tracked them at Homestead, and still have a lot of meat left, considering their 200TW. They are an AWESOME tire, and get really sticky when warmed up. Plus, you can't go wrong with the price. Definitely an excellent competition to the Azenis 615.
Wedge is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2005, 01:52 PM   #5
Uncle Scotty
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:
OK Houston
we have an Uncle

Default

My set has ~1500 miles on 'em and so far, for the $$$ , impossible to beat---IMO
Uncle Scotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2005, 02:08 PM   #6
speednby
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 86316
Join Date: May 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: South Jersey
Vehicle:
2003 WRX Wagon
I eat rice...Its good 4 u

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdevee1
Also, I will be using these on the stock 16x6.5 rims. With the BFGs I could squeze in a 215/55 without too much bulging. The only size wider than the 205/55 in the R-S2 is the 225/50. Are the sidewalls of the R-S2s stiff enough that I could run the 225s on a 6.5" wheel without too much turn-in loss?

Thanks,
Jeff


Yeah... I've been getting good feedback on them.... I just wish I could get someone to tell me if they are running 225/50's on stock 16 x 6.5 wheels???
speednby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2005, 02:15 PM   #7
PossumK
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 53548
Join Date: Jan 2004
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Vehicle:
2004 WRX PSM (sold)
2007 S2000

Default

I just got 225/50R16 R-S2's put on my stock wheels this morning. My next autocross event is August 13th. I'm not sure how much information I'll be able to get since the event is in the dark, I've upgraded the front sway bar since my last autocross, and the only tires I can compare these to are the OEM RE92's that I wore out.

Last edited by PossumK; 08-04-2005 at 02:26 PM. Reason: semantics
PossumK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2005, 02:39 PM   #8
speednby
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 86316
Join Date: May 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: South Jersey
Vehicle:
2003 WRX Wagon
I eat rice...Its good 4 u

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PossumK
I just got 225/50R16 R-S2's put on my stock wheels this morning. My next autocross event is August 13th. I'm not sure how much information I'll be able to get since the event is in the dark, I've upgraded the front sway bar since my last autocross, and the only tires I can compare these to are the OEM RE92's that I wore out.

Cool!! Sounds like you are on the same path as me. I just ordered my new front sway bar and end links (Perrin). My next autox is Aug. 14th. I won't have tires by then, but I hope to have the front bar in. How do the tires look? Are the sidewalls bulging? Got good clearance all around? Maybe if it's not too much hassle for you, could you repost here after your Aug. 13th run and give us a report??

Last edited by speednby; 08-04-2005 at 02:40 PM. Reason: Punctuation
speednby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2005, 02:53 PM   #9
PossumK
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 53548
Join Date: Jan 2004
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Vehicle:
2004 WRX PSM (sold)
2007 S2000

Default

Quote:
Are the sidewalls bulging? Got good clearance all around? Maybe if it's not too much hassle for you, could you repost here after your Aug. 13th run and give us a report??
The sidewalls are definitely bulging a bit. I've seen pictures of various other 225/50-16 tires mounted on the stock wheels, and these look similar.

Hopefully I'll be able to notice the difference in tire grip. The front sway bar will probably mess up the comparison of turn-in response and handling in sweepers, since I already noticed a big difference with just the bar on RE92's in normal driving.
PossumK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2005, 03:05 PM   #10
jweiss
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 31636
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Park City, UT
Vehicle:
2005 STi & '82 911
CGM & rosewood

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PossumK
My next autocross event is August 13th. I'm not sure how much information I'll be able to get since the event is in the dark
Well that will certainly be a very challenging autox.
jweiss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2005, 03:25 PM   #11
PossumK
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 53548
Join Date: Jan 2004
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Vehicle:
2004 WRX PSM (sold)
2007 S2000

Default

PM "Student Driver" for an opinion. I just saw in a search that he has the same tires on stock wheels and has already autocrossed with them.

