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Old 02-10-2006, 06:58 PM   #1
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Two Milwaukee dealers claim they were able to purchase new Tribeca's from Subaru that were classified as "Wind damaged" by Subaru. Does anyone have any information about this. What kind of discount did dealers get on these vehicles? The rumor is paint is no longer warrantied.

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Old 02-10-2006, 07:28 PM   #2
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What exactly is wind damage? Damage from debris?
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Old 02-10-2006, 07:33 PM   #3
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My guess is that (assuming the rumor to be true) something related to wind/elemets happend to the paint. I'm not an expert, but my guess is that the cars were exposed to the elements before it was time (paint wasn't dry, or they missed a layer of clear coat or something like that. Again, I'm no expert, but that's my guess. I think if it was struck my debris they would just say damaged, unless they just tell the customers that since it (wind damaged) sounds better than just damaged.
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Old 02-10-2006, 08:43 PM   #4
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Interesting. Not too sure if I would buy a car with paint issues though.
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Old 02-15-2006, 02:32 PM   #5
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Interesting. Not too sure if I would buy a car with paint issues though.
you already have
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Old 03-13-2006, 02:19 PM   #6
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Old 03-13-2006, 02:19 PM   #7
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Heh, yeah, you're right about that!
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Old 03-15-2006, 09:48 PM   #8
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Default Is the dealer supposed to disclose a vehicle to be "Wind Damaged"?

Hello all,

New to this forum. Just leased a Tribeca off the local dealership - Mahagony Red in Color - great interior, great performance, great utility etc. etc. the front end does make people look around, but all in all am very satisfied with the vehicle..

My other 2 cars are a Mercedes M Class SUV and a Nissan Maxima sedan, was really looking for something AWD between the two, and this crossover was perfect. Will post some pictures, once the weather here in N. Cal clears up and I can wash my car nice and clean!

After reading this thread, I am almost thinking of going back to the dealership and asking if the car I have leased is "Wind Damaged" and if yes, if I can negotiate any discount on it..

Is the dealership supposed to disclose a car as "Wind Damaged" in the lease/purchase agreement?
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Old 03-16-2006, 02:47 AM   #9
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Hello all,

New to this forum. Just leased a Tribeca off the local dealership - Mahagony Red in Color - great interior, great performance, great utility etc. etc. the front end does make people look around, but all in all am very satisfied with the vehicle..

My other 2 cars are a Mercedes M Class SUV and a Nissan Maxima sedan, was really looking for something AWD between the two, and this crossover was perfect. Will post some pictures, once the weather here in N. Cal clears up and I can wash my car nice and clean!

After reading this thread, I am almost thinking of going back to the dealership and asking if the car I have leased is "Wind Damaged" and if yes, if I can negotiate any discount on it..

Is the dealership supposed to disclose a car as "Wind Damaged" in the lease/purchase agreement?
Congrats on the new Tribeca. Yes a wind damaged vehicle should be disclosed. And secondly... it would not be a "new" car as SOA would have sold it to the dealership and would be classified as a used car. If your car was bought as new...it's beyond the possibility of being a wind damaged vehicle.
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Old 02-12-2006, 02:25 AM   #10
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Strong winds hit lafayette, Indiana in 2005 damaging some of the Subarus at the plant... a lot of them Tribecas. Damage ranged from minor to some vehicles being totalled. The ones being sold as wind damaged are basically new cars with nothing to worry about.
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Old 03-13-2006, 11:56 AM   #11
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Wind damage is really nothing as serious as it sounds. Most of the time dealer reps and managers don't know how to explain this but since I consider myself a little bit more advanced of a salesperson here is my understanding. Wind damage the majority of the time means that the glass is pitted. In other words say you are driving on the highway one day and a little stone comes up and has ever chipped your windshield ever so slightly. This is pitted glass and yes you can see this with the naked eye but have to really look closely. The paint on the cars if damaged are obviously taken care of... what dealer is going to put a car on their lot that has paint damage? Ours wouldn't. Now to the main discussion, MONEY! Dealers receive money for taking these vehicles. Extra money that is to be passed down to the consumer. 9 times out of 10 the exact amount of this extra cash isn't disclosed to the customer. It can be anywhere from a couple of hundred to a couple of thousand dollars. I'd say most of the time with my experience its anywhere around 1000 to 2000 dollars. Dealers will try to hold this money back and keep as much of it as they can to increase the dealer gross on the front end. The way I would go about it if considering purchasing a wind damaged vehicle is do a thorough inspection of the exterior of the car. The engine definitely and interior should have nothing to do with the wind damage. Then if its an honest dealer they should discount the car very heavily. MOST DEFINITELY UNDER INVOICE AFTER THE WIND DAMAGE DISCOUNT. If you have any questions post on here or PM me, the reason I know this much is because I work at a Subaru store in central NJ.
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Old 03-16-2006, 10:37 AM   #12
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Default I got this tribeca brand new...

It isn't classified as used on the lease agreement...I guess, I'll still ask the dealer about the possibility of this being wind damaged...you know how the dealers are, at hiding stuff that they should be disclosing upfront at the time of sale...you never know...
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Old 03-16-2006, 11:55 AM   #13
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It isn't classified as used on the lease agreement...I guess, I'll still ask the dealer about the possibility of this being wind damaged...you know how the dealers are, at hiding stuff that they should be disclosing upfront at the time of sale...you never know...
That works or I can check from your VIN.
*btw... most dealers did not recieve wind damaged cars. They had to actually go to SOA and buy them as used cars from SOA. Most dealers wouldn't be bothered with the process.
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Old 03-16-2006, 06:29 PM   #14
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That works or I can check from your VIN.
*btw... most dealers did not recieve wind damaged cars. They had to actually go to SOA and buy them as used cars from SOA. Most dealers wouldn't be bothered with the process.
I agree! Most of these cars are considered used which will have a huge effect on leases. You'll probably end up being able to lease a new one with no damage since the residual won't take the hit of being a used car.

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Old 03-17-2006, 07:22 PM   #15
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The smaller dealers that make their money selling used more than new will most likley be the first ones to buy wind damaged cars. It offers most people who can't otherwise afford a fully loaded $30k car the chance to get it a good amount below invoice. You do have to sign paperwork disclosing the wind damage and, I think, waive your paint warranty coverage.
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Old 03-18-2006, 12:54 AM   #16
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Default SoDealer, can you check my VIN?

4S4WX86C864406594

Can you tell me, if it is classified as Wind Damaged?
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Old 03-18-2006, 04:46 PM   #17
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4S4WX86C864406594

Can you tell me, if it is classified as Wind Damaged?
Dealer traded from Carlsen to Autowest and sold to you. Clean bill of health. No worries
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Old 03-19-2006, 03:53 PM   #18
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Hey wanna tell me where my WRX is?? I traded it for a Tribeca...now I really miss it.
JF1GD29662G525098

I just hope it has a good home.
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Old 03-20-2006, 05:10 PM   #19
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Hey wanna tell me where my WRX is?? I traded it for a Tribeca...now I really miss it.
JF1GD29662G525098

I just hope it has a good home.
abuse of the system... haha... paid a visit to jack miller today... all seems fine... it's a long way from it's original home.
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Old 04-14-2006, 02:27 PM   #20
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no me gusta wind
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