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Old 09-19-2005, 07:13 AM   #1
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Default Best tire for winter driving/winter rallycross/ice racing...

Just wondering what the best option is. Car is a '93 Impreza 2.5. I won't be doing enough winter racing to justify a set of dedicated race tires, so I'd like something that I could just drive to the race and back. I live in Maine, so we normally have pretty messy winters. I work second shift, and often when I get out of work, the roads haven't even been plowed yet. I put about 13k a year on my car, so wear is an issue.
I would be mounting these on a set of steelies that I have yet to locate. i was thinking probably 15"s, as that is what I'll have my rally tires on.
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Old 09-19-2005, 09:35 AM   #2
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Try the Nokian NRW? (its a winter capable all season) That will help with your daily drive.

IF you feel that you need REAL winter performance you might want to look at the Blizzak WS-50, The Nokian RSi is their new snow based tire.

Here are some links:
http://www.nokiantires.com/newsite/t...fm?cid=1&sid=1
http://www.bridgestonetire.com/tires...r/index_bs.asp

There is also a snow tire thread at the top of this fourm.
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:16 AM   #3
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The Nokain NRW has been replaced by the WR. The WR is an excellent winter tire for highway and city driving. Like the old NRW, it's actually an all-season, but it's better than a lot of true winter tires. I don't really know anything about the RSI, but if you want a great snow tire for the deeper unplowed roads, the Nokian Hakka2 is currently one of the best you can get. You can get the studded or not. I have non-studded Hakka2's and they give you great traction on everything but the slickest ice and they give you very predicitable handling.

If ice is more of a problem than snow I've heard Green Diamond tires are good, but I've never actually used them.
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Old 09-19-2005, 11:32 AM   #4
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If ice is more of a problem than snow I've heard Green Diamond tires are good, but I've never actually used them.
I've never used them, but I've heard good things about Green Diamonds.

At our local ice races, they were dsq'd from the snow tire classes, because they perform more like a studded tire than a regular snow tire.
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Old 09-20-2005, 06:21 AM   #5
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Okay, who retails them?
Green diamond and Hakka's
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Old 09-20-2005, 09:15 AM   #6
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Old 09-20-2005, 01:38 PM   #7
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and then what would you do with all your spare time?
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Old 09-20-2005, 03:30 PM   #8
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Old 09-21-2005, 02:45 PM   #9
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what do you guys think of Hankook winters? I've only had personal experience with the Nokian brand, so I'm wondering if the price difference has any basis in performance difference..
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Old 09-22-2005, 01:30 PM   #10
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Wink Goodyear Assurance Triple-tred

Hi all,
looking for winter tires? try searching Tire rack for Goodyear Assurance triple tred tires. Not spec'd as a performance tire, but it reviewed well for snow, comparing it to the Nokian brand.
Slightly OT on this tire; I wrote a review in the "review forum". I've not driven in the snow on these tires. In fact, I am still in my 30-day review period. Goodyear will exchange them within 30 dyas of purchase. I was on Bridgestone Re-950s which are great in the wet, and dry, but only marginal in snow (thanks for AWD!). I am also looking at the new Bridgestone Potenza G009 tire; rated well for snow. But I am leaning on keeping the Goodyears:
*80,000 tire (versus 40k for '950, and 50k for the G009)
*has extremely quick resonse to steering input (as quick, or quicker than the '950)
*rated very high for all season snow (though again, not rated as a high performace all- season tire))
*dry grip levels are very close to '950s, wet grip is equal if not superior.
*quieter and smoother ride versus the '950, but a bit more sidewall flex, even at 40psi (and the car rotates so nicely aound street corners too! - but I want 22mm front and rear rear bars to help tame the leaning a little)
*braking is great too (running 225x50x16-H) again, very very close to the '950
*saved $$ over replacing my 950s with same.

So, just a small penalty for dry grip that I can live and have fun with (for a tire rated several levels below the "high performance all season" Bridgestone Potenza RE-950. I really mean it about the steering response. I have the rev-lab 11.5:1 quick rack, and these tires can keep up, but they need the larger bars to offset their sensitivity to to the car leaning too much.
Phew!!!
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Old 09-22-2005, 02:00 PM   #11
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The problem with comparing winter tires is there are relatively few models (compared to summer and all-season tires) and they vary vastly in what they do. Some are good on snow, some on ice, and some on pavement. You really have to look at all the different models and pick one that matches your location, needs and driving style best. Cost, longevity and availability are also factors. I've heard many people like the way the Blizzaks WS-50's perform but then they complain they only last one or two seasons. Many people may be happy with a bargain-basement priced no-name winter tire.

I chose Nokian Hakka2's because I do a lot of winter driving on snow covered back roads. For that they are probably the best tire available.

This website "compares" snow tires:
http://www.snowtire.info/TireReviews...%2015)|outline

Their tests are NOT scentific nor are they even true comparisons because they test different tires on different cars, some RWD some AWD, so ignore their ranking completely, but it does give you a good description at the end of what tire is good for what situation.

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