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Old 02-04-2006, 08:56 PM   #1
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They claim they reduce the friction to 0.01. I keep hearing ads for Motor Silk (formulated by the government, and used in their vehicles, etc.). Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on it.

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Motor Silk" 80% reduction of friction / 90% reduction in wear.
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"However. Motor Silk™, (aka Motorsilk™) with Boron CLS Bond™ is not an oil additive; rather, this advanced technology - developed at the Department of Energy at Argonne National Laboratories - creates a permanent Crystal Lattice Structure on all metal surfaces - 85% the hardness of a diamond - virtually eliminating friction and wear in fluid systems."
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The invention is:

Lubrication from mixture of boric acid with oils and greases


Abstract
Lubricating compositions including crystalline boric acid and a base lubricant selected from oils, greases and the like. The lubricity of conventional oils and greases can also be improved by adding concentrates of boric acid.
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• Reducing Friction and Heat
• Reducing Wear and Failure
• Reducing Corrosion
• Reducing Maintenance
Here some of certificates of the product.

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The only product that has API certificate in the world on its field(I dont know what the field of this product)
The only product that has EPA certificate in the world on its field
The only product that has ABS certificate.
Here is the website:
http://www.evergreenamerica.com
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Old 02-04-2006, 08:59 PM   #2
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it's not an oil additive, you just add it your oil huh?

Synthetic oil FTW, stay away from crap like this.
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Old 02-04-2006, 09:13 PM   #3
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crap? I have never added any additives any of my car. just adding more quotations.

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Increase Power by as much as 20% - with just one bottle of Motor Silk!
PROVEN!

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Chrysler, Ford and Dodge, in a MATTER OF FACT the Dodge racing team uses Motor Silk for three years now as does many NASCAR teams.

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Old 02-04-2006, 10:03 PM   #4
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You do not need this or any other oil additive. Just do regular oil changes with the proper grade and viscosity for your car.
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Old 02-04-2006, 11:07 PM   #5
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That is the key and only UOA will tell you if your oil is working. It took me 8 months and 3 diferent oils before I found one that actually works well in my motor.

[IMG]Chrysler, Ford and Dodge, in a MATTER OF FACT the Dodge racing team uses Motor Silk for three years now as does many NASCAR teams.[/IMG]

I believe this to be a blatant lie. Valvoline SynPower does smooth out the motor and quiet your valves and is the only aditive I would use. That said in my car M1 T&SUV works better actually with no additives.

Good lcuk!
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Old 02-04-2006, 11:36 PM   #6
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This is a pretty nooB post, regardless of your number.

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Originally Posted by 555
They claim they reduce the friction to 0.01. I keep hearing ads for Motor Silk (formulated by the government, and used in their vehicles, etc.). Just wondering if anyone has any ideas on it.





US Patent info





Here some of certificates of the product.



Here is the website:
http://www.evergreenamerica.com


Read this plz FTW.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=499177
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Old 02-05-2006, 02:44 AM   #7
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Boron is already present in a lot of good oils that you can get off the shelf. While I think the claims made on that site are a bit misleading (90% reduction in wear over what??) it doesn't mean that the technology doesn't work. I know that Boron transmission treatments have actually proven to be quite good in certain cars. The technology itself isn't new and shouldn't be dismissed as quickly as it has been in this thread.

What's interesting is that the claims made on that website are similar/identical to the ones made on this website advertising a similar product. There must be some central study they are basing the claims off of that I'm too lazy to dig around for... http://www.luboron.com

Good read on the topic here:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...c;f=4;t=000177

Check out the link in the above page to the RT Vanderbilt site for some more info and testing done on borate esters and their anti-wear properties...

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Old 02-05-2006, 04:29 AM   #8
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Oil additives of ANY type are junk.

You a member of www.subamaniacs.gr ? Don't know if you speak Greek or not, but that's your local forum if you didn't know about it. Someone on there will soon be translating all my FAQs into Greek for you folks.
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Old 02-05-2006, 07:16 AM   #9
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I'm just trying to be open minded Unbomber. I have read most of your FAQs but it doesnt mean that we all should keep away from any products like that because you write a FAQ about it. I also dont belive that Motor Silk reduces %80 friction because they write it on their site. This is a forum to discuss the things and I'm not prejudice as you do


A good word for you if you read the evergreenamerica.com =)

"All things be ready if our minds be so"
Albert Einstein

ps: I'm not Greek.
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Old 02-09-2006, 12:42 PM   #10
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Go check out the forums over at BITOG and do some searches over there. I'm sure someone has already sent this stuff off to the lab to get an analysis of it done.
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