Quote:
Well that will certainly be a very challenging autox.
I haven't been to one of these yet, but it looks like there's 1-2 very bright lights over the parking lot. Here are some pictures from last year's event: http://public.fotki.com/makofoto/solo_ii/notld/
PossumK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2005, 04:49 PM   #12
Uncle Scotty
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:
OK Houston
we have an Uncle

Default

....the Z212 is available in a 215/45-16 AND a 225/45-16 as well......either of those would be a bit better than the 225/50 as far as the sidewall is concerned......the diameter difference isn't too bad.

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalcold.html
Uncle Scotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2005, 08:37 AM   #13
speednby
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 86316
Join Date: May 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: South Jersey
Vehicle:
2003 WRX Wagon
I eat rice...Its good 4 u

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by possumk
I took some pictures of the tires on my wheels earlier this evening.
Thanks!! That doesn't look like they are bulging too bad. It will be interesting to see how you do on the 13th. Keep us posted!
speednby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2005, 06:54 AM   #14
PossumK
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 53548
Join Date: Jan 2004
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
Vehicle:
2004 WRX PSM (sold)
2007 S2000

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by speednby
Thanks!! That doesn't look like they are bulging too bad. It will be interesting to see how you do on the 13th. Keep us posted!
I just got back from the autocross. Even though this is almost a meaningless comparison, these tires have a ton of grip compared to the RE92's. I was taking fast sweepers and turns where I'd usually have the car twitching and/or sliding at the exits, but I had almost none of that tonight. I'll have to attribute some of the difference to the front sway bar though. I ended up second in my class (several stock classes together, with street tire restriction).

I ran the pressures at 45 psi front, 44 psi rear. This course was 10 seconds shorter than our usual local championship courses, and it was a cool night at ~61F, so the pressures barely increased 1 psi. There was no rollover onto the shoulders or even past the curve where the contact with the ground ends.

Strangely, at street pressures (~40 front, ~38 rear), I can hear a flabby sound once in a while when I go over bumps.

EDIT: Flappy noise was from the front swaybar clunking.

Last edited by PossumK; 08-27-2005 at 07:45 PM.
PossumK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2005, 09:01 AM   #15
bhamwrxman
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 43111
Join Date: Sep 2003
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Birmingham, AL
Vehicle:
2008 Impreza 2.5i
Silver

Default

I have run the 225/45/16's for 2 auto-x's now. Before I had Azenis Sports in 215/45/16. The new Hankook's run circles around the Azenis Sports hands down. With the girth of the WRX on a narrow tire, the Azenis got very greasy when they got a little warmth in them. Hankooks on the other hand love the heat. The hotter I get them, the better they are.

The Hankooks are wearing fairly well considering at the last 2 Auto-x's here in Birmingham we got 8 runs each. I see tread at 60-70%

For the money, Hankook is the way to go.
bhamwrxman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2005, 11:09 AM   #16
element533
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 37575
Join Date: May 2003
Location: San Francisco, CA
Vehicle:
2012 WRX Std 4D
Blue

Default

I just picked up a set of Hankooks and my initial opinion is that they are squishy and vague. Is upping the pressure going to fix that?
element533 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2005, 12:10 PM   #17
Uncle Scotty
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:
OK Houston
we have an Uncle

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by element533
I just picked up a set of Hankooks and my initial opinion is that they are squishy and vague. Is upping the pressure going to fix that?


I have my 235/40-17's at 42F/39R and may go up another psi or 2.....they get better as they wear in a bit.....the first couple hunderd miles is usually like that, anyway, 'cuz the mold release agent is wearing off the tires.
Uncle Scotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2005, 05:26 PM   #18
HerculesPeanut
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 35421
Join Date: Apr 2003
Vehicle:
2003 WRX
W R Blue

Default

So how are they in the rain?
HerculesPeanut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2005, 10:09 PM   #19
Uncle Scotty
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 16200
Join Date: Mar 2002
Vehicle:
OK Houston
we have an Uncle

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HerculesPeanut
So how are they in the rain?



