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Old 01-25-2007, 11:39 PM   #26
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that's quite a complete story.
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Old 01-25-2007, 11:41 PM   #27
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that was an excellent write up, and I really enjoyed reading through it!

your hard work certainly paid off, awesome just awesome. cant wait to see a video of the car at a track event or just driving around.
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Old 01-25-2007, 11:49 PM   #28
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great write up!!!! I can't wait to see some videos of the car in action, get some good flybys

+1 for the gt4094, hell why stop there, go for a 42r
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Old 01-25-2007, 11:53 PM   #29
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beautiful and unique, cant beat
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Old 01-25-2007, 11:55 PM   #30
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Great job with the final results. 3 builds...damn had to be kinda discouraging.

but nice *sub*
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Old 01-26-2007, 12:04 AM   #31
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great write up!
600whp at only 23psi that is awesome
what would happen if you add some race gas? will you be able to run more boost then?
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Old 01-26-2007, 12:34 AM   #32
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Production kits???


J/K


Read the whole thing and it was amazing. I think I have someone that might want to talk to you about turboing his RS/L.
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Old 01-26-2007, 12:51 AM   #33
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Thank you for the detailed write up and eye candy.
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:00 AM   #34
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wow omg
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:05 AM   #35
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Production kits???
That is probably the most common question. Well that and how much does it cost. Making something like this into a production kit is possible, but difficult. The wiring is specific to the make of the car, and the plumbing depends extensively on which turbo and which wastegate type you are using.

If a customer were to drop off a car and want to pick it up complete, I would think the labor alone would be more then $10,000, not including the engine, the $3000 cost to sleve it, the head work, the turbo, piping, the $2000 custom Hydra, custom Pistons and Rods, Valve train parts, etc. My guess is something in the $20K+ range.

Then factor in the multiple builds, the destroyed blocks, head damage, etc. One thing is for sure.. This isn't cheap!

Remember our moto: We brake things so you don't have to.

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Old 01-26-2007, 01:07 AM   #36
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Actually I was just joking about production kits.

I am going to PM you tomorrow about something I am trying to setup but I am going to bed now. Damned EST.
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:16 AM   #37
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Actually I was just joking about production kits.
Yeah, that's what I said when I saw the $20k+ estimate. j/k.

Just imagine something like this in the Gobstopper...
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:40 AM   #38
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WOW, that is quite the write up... awesome work!
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Old 01-26-2007, 01:50 AM   #39
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Great post and the car looks great guys! Two thumbs up! Now put the GT4094 on that Garrett just released! It bolts up and has the compressor you guys need!

Fantastic Write up!

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Garrett's latest Dual Ball Bearing GT4094R Turbo assembly. T4 style inlet flange with 3.00" V-BAND exit. Large style compressor housing with 4.00" inlet and 2.50"outlet. Great upgrade path (direct fit) for a GT4088R application or any new high HP application that desires the compact package. Good for up 850HP with great top end power and best spoolup for the power range.

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Old 01-26-2007, 02:01 AM   #40
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I would like to shake your hand, where can I find you at events such as NOPI or HIN/HID...etc? lol
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Old 01-26-2007, 03:07 AM   #41
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thanks for some good nighttime reading material. I'm so jealous of this project.
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Old 01-26-2007, 03:34 AM   #42
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Amazing information! Congrat and good luck.
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Old 01-26-2007, 03:45 AM   #43
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Even the graphs look intimidating!
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Old 01-26-2007, 06:23 AM   #44
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Excellent write up Jeff! The most complete i've ever seen I consider myself lucky I get to see and hear both these H6 beauties cruising on my daily driven roads, and of course at PDXTuning!
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:06 AM   #45
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Nice Job guys!
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:15 AM   #46
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very nice work and congrat. i like to see that beast in the track
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:37 AM   #47
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This is the ultimate build. You have a 10 sec car on pump gas. What a monster. You just leaped the suby community foward. Great job!
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Old 01-26-2007, 09:12 AM   #48
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Excellent write up...


Heres another idea for headers, I run these up behind the driveshaft and dump the exhaust over the gearbox and down the other side...


What can I say, I'm into it

I might add, you guys have it so much easier - with the brake booster and clutch master on the LHS.

Mine has a modified closed deck EZ30 block, time will tell how it compares to a sleeved block. Did you consider the whole "boxer bore shift" issue? I would have thought that the sleeves alone would walk around on the head gaskets.

I considered the big ends for a while.. I ended up using std(size) STI big end bearings, as they have a wider cross section than the H6 bearings = more surface area to carry load, and can still be held captive with a custom rod (I used bespoke ARGO rods).

Just thought I'd let you know that the Aussies are onto it as well.

yes, it's a back yard shed, and no, it's not a show car, it's built to race.

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Old 01-26-2007, 09:53 AM   #49
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go baby go!

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Old 01-26-2007, 10:40 AM   #50
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best damn thread ever!!!

a few questions:

1. why not stroke the motor from the beginning? 3.4L or 3.5L?

2. what is the future of the car? any race gas tunes? track/strip events?

3. i read in jeff's previous write-up that there were stalling issues. sometimes when the car is in cruise and you release the gas pedal, the car drops in RPMs and stalls. i've had this happen to my own car and i usually just jumpstart it. i think my issue is from the 272 cams. just wondering if this still happens on your H6 project.

other than that...thanks for pushing the envelope and breaking new ground. my future suby project is going to be very similar to this.
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