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Old 02-03-2006, 05:28 PM   #1
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Ok so i just ordered some 17 x 7.5 rota subzeros for my wagon with 215/45/17 tires. I know 225 give more grip but with a wagon i know it might rub. Will 215's be good enough. I'm not planning on autocrossing or tacking my car. i really wanted 225's but I went with 215's so i dont rub. I just hope I like them. Anybody running 215's and find them to be pretty good. thanks.
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Old 02-03-2006, 05:35 PM   #2
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The 215's are gonna be stretched on that rim, so don't expect any rim protection and the ride might be a touch stiffer as well. Otherwise 10mm isn't going to make or break your street performance. Careful not to curb rash them!
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Old 02-03-2006, 05:38 PM   #3
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agreed, I would at the Minimum go 225.
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Old 02-03-2006, 06:20 PM   #4
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but i will rub when i put my lowering springs on
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Old 02-03-2006, 06:46 PM   #5
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bump bump bump
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Old 02-03-2006, 07:11 PM   #6
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i'm running a fairly aggressive setup: 225/40-18 on 18x7.5 +48 offset, lowered on tein s-techs. so far i've only rubbed twice in 10,000 miles (both times with a full load in a hard banked on-ramp.) i just picked up a set of 17x7.5 gram lights and plan to run 225/45-17 hankook rs2 for track and auto-x
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Old 02-03-2006, 07:24 PM   #7
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I run 215/45/17 on my 17x7.5 Rota SDR's on my sedan and I love it. I didn't want to go up to 225's because of the bigger overall diameter. I don't know about yours but my 215 tires are rated to be safe on rims from 6.5-8.0 width, most are. That 1/2" width increase is not going to make the 215 tire stretch noticibly, but I think on the wagon that 225's might rub the rear fender unless you fix it. Here's an article on Subydude about it http://www.subydude.com/mods/detailsdoc.php?3055
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Old 02-03-2006, 07:31 PM   #8
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215's are fine on a 7.5 inch rim. If you are worried about rubbing then get ther 215.
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Old 02-03-2006, 07:56 PM   #9
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Got Kosei K1 16x7.5 [front] and 16x8.5 [rear] on my old '93 MR2 turbo with 205/45-16 and 225/45-16 Yokohama AVS ES100's...ride is firm but turn in and steering response are insane...so 215's on a 7.5" rim is way cool...had this setup on the Toyota for 5 years with no curb rash...just don't drive alongside curbs and you will be OK!
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Old 02-03-2006, 11:54 PM   #10
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I'm running 215s on my 17X7.5 SSRs and am very happy.

One advantage was that I saved 3lbs per tire going 215 over 225. Having a little more gear in my WRX doesn't hurt either but the difference is so small I really can't imagine being able to tell.
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Old 02-04-2006, 03:21 AM   #11
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ok cool. i can always run 225's next time. I'm just running 225's now on a heavy 18 x 7.5 wheel so i wanted to know how different it will feel going to a 17 x 7.5 3lb lighter wheel with 215's.
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Old 02-04-2006, 04:35 AM   #12
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so how you guys think royal gunmetal subzeros with a polished lip will look on a psm wagon?
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Old 02-04-2006, 09:12 AM   #13
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i had BFG KDW2 215/45-17's on my SubZero's (sold them today). no streching BS like stated above. also no rubbing when lowered, except for when i went with 0 camber in the rear & had 2 passengers.

here are pics of my wagon lowered on TEIN H-techs:





and a close up:

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Old 02-04-2006, 01:20 PM   #14
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i had BFG KDW2 215/45-17's on my SubZero's (sold them today). no streching BS like stated above. also no rubbing when lowered, except for when i went with 0 toe in the rear & had 2 passengers.
Toe wouldn't have much effect at all on rubbing... don't you mean camber?
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Old 02-04-2006, 05:07 PM   #15
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Toe wouldn't have much effect at all on rubbing... don't you mean camber?

oops, yep camber.
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Old 02-04-2006, 05:29 PM   #16
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Quack- where did you buy your front and rear lights. I want my wagon like that.
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Old 02-04-2006, 01:32 PM   #17
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The 215's are a fine choice - Quacks look pretty much perfect, IMHO. I had a similar conundrum on my Miata: I originally had 205's on my 7" rims, but switched to 195's and I like the look a lot better now and haven't noticed any grip loss. Bigger is not necessarily better for everyone.
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Old 02-04-2006, 03:36 PM   #18
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no streching BS like stated above
Well I'll stand corrected. Those look about the same as my 215/45 Falkens on the stocker 6.5" rim. Obviously tire brand matters, but Falkens are usaully known to be wide. You have a 1" wider rim and they still look the same. Interesting. Here are 225's on an 8" rim, which both are about 1/2" bigger than a 215 on a 7.5" and you can see it's clearly stretched:
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Old 02-04-2006, 04:22 PM   #19
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ill be using 215/45/17 kumho ecsta mx's on the 7.5 wheel. how is this tire for srectching and all that good stuff.
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Old 02-04-2006, 05:31 PM   #20
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which lights? the bulbs? from AutoZone.


the actual assembly are modded. & painted.
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Old 02-04-2006, 06:44 PM   #21
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How do u make them clear, what do i need to get?
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Old 02-04-2006, 07:01 PM   #22
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^^^^^

Search 'cleared headlights'

It's a do it youself job and involves removing your headlight assemblies and cooking them in the oven to get them to a nice tasty flavor.
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Old 02-04-2006, 07:03 PM   #23
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^^^ what he said. the rears are just stock
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