....great so far....drove back from Daytona in the pouring rain at 80+ and they brake well, wet, too....
Uncle Scotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2005, 10:27 PM   #20
HerculesPeanut
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 35421
Join Date: Apr 2003
Vehicle:
2003 WRX
W R Blue

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Scotty
....great so far....drove back from Daytona in the pouring rain at 80+ and they brake well, wet, too....
Have you ever driven the GSD3s? Anyone know how they compare?
HerculesPeanut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2005, 05:27 PM   #21
enewtabie
Scooby Guru
 
Member#: 18928
Join Date: May 2002
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Butner,Stem NC
Vehicle:
2002 jdm wrx v7/v8
inter/w Spec C roof vent

Default

Nice..I need to get a new summer tire..It's a 200 treadwear..jeez/
enewtabie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2005, 06:08 PM   #22
jdevee1
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 64802
Join Date: Jun 2004
Default

Crap! I'm at the tire shop.

They mounted the new tires and I went out to look at them. They put the HR2 on there instead of the RS2 like I asked for.

They've never heard of the RS2/Z212 and neither has their distributor. They're putting my 3 RE92s back on there and my doughnut spare.

I should have just ordered them from DiscountTire since the shipping is free anyway. Now I won't have tires until next week at the earliest.
jdevee1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2005, 06:44 PM   #23
jdevee1
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 64802
Join Date: Jun 2004
Default

OK, it just got worse!

They scratched the crap out of every wheel accept the one that was already scratched! Not little, incidental, scratches that occur when working on a wheel but large 1/8" wide x 1-2" long scratches through the paint to bare metal.

I said something about it but they said the manager was gone for the day and I'd need to come back tommorow.

Hopefully they'll be paying for either refinishing or replacement wheels after I talk to the manager.
jdevee1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2005, 10:40 PM   #24
express_wagon
Scooby Specialist
 
Member#: 68346
Join Date: Aug 2004
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Vehicle:
1996 LC
2014 JK

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdevee1
OK, it just got worse!

They scratched the crap out of every wheel accept the one that was already scratched! Not little, incidental, scratches that occur when working on a wheel but large 1/8" wide x 1-2" long scratches through the paint to bare metal.

I said something about it but they said the manager was gone for the day and I'd need to come back tommorow.

Hopefully they'll be paying for either refinishing or replacement wheels after I talk to the manager.

you really need to do more research when having somebody else handle your car man...i got my tires within 4 business days from tires.com

they even include new valve stems if you ask them nicely over the phone.
express_wagon is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2005, 10:54 PM   #25
jdevee1
Scooby Newbie
 
Member#: 64802
Join Date: Jun 2004
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by express_wagon
you really need to do more research when having somebody else handle your car man...i got my tires within 4 business days from tires.com

they even include new valve stems if you ask them nicely over the phone.

Yeah, I'm usually a huge stickler about that but my wife has been in the hospital all week, I had a blow-out on the interstate, the shop was close by and claimed to be able to get the tires the next day. Anyway, I needed them quick and with minimum hassle (i.e. having to wait for the UPS man at the house, etc.)

I should have just ordered them from discount tire like I had originally planned and had them put on at the normal tire shop that I've had good experiences with but what can you do?

Hopefuly I'll talk to the manager tommorow and everything wil be taken care of. Otherwise I'll just report them to the BBB and get on with my life.
jdevee1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Initial Impressions: Rota Tarmac II's with Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212 Paradenu Car Part Reviews 0 05-11-2006 07:58 PM
Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212 vs. Good Year Eagle F1 GS D3 Pete Holt Tire & Wheel 13 03-12-2006 09:20 AM
HANKOOK VENTUS R-S2 Z212 VS AZenis RT-215 SeattleWRX Tire & Wheel 3 07-13-2005 08:43 AM
should i get Hankook Ventus R-S2 or Falken Azeins sport RT215 Dark Tire & Wheel 4 06-11-2005 11:29 AM
Falken GRB FK451 or Hankook Ventus R-S2? ommmjido Tire & Wheel 10 04-12-2005 08:25 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:16 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2014 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2014, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.