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Old 10-30-2006, 06:36 PM   #126
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...lets keep the thread on topic, here....
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Old 10-31-2006, 02:51 AM   #127
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Thx for the pics Chris04. I think the drop is perfect (at least for me). I dont really want anything too low and since the springs are matched to the strut by tokico, I think I should go with the spring/strut combo.
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:04 AM   #128
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Thx for the pics Chris04. I think the drop is perfect (at least for me). I dont really want anything too low and since the springs are matched to the strut by tokico, I think I should go with the spring/strut combo.
The above is an exxample of faulty logic.
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Old 10-31-2006, 02:03 PM   #129
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Well, I've jumped in and ordered some Tokico's and USDM Pinks for my wagon. I haven't seen too many people trying Tokico's on wagons, so this is a bit of a gamble. They SHOULD work (other than the slight loss of negative camber), but we'll see. I'll report back in about a week.
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:35 PM   #130
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so this kit is fairly exciting! i just stumbled upon this, and tried calling today but they are out at sema for the whole week.

with this set though, you need to buy the 02/03 rear tophats right? some sites mention this and some dont.
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Old 10-31-2006, 03:39 PM   #131
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with this set though, you need to buy the 02/03 rear tophats right? some sites mention this and some dont.
Depends on what springs you run. If you use 02/03 springs, you use 02/03 tophats and it's PnP. If you use 04+ springs, you need 04+ tophats, plus use the "washer mod" or the Scooby921 spacer. I bought a set of spacers for when I get the D-Specs.

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Old 10-31-2006, 03:47 PM   #132
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Depends on what springs you run. If you use 02/03 springs, you use 02/03 tophats and it's PnP. If you use 04+ springs, you need 04+ tophats, plus use the "washer mod" or the Scooby921 spacer. I bought a set of spacers for when I get the D-Specs.

gotcha. but if i just buy that kit 'as is' then it just is PnP? sweet
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Old 10-31-2006, 04:57 PM   #133
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Thx for the pics Chris04. I think the drop is perfect (at least for me). I dont really want anything too low and since the springs are matched to the strut by tokico, I think I should go with the spring/strut combo.
The above is an exxample of faulty logic.
Explain please. The above is an example of hitting the x key one to many times.
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Old 10-31-2006, 07:44 PM   #134
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Explain please. The above is an example of hitting the x key one to many times.
....how the hell would they know what rate spring you want to use and if you want linear or non-liner rate springs, and of what length????

Ths supplied springs are a compromise.....
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Old 11-01-2006, 01:22 AM   #135
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To reiterate my earlier post. These struts have such a wide range of adjustment they can be at home on a range of springs. Personally I find the 4.5-5 turns from full firm setting to be most complimentary to the springs that come with the kit. I would wager that if you went to a spring in Pinks/RCE range then somewhere in 3TFF range might suit the struts better. That is conjecture on my part as I have not tried any of those springs. Additionally this is all with daily driving in mind.
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Old 11-01-2006, 02:40 AM   #136
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....how the hell would they know what rate spring you want to use and if you want linear or non-liner rate springs, and of what length????

Ths supplied springs are a compromise.....
Tokico doesn't give a rate for the springs in the kit? Could the same be said for the typical coilover? I'm confused. I'm want help choosing a better spring for my Tokicos. I'm still considering the Tanabes GFs for their rates.
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Old 11-01-2006, 02:52 AM   #137
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Tokico doesn't give a rate for the springs in the kit? Could the same be said for the typical coilover? I'm confused. I'm want help choosing a better spring for my Tokicos. I'm still considering the Tanabes GFs for their rates.
I have RSR down's(#216) in front and eibach's(#160) in back....and they are too soft, IMO.

I have a set of v8 JDM spec c springs(thanks Myles ) that should be just about right for the street....IIRC the rates for them are 257/217...and should have a frinedly drop
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Old 11-01-2006, 03:15 AM   #138
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....how the hell would they know what rate spring you want to use and if you want linear or non-liner rate springs, and of what length????
Come on, Scotty, you know that all OEM replacement springs are progressive, right?
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Ths supplied springs are a compromise.....
Aren't all springs a compromise? Wouldn't the fact that the struts are adjustable let you adjust for most OEM replacement springs, not to mention the springs they supply with the D-spec kit?

Wouldn't Tokico know their damper rates best and choose an spring which provides a decent compromise of ride height, suspension travel, damping, etc?

I really fail to see your point here, Scotty, I'm having trouble reading in between all of your punctuation marks.
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:00 AM   #139
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Come on, Scotty, you know that all OEM replacement springs are progressive, right?

Aren't all springs a compromise? Wouldn't the fact that the struts are adjustable let you adjust for most OEM replacement springs, not to mention the springs they supply with the D-spec kit?

Wouldn't Tokico know their damper rates best and choose an spring which provides a decent compromise of ride height, suspension travel, damping, etc?

I really fail to see your point here, Scotty, I'm having trouble reading in between all of your punctuation marks.

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Old 11-01-2006, 07:15 AM   #140
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Hey guys! Wondering if I could use my stock sti springs with the D-specs? I want the same ride height but the clunking is KILLING me from the stock rear struts lol. I am not a racer or anything . Thanks!
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Old 11-01-2006, 09:16 AM   #141
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Hey guys! Wondering if I could use my stock sti springs with the D-specs? I want the same ride height but the clunking is KILLING me from the stock rear struts lol. I am not a racer or anything . Thanks!
Yes you can use your stock sti springs, but you would need to do the washer mod.
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Old 11-01-2006, 11:29 AM   #142
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Searched this thread but can't find the washer mod. What exactly is it?
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Old 11-01-2006, 11:34 AM   #143
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Searched this thread but can't find the washer mod. What exactly is it?
Here is a link to the washer mod:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=877041

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I just got these strut spacers made of hardened steel and coated from NASIOC member here: Scooby921. I thought I'd buy them in case I needed them when I decide which suspension to go with.

Here's a link with more info on them: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=971805

Pictures below show how it fits on a set of donor 2003 WRX struts I will be cutting and powder coating for someone wanting to do Koni inserts.

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Stock 2003 struts (no spacer)



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Old 11-01-2006, 11:42 AM   #144
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Come on, Scotty, you know that all OEM replacement springs are progressive, right?
Aren't all springs a compromise? Wouldn't the fact that the struts are adjustable let you adjust for most OEM replacement springs, not to mention the springs they supply with the D-spec kit?

Wouldn't Tokico know their damper rates best and choose an spring which provides a decent compromise of ride height, suspension travel, damping, etc?

I really fail to see your point here, Scotty, I'm having trouble reading in between all of your punctuation marks.
Good points made, drees.

And Uncle Scotty: I don't get why you feel you must always be a prick. You've got good knowledge and folks do want your advice but it gets a little tiring reading your prickish rants, that less often now, offer very little value. You had an excellent, thorough write up of the Tokicos and was a definitely a factor for me going with them. I've even done your hex wrench mod for the rear seat which works awesome. But for each good piece of advice you give, you offer a slew of worthless, patronizing and condescending comments. I understand you've been around this place for a long time and you know Subarus and if you are really that sick of all the newbish discussion
on this board, why do you even bother reading it, little alone posting an avg of 16 post/day?

Now, my Tein H Tech's are rated at 229F/196R. I don't think I'd even benefit going to the Tanabe's GFs (#TGF092) which are 240F/224R. Which spring would be higher in rate?
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Cool!!!!Thanks so much for the pics!
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Old 11-01-2006, 01:28 PM   #146
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I also got the Scooby921 spacers. They are nice. I feel much better about using those spacers than a couple of Ace Hardware washers.
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Old 11-01-2006, 01:40 PM   #147
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Before I got my Scooby921 spacer, I actually went to OSH and got a packet of 6-hardened washers for 99-cents (still have them at home in my parts bin). But after seeing his spacer, I thought that was a much cleaner and elegant solution.
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Old 11-01-2006, 02:41 PM   #148
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Had a chance today to grab a couple of quick pics. The side skirts are in my house getting ready to be painted.

Tokico D-specs DSK518 strut/spring kit
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Hey Chris, any chance you could do some hub to fender measurements front and rear? It looks like ~14" front and ~13.5" rear from the pics, but would like to confirm.
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Old 11-01-2006, 03:10 PM   #149
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Before I got my Scooby921 spacer, I actually went to OSH and got a packet of 6-hardened washers for 99-cents (still have them at home in my parts bin). But after seeing his spacer, I thought that was a much cleaner and elegant solution.
yah. i pmed him about availability and pricing
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Old 11-01-2006, 08:05 PM   #150
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I got some as well. Great guy.